First Build, on a budget, thoughts?

[Aki---]

This is my first real pc build, I want to keep it cheap but still have good specs to run games like Rainbow Six Siege. If you could give me any feedback or how to make it cheaper without comprising performance too much, that would be greatly appreciated.  

Also, is the cooler necessary for the hardware I have currently got?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Aki---/saved/#view=xn2m8d

[WereCat]

Looks good.

The cooler is not necessary if you won't OC. If you go for it anyway make sure it comes with AM4 mounting bracket.

[Jurrunio]

direct link pls

 

cooler is not necessary

[Aki---]

Just now, WereCat said:

Looks good.

Ok thank you, I also forgot to mention that I have a HDD from my old computer that I will be using.

[Aki---]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

direct link pls

 

cooler is not necessary

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Aki---/saved/#view=xn2m8d

[WereCat]

Just now, Aki--- said:

Ok thank you, I also forgot to mention that I have a HDD from my old computer that I will be using.

As long as its SATA HDD it will be fine, nice build.

 

BTW

I edited my previous post regarding cooler

[Phentos]

The cooler isn't necessary unless you want to do heavy overclocks on the 1200.

 

Otherwise the build looks great. The B350 Strix will last you for years with nice overclocking potential. 

[Aki---]

2 minutes ago, WereCat said:

Looks good.

The cooler is not necessary if you won't OC. If you go for it anyway make sure it comes with AM4 mounting bracket.

Ok, overclocking definitely won't be a priority as I've never done it before so if I decide to OC later, I'll buy it then.

[Aki---]

3 minutes ago, Phentos said:

The cooler isn't necessary unless you want to do heavy overclocks on the 1200.

 

Otherwise the build looks great. The B350 Strix will last you for years with nice overclocking potential. 

Ok, I'm glad as I don't particularly want to be upgrading to new, expensive hardware too much in the near future. 

[Senzelian]

I would pick a cheaper graphics card and get a better CPU in return.
We're still talking about the same GPU, so you won't lose any performance:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($155.49 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($85.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - FORTIS 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($142.87 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Storage: Kingston - A400 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($89.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB AMP! Edition Video Card  ($269.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($54.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $859.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-04 05:21 EDT-0400

 

And technically there is still enough of your budget left to get the CPU cooler you wanted!

[Jurrunio]

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ybnsD8
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ybnsD8/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($109.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($85.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($130.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($98.94 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: PNY - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Video Card  ($274.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($54.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $810.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-04 05:19 EDT-0400

 

High frequency RAM: preferred with Ryzen. Also cheaper but it is blue.

Faster SSD for extra $10. Worth buying imo.

Cheaper graphics card with similar performance but with a clean black shroud

750W PSU is a silly choice in many situations, but I found this one cheaper than many 500W PSUs that arent crap after rebate.

9 minutes ago, Aki--- said:

Ok, overclocking definitely won't be a priority as I've never done it before so if I decide to OC later, I'll buy it then.

The stock cooler can handle light overclocking. Just make sure you monitor the temps while doing so.

If you are buying an air cooler for higher overclocking at silence then I suggest the meaty ones with huge heatsinks. You can stick with the same cooler even after multiple upgrades because they are extremely durable. The only thing that can stop working is the fan, which can be replaced by any other one of the same size.

[Aki---]

5 minutes ago, Senzelian said:

I would pick a cheaper graphics card and get a better CPU in return.
We're still talking about the same GPU, so you won't lose any performance:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($155.49 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($85.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - FORTIS 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($142.87 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Storage: Kingston - A400 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($89.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB AMP! Edition Video Card  ($269.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($54.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $859.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-04 05:21 EDT-0400

 

And technically there is still enough of your budget left to get the CPU cooler you wanted!

Thank you for showing me this though why is it cheaper?? It in fact has a slightly higher core clock and is slightly smaller. 

[Senzelian]

Just now, Aki--- said:

Thank you for showing me this though why is it cheaper?? It in fact has a slightly higher core clock and is slightly smaller. 

The Ryzen 1400 has hyperthreading (or SMT as AMD calls it) and a higher base frequency as the 1200.

The whole build is cheaper, because I picked a different graphics card.

[Aki---]

3 minutes ago, Senzelian said:

The Ryzen 1400 has hyperthreading (or SMT as AMD calls it) and a higher base frequency as the 1200.

The whole build is cheaper, because I picked a different graphics card.

Sorry, I was referring to why the graphics card was cheaper?

[Senzelian]

Just now, Aki--- said:

Sorry, I was referring to why the graphics card was cheaper?

Oh, I thought you meant the whole build.

Because with MSI you're paying for the much larger cooler and because its MSI.

But with a 1060 you don't need such a large cooler, since the GPU is very power efficient.

[Aki---]

11 minutes ago, Senzelian said:

Oh, I thought you meant the whole build.

Because with MSI you're paying for the much larger cooler and because its MSI.

But with a 1060 you don't need such a large cooler, since the GPU is very power efficient.

Ok thought it would be something like that.

[Ashley MLP Fangirl]

go with a 1050 or 1050ti. much better value, depending on where you live.

 

it'll be fine: https://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/requirements/tom-clancys-rainbow-six-siege-beta/12864

[Aki---]

42 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ybnsD8
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ybnsD8/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($109.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($85.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($130.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($98.94 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: PNY - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Video Card  ($274.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($54.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $810.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-04 05:19 EDT-0400

 

High frequency RAM: preferred with Ryzen. Also cheaper but it is blue.

Faster SSD for extra $10. Worth buying imo.

Cheaper graphics card with similar performance but with a clean black shroud

750W PSU is a silly choice in many situations, but I found this one cheaper than many 500W PSUs that arent crap after rebate.

The stock cooler can handle light overclocking. Just make sure you monitor the temps while doing so.

If you are buying an air cooler for higher overclocking at silence then I suggest the meaty ones with huge heatsinks. You can stick with the same cooler even after multiple upgrades because they are extremely durable. The only thing that can stop working is the fan, which can be replaced by any other one of the same size.

The ram looks like a good choice, but because I'm in Australia, the ssd is actually 40 dollars more... Do you think it'll still be worth it?

Also, the 750w power supply is 5 dollars more expensive than the 550w here and I heard if you're not optimizing the power, you are wasting because you are still pulling the same amount of power from the wall. Thoughts?

EDIT: it turns out the 750W is $25 more expensive, there was just a rebate card offer on new egg.

[Aki---]

4 minutes ago, firelighter487 said:

go with a 1050 or 1050ti. much better value, depending on where you live.

 

it'll be fine: https://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/requirements/tom-clancys-rainbow-six-siege-beta/12864

All of the 1050 and 1050 tis seem to be about half price, though the core clock seems to be around 1.3-1/4 GHz and between 2-4Gb of Memory. How will it perform compared to the 1060?

[Aki---]

Another, question, seems like for the power supply, there are two options, a semi-modular and a non-modular which is $10 cheaper. Is it worth the $10 for better cable management as I've never seen a modular power supply let alone used one.

[Jurrunio]

12 minutes ago, Aki--- said:

I'm in Australia

That should come first. I supposed you live in the US because you used PCPP for US

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/WgsHCy
Price breakdown by merchant: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/WgsHCy/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($138.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($126.50 @ Newegg Australia) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($185.90 @ Newegg Australia) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($125.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Video Card: GALAX - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB OC Video Card  ($385.00 @ Mwave Australia) 
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($85.00 @ Mwave Australia) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($95.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Total: $1140.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-04 21:14 AEDT+1100

 

Just $1.6 cheaper for a larger and faster SSD and RAM.

3 minutes ago, Aki--- said:

Another, question, seems like for the power supply, there are two options, a semi-modular and a non-modular which is $10 cheaper. Is it worth the $10 for better cable management as I've never seen a modular power supply let alone used one.

Of course it's worth it. With a modular PSU the cables can be detached from the PSU so you dont have that mess of unused cable hanging around. In a semi modular PSU the main 24 pin and CPU 4 or 8pin are not modular, but others are. Full modular PSU have every cable being modular.

[Aki---]

11 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

That should come first. I supposed you live in the US because you used PCPP for US

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/WgsHCy
Price breakdown by merchant: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/WgsHCy/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($138.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($126.50 @ Newegg Australia) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($185.90 @ Newegg Australia) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($125.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Video Card: GALAX - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB OC Video Card  ($385.00 @ Mwave Australia) 
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($85.00 @ Mwave Australia) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($95.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Total: $1140.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-04 21:14 AEDT+1100

 

Just $1.6 cheaper for a larger and faster SSD and RAM.

Of course it's worth it. With a modular PSU the cables can be detached from the PSU so you dont have that mess of unused cable hanging around. In a semi modular PSU the main 24 pin and CPU 4 or 8pin are not modular, but others are. Full modular PSU have every cable being modular.

Hmm, yeah it started as Aus, now it's US... time to change it back.

[Aki---]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/pbL7YJ/evga-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-gaming-video-card-06g-p4-6161-kr

Or

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/tJyxFT/evga-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-sc-gaming-video-card-06g-p4-6163-kr

 

Is paying the extra worth the extra core clock?

[Aki---]

Really sorry for the repost but I posted the US instead of AU version of PC Part Picker last time so it completely messed up everything. 

 

 

This is my first real PC build, I want to keep it cheap but still have good specs to run games like Rainbow Six Siege. If you could give me any feedback or how to make it cheaper without comprising performance too much, that would be greatly appreciated.  

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/Aki---/saved/#view=xn2m8d

 

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