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970 Evo 250 GB not reaching full speeds

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5 minutes ago, Bouzoo said:

I am seeing people getting 3.500/2.500 on crystaldisk mar and it is rated as write 2.500 on their website. As I said, not for me, just want to give full performance that a friend paid for. I know it's not dealbraking, I use 850 Evo and am happy with it. This is even with this so much, much faster.

No, their website rates it at 3,400/1,500. It says up to the other speed in their infograph, however that's with a different CPU, and it can vary based on firmware etc.

It also is likely a higher capacity drive.

https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/memory-storage/solid-state-drives/ssd-970-evo-nvme-m-2-250gb-mz-v7e250bw/

As you can see, the 1TB model is rated at the speeds you've stated.

https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/memory-storage/solid-state-drives/ssd-970-evo-nvme-m-2-1tb-mz-v7e1t0bw/

Just built a new PC for a friend, and can't get it to work at max speeds. The hardware shouldn't be a problem, but the rest is:

MSI B450 Gaming Plus AC (NVMe slot is PCIe x4 so that is not the problem)

16 GB Corsair Vengeance 3000 MHz

Corsair Vengeance 550W

Ryzen 2600

 

Have the NVMe driver and Samsung Magician installed, latest firmware. Getting much lower results with CrystalDiskMark x64 than I should. Nothing was happening in the background, this is a completely fresh install of Windows x64 Education. Basically the same speeds on 1 and 32 GiB tests:

 

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I'm getting the same performance, more or less:

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I wouldn't worry about it. This is a budget-ish NVMe drive, so I'm not expecting it to perform the same as say the 950 Pro I had in my last machine. It still boots up and launches apps plenty quickly. And if anything, an SSD's charm is more about its quickness, not its throughput, since most things on the C:\ that get moved off of it are tiny.

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It's rated at 3,400 and 1,500. What am I missing?

Moreover, you're unlikely to notice the difference of more speed.

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2 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

I'm getting the same performance, more or less:

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I've seen people with much better performances, but is there an upside to 500GB+ for this particular model? I do remember there are performance increases for other SSDs when you get to higher storage capacity.

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7 minutes ago, dizmo said:

It's rated at 3,400 and 1,500. What am I missing?

Moreover, you're unlikely to notice the difference of more speed.

I am seeing people getting 3.500/2.500 on crystaldisk mar and it is rated as write 2.500 on their website. As I said, not for me, just want to give full performance that a friend paid for. I know it's not dealbraking, I use 850 Evo and am happy with it. This is even with this so much, much faster.

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5 minutes ago, Bouzoo said:

I am seeing people getting 3.500/2.500 on crystaldisk mar and it is rated as write 2.500 on their website. As I said, not for me, just want to give full performance that a friend paid for. I know it's not dealbraking, I use 850 Evo and am happy with it. This is even with this so much, much faster.

No, their website rates it at 3,400/1,500. It says up to the other speed in their infograph, however that's with a different CPU, and it can vary based on firmware etc.

It also is likely a higher capacity drive.

https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/memory-storage/solid-state-drives/ssd-970-evo-nvme-m-2-250gb-mz-v7e250bw/

As you can see, the 1TB model is rated at the speeds you've stated.

https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/memory-storage/solid-state-drives/ssd-970-evo-nvme-m-2-1tb-mz-v7e1t0bw/

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5 minutes ago, dizmo said:

No, their website rates it at 3,400/1,500. It says up to the other speed in their infograph, however that's with a different CPU, and it can vary based on firmware etc.

It also is likely a higher capacity drive.

https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/memory-storage/solid-state-drives/ssd-970-evo-nvme-m-2-250gb-mz-v7e250bw/

As you can see, the 1TB model is rated at the speeds you've stated.

https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/memory-storage/solid-state-drives/ssd-970-evo-nvme-m-2-1tb-mz-v7e1t0bw/

I see, it's the old marketing trick.

https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/product/consumer/970evo/

Look at bottom. 

Good to know then, at least it's working as intended. ?

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4 minutes ago, Bouzoo said:

I see, it's the old marketing trick.

https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/product/consumer/970evo/

Look at bottom. 

Good to know then, at least it's working as intended. ?

Kind of. They do pretty clearly label it as up to, and max. At a point it's up to the consumer to research and know what they're buying.

Even in the spec section it's clearly labeled what drives get what speeds; a lot better than most other companies.

 

Do you actually notice the faster load times with regular apps?

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2 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Do you actually notice the faster load times with regular apps?

From my 950 Evo you mean? I do yeah. But then again, that is probaly due to my fragmented windows and this being a fresh install. 

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5 minutes ago, Bouzoo said:

From my 950 Evo you mean? I do yeah. But then again, that is probaly due to my fragmented windows and this being a fresh install. 

More so from a SATA drive. I've been contemplating a 500GB NVME for my next build's OS drive, but I'm not sure if it'd be worth it over a cheaper SATA one.

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3 hours ago, dizmo said:

More so from a SATA drive. I've been contemplating a 500GB NVME for my next build's OS drive, but I'm not sure if it'd be worth it over a cheaper SATA one.

All things considered, i'd say it's worth it. If not for anything, then for those huge updates for literally everything. I mean when you dl and have to install stuff. Mind you, those very rare moments, but I'd rather have the option. 

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