search warrant [UPDATE] Apple served with warrant to unlock the Texas shooter’s iPhone SE

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updated the OP

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4 hours ago, Zando Bob said:

I’m sure @Drak3 will create his own currency.

Maybe he's working for the Federal Reserve

[Ryujin2003]

1 hour ago, hey_yo_ said:

updated the OP

The update is pretty cool.

 

But you're feeding into the tin foil conspiracy. /s

 

Number 14 isn't that creepy. If you want something secure, why trust it to a company like that? I don't consider anything I have stored on Google Drive to be protected by anything more than my password.

 

 

[captain_to_fire]

2 minutes ago, Ryujin2003 said:

The update is pretty cool.

 

But you're feeding into the tin foil conspiracy. /s

 

Number 14 isn't that creepy. If you want something secure, why trust it to a company like that? I don't consider anything I have stored on Google Drive to be protected by anything more than my password.

 

 

I’m aware that Apple has a master password that can unlock any iCloud account. But it seems that number 14 is asking a bit much. 

[Ryujin2003]

Just now, hey_yo_ said:

I’m aware that Apple has a master password that can unlock any iCloud account. But it seems that number 14 is asking a bit much. 

I would assume that information would be limited to the specific accounts, not Apples master keys.

 

I mean, in context it makes sense. Get the stuff, and I need to be able to decrypt it as well. I don't think Apple is going to copy-paste the content from the account, but problem l probably provide the whole entire package and file structure of the iCloud account.

[dalekphalm]

13 hours ago, Ryujin2003 said:

Not sure if the organs thing was a troll or you being serious. But seeing how you spelled "realize", I'll take it as you being serious.....

Just pointing out that "realise" is a perfectly legitimate way to spell "realize". Both are accepted as correct. Though "realize" is heavily favoured in North America. "Realise" is the preferred spelling outside of North America.

[Ryujin2003]

5 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

Just pointing out that "realise" is a perfectly legitimate way to spell "realize". Both are accepted as correct. Though "realize" is heavily favoured in North America. "Realise" is the preferred spelling outside of North America.

Thank you; however, I was aware of that beforehand. His organ comment was irrelevant, so I was trying to make a point by responding with a more obviously irrelevant remark.

[dalekphalm]

Just now, Ryujin2003 said:

Thank you; however, I was aware of that beforehand. His organ comment was irrelevant, so I was trying to make a point by responding with a more obviously irrelevant remark.

I mean, his entire post was off the rocker... so there's that.

[TVwazhere]

30 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

Just pointing out that "realise" is a perfectly legitimate way to spell "realize". Both are accepted as correct. Though "realize" is heavily favoured in North America. "Realise" is the preferred spelling outside of North America.

English man...

 

Gray vs Grey

Color vs Colour

etc

[dalekphalm]

12 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

English man...

 

Gray vs Grey

Color vs Colour

etc

Yep it's a clusterfuck.

 

A lot of it is due to America creating their own dialect, for various historical reasons.

 

Canada gets caught in the middle, since our version of English closely follows the mother-tongue British English, but because we're next door neighbours with America, some American words and spellings were adopted.

[Ryujin2003]

2 hours ago, dalekphalm said:

Yep it's a clusterfuck.

 

A lot of it is due to America creating their own dialect, for various historical reasons.

 

Canada gets caught in the middle, since our version of English closely follows the mother-tongue British English, but because we're next door neighbours with America, some American words and spellings were adopted.

I had an argument with my English and Scottish friends about the proper way to pronounce vitamin. Vittamin (American) vs vite-amin (English). The Brits said it's vitt, because it's an I not a y.  Like tyre.. I couldn't tell you the Highlander pronunciation in that one... Gibberish.

[dalekphalm]

1 minute ago, Ryujin2003 said:

I had an argument with my English and Scottish friends about the proper way to pronounce vitamin. Vittamin (American) vs vite-amin (English). The Brits said it's vitt, because it's an I not a y.  Like tyre.. I couldn't tell you the Highlander pronunciation in that one... Gibberish.

The only people I've heard pronounce Vitamin as "Vitt-ah-min" are British folks. We Canadians, along with every American I've heard, says "Vytah-min".

[mr moose]

6 minutes ago, Ryujin2003 said:

I had an argument with my English and Scottish friends about the proper way to pronounce vitamin. Vittamin (American) vs vite-amin (English). The Brits said it's vitt, because it's an I not a y.  Like tyre.. I couldn't tell you the Highlander pronunciation in that one... Gibberish.

 

2 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

The only people I've heard pronounce Vitamin as "Vitt-ah-min" are British folks. We Canadians, along with every American I've heard, says "Vytah-min".

 

The English language, one of the most concretely debated subjects around and yet probably one of the most changing and adaptive of all evolutionary human traits.    

[DrMacintosh]

Apple took the government to court once before. The question is if they will do it again. 

 

I think they will. 

[79wjd]

25 minutes ago, Ryujin2003 said:

I had an argument with my English and Scottish friends about the proper way to pronounce vitamin. Vittamin (American) vs vite-amin (English). The Brits said it's vitt, because it's an I not a y.  Like tyre.. I couldn't tell you the Highlander pronunciation in that one... Gibberish.

Next someone's going to say aluminum is aluminium....

[Ryujin2003]

11 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Apple took the government to court once before. The question is if they will do it again. 

 

I think they will. 

I get the feeling this is one of those "check in the box' things...

[DrMacintosh]

36 minutes ago, Ryujin2003 said:

I had an argument with my English and Scottish friends about the proper way to pronounce vitamin.

If I'm not mistaken Western English (and specifically West coast English) is the most phonetically accurate form of English. And it is definitely not "Vitt-ah-min" 

[mr moose]

19 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

If I'm not mistaken Western English (and specifically West coast English) is the most phonetically accurate form of English. And it is definitely not "Vitt-ah-min" 

It's the most closely related to earlier versions of English.  But as a language that evolves all the time, all this means is that when the pilgrims went to America, some of them stopped evolving.

[DrMacintosh]

3 hours ago, mr moose said:

But as a language that evolves all the time, all this means is that when the pilgrims went to America, some of them stopped evolving.

It is argued that English had become extremely corrupted and the idea that people took English in its earlier, "more pure" form preserved it from the English English perversion of the Language. 

[mr moose]

3 hours ago, DrMacintosh said:

It is argued that English had become extremely corrupted and the idea that people took English in its earlier, "more pure" form preserved it from the English English perversion of the Language. 

Who is arguing that? How do you  preserve something that evolves and changes naturally?  At which point do you decide that is in the form in which it should be preserved?  

 

English has never been in a pure form, it has always constantly changed,  new words are added, older words are forgotten and some words changed meaning and pronunciation.   There has never been a single point in history where English has been considered "more pure".   When the English went to America, they simply ended up in a situation where their language evolved less than everywhere else.  Hence why Canadian, Australian, Kiwi, etc all took on their own accents and why English as spoken in the UK has evolved into what it is today. 

 

https://www.linguisticsociety.org/content/english-changing

 

[Colonel_Gerdauf]

Even if Apple was legally forced to build for the FBI a backdoor, how could they even do so? The data on the iPhones (as well as most other Apple devices) are client-side encrypted. That means that the data in the server is practically useless in respect to MITM or data breaches. Also, once the data is encrypted, there is no way to mass-decrypt them via software update; the data becomes useless at that point. The file can only be interpreted ("decrypted") on-the-fly while such files are in use.

[Carlos Andrade]

Just cut off the shooters finger and put it on the fingerprint sensor. The guy is already dead, so . . . 

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8 hours ago, Carlos Andrade said:

Just cut off the shooters finger and put it on the fingerprint sensor. The guy is already dead, so . . . 

If touch ID hasn't been used for 48 hours, the user is forced to use a PIN/passcode to get into the phone.  The authorities know that full well and Apple even got in touch with the FBI within 48 hours of the shooting, probably to remind them about that. 

I wouldn't be surprised if the feds didn't unlock the phone on purpose so that they could have another attempt at forcing Apple to create a backdoor which they could then use on all other phones that they currently can't get in to. 
 

[Yoinkerman]

What if I told you it's not about if the phone has any usable information on it at all?

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17 minutes ago, Yoinkerman said:

What if I told you it's not about if the phone has any usable information on it at all?

Of course it isn't.  This was just a crazy idiot, not someone who meticulously planned his attack with the help of a group of like-minded people.  This phone doesn't have any useful info on it, and the feds know that.

Everyone knew that the San Bernadino phone was a work phone and hence almost certainly would have no personal info on it either.