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1 hour ago, Aki--- said:

All of the 1050 and 1050 tis seem to be about half price, though the core clock seems to be around 1.3-1/4 GHz and between 2-4Gb of Memory. How will it perform compared to the 1060?

i don't know the performance compared to the 1060. i have a 1050, and all i know that even it performs fine for me.

 

however i only play games like Overwatch, and that is less demanding than Rainbow Six

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Couple more specifics: REMINDER: I am looking to make this cheap as possible while comprising performance as little as possible.

Should I buy a non-modular PSU to save $25 AUD? And is 450W enough? or upgrade to 650W for 7-9 dollars?

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/k72kcf/corsair-power-supply-cp9020049ww Non-modular 450W $50

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/zsBrxr/thermaltake-litepower-650w-atx-power-supply-ps-ltp-0650npcnus-f Non-modular 650W $59

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/FQ648d/corsair-power-supply-cp9020101na Semi-modular 450W $75

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/FxDwrH/corsair-power-supply-cp9020051ww Semi-modular 650W $82

 

Should I buy a Athlon X4 950 https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/ZXgPxr/amd-athlon-x4-950-35ghz-quad-core-processor-ad950xagabbox instead of a Ryzen 3 https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/TX4NnQ/amd-ryzen-3-1300x-35ghz-quad-core-processor-yd1200bbaebox to save nearly $60 AUD?

 

Which SSD is the best out of these three as they have similar price points and transfer speeds:

https://www.umart.com.au/newsite/goods.php?id=37052 WD Green SSD 2.5 240G

https://www.umart.com.au/newsite/goods.php?id=35473 Transcend TS240GSSD220S 240GB 

https://www.umart.com.au/newsite/goods.php?id=39819 Kingston 240GB A400

 

What would be a good choice of GPU: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#X=0,54347&r=6144&sort=price&page=1

 

What would be a good choice of RAM:

 https://au.pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/#X=0,17729&s=402133,402400,402666,402800,403000,403200,403300,403333,403400,403466,403600,403666,403733,403866,404000,404133,404200,404266&Z=16384001,16384002,16384004

is it better to have 2x8GB or 1x16GB? And does the speed of the DDR4 really matter? for example DRR4-3000 v DDR4-2133?

 

 

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4 minutes ago, firelighter487 said:

i don't know the performance compared to the 1060. i have a 1050, and all i know that even it performs fine for me.

 

however i only play games like Overwatch, and that is less demanding than Rainbow Six

Ok, I might look at some reviews/comparisons on Youtube.

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1 hour ago, Aki--- said:

Couple more specifics: REMINDER: I am looking to make this cheap as possible while comprising performance as little as possible.

Should I buy a non-modular PSU to save $25 AUD? And is 450W enough? or upgrade to 650W for 7-9 dollars?

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/k72kcf/corsair-power-supply-cp9020049ww Non-modular 450W $50

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/zsBrxr/thermaltake-litepower-650w-atx-power-supply-ps-ltp-0650npcnus-f Non-modular 650W $59

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/FQ648d/corsair-power-supply-cp9020101na Semi-modular 450W $75

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/FxDwrH/corsair-power-supply-cp9020051ww Semi-modular 650W $82

 

Should I buy a Athlon X4 950 https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/ZXgPxr/amd-athlon-x4-950-35ghz-quad-core-processor-ad950xagabbox instead of a Ryzen 3 https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/TX4NnQ/amd-ryzen-3-1300x-35ghz-quad-core-processor-yd1200bbaebox to save nearly $60 AUD?

 

Which SSD is the best out of these three as they have similar price points and transfer speeds:

https://www.umart.com.au/newsite/goods.php?id=37052 WD Green SSD 2.5 240G

https://www.umart.com.au/newsite/goods.php?id=35473 Transcend TS240GSSD220S 240GB 

https://www.umart.com.au/newsite/goods.php?id=39819 Kingston 240GB A400

 

What would be a good choice of GPU: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#X=0,54347&r=6144&sort=price&page=1

 

What would be a good choice of RAM:

 https://au.pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/#X=0,17729&s=402133,402400,402666,402800,403000,403200,403300,403333,403400,403466,403600,403666,403733,403866,404000,404133,404200,404266&Z=16384001,16384002,16384004

is it better to have 2x8GB or 1x16GB? And does the speed of the DDR4 really matter? for example DRR4-3000 v DDR4-2133?

 

 

You can use a 450w PSU, but upgrading the system any further will need a new PSU. You can use a non modular PSU if you dont mind the cables being messy

 

Not the Athlon. It's the old Bulldozer on AM4. Terribly slow in comparison to Ryzen 3

 

Kingston A400 is out of stock in your site. Also Kingston got caught red handed for using worse parts in later produced SSDs than those used for the first released ones (of the same model) to manipulate benchmark results and reviews. I wouldnt recommend their products unless there's nothing else to choose from.

http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/WD-Green-240GB-vs-Transcend-SSD220-240GB/m204096vsm129705

Transcend one is much faster than the WD Green. I know this website isnt the best for comparisons, but since the benchmark results are so different, I wont doubt it.

 

If you can live with the louder fan noise, the EVGA Gaming model will do. Otherwise the PNY dual fan card is preferred.

 

Ryzen goes faster with dual channel memory and high frequency memory, so using multiple sticks of 3000MHz DDR4 is preferred.

 

 

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 hour ago, Aki--- said:

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/pbL7YJ/evga-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-gaming-video-card-06g-p4-6161-kr

Or

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/tJyxFT/evga-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-sc-gaming-video-card-06g-p4-6163-kr

 

Is paying the extra worth the extra core clock?

no. Manual overclocking will mask the difference. I have head of the SC model having better cooling though.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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2 hours ago, Aki--- said:

All of the 1050 and 1050 tis seem to be about half price, though the core clock seems to be around 1.3-1/4 GHz and between 2-4Gb of Memory. How will it perform compared to the 1060?

They differ in clock speed, memory and most importantly, cuda core count. The larger the better in general, but performance difference is noticeable. 1050 ti is 10-15% faster than a 1050, 1060 3gb is 50-70% faster than the 1050ti, 1060 6gb is 5-10% faster than the 1060 3gb.  The 1060 3gb poses the best value here since it's priced right at the middle of the 1050ti and 1060 6gb, but it's 3GB VRAM can pose limitations at times (not in Rainbow Six Seige though)

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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11 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

no. Manual overclocking will mask the difference. I have head of the SC model having better cooling though.

I am unsure on which graphics card to buy out of these:

(1 or 2 fans and 3 or 6GB)

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/pKX2FT/evga-geforce-gtx-1060-3gb-sc-gaming-video-card-03g-p4-6162

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/7bL7YJ/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1060-3gb-windforce-oc-video-card-gv-n1060wf2oc-3gd

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/tJyxFT/evga-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-sc-gaming-video-card-06g-p4-6163-kr

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/JVWrxr/msi-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-gaming-x-video-card-geforce-gtx-1060-gaming-x-6g

 

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Good build. The only thing I'd recommend is changing from the 6GB 1060 to the 3GB. It was a dilemma for me also, but you get an extremely minuscule FPS difference for almost $100 more.

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4 minutes ago, Aki--- said:

I am unsure on which graphics card to buy out of these:

(1 or 2 fans and 3 or 6GB)

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/pKX2FT/evga-geforce-gtx-1060-3gb-sc-gaming-video-card-03g-p4-6162

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/7bL7YJ/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1060-3gb-windforce-oc-video-card-gv-n1060wf2oc-3gd

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/tJyxFT/evga-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-sc-gaming-video-card-06g-p4-6163-kr

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/JVWrxr/msi-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-gaming-x-video-card-geforce-gtx-1060-gaming-x-6g

 

Do you play more demanding games like PUBG, Ghost Recon Wildlands etc?

 

If it's just Rainbow Six Siege and other esports games, 1060 3gb is already enough. In this case the Gigabyte card is superior because it has more efficient cooling thanks to 2 fans and a larger PCB size, which helps getting rid of the heat with less effort. Most importantly, it's the cheapest out of the 4 cards here. There is also an alternative that is much cheaper and has 2 fans.

 

If you do play these games then you will need the extra VRAM (at the cost of low dollar per frame). Out of those you picked, the EVGA card is the best because it's the cheapest and not loud (though noticeable). However, a dual fan card like this that's priced low is what I would recommend and what I would buy with my own money.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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57 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Do you play more demanding games like PUBG, Ghost Recon Wildlands etc?

 

If it's just Rainbow Six Siege and other esports games, 1060 3gb is already enough. In this case the Gigabyte card is superior because it has more efficient cooling thanks to 2 fans and a larger PCB size, which helps getting rid of the heat with less effort. Most importantly, it's the cheapest out of the 4 cards here. There is also an alternative that is much cheaper and has 2 fans.

 

If you do play these games then you will need the extra VRAM (at the cost of low dollar per frame). Out of those you picked, the EVGA card is the best because it's the cheapest and not loud (though noticeable). However, a dual fan card like this that's priced low is what I would recommend and what I would buy with my own money.

Ok, I was thinking of getting games like Ghost Recon though wasn't sure. Will the 6Gb end up lasting me longer in general? 

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Ok, I was thinking of getting games like Ghost Recon though wasn't sure. Will the 6Gb end up lasting me longer in general? 

yes.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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2 minutes ago, Aki--- said:

I ended up making two PCPP lists:

A cheaper version: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/Aki---/saved/#view=6fxsJx

and a more expensive version: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/Aki---/saved/#view=9YRvVn

Thoughts?

Dont go cheap on the PSU

Tier 3 or above at least. 450W is enough for your system, but going for more allows more upgrade in the future.

 

SSD is crucial for any modern machine. Dont cut cost on this.

 

Prices change every day, so I replaced a few parts to make it cheaper

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/3bD3LD
Price breakdown by merchant: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/3bD3LD/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($138.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($126.50 @ Newegg Australia) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($185.90 @ Newegg Australia) 
Storage: Transcend - 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($105.00 @ Umart) 
Video Card: GALAX - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB OC Video Card  ($385.00 @ Mwave Australia) 
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($85.00 @ Mwave Australia) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($95.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Total: $1120.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-05 12:38 AEDT+1100

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

Dont go cheap on the PSU

Tier 3 or above at least. 450W is enough for your system, but going for more allows more upgrade in the future.

 

SSD is crucial for any modern machine. Dont cut cost on this.

 

Prices change every day, so I replaced a few parts to make it cheaper

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/3bD3LD
Price breakdown by merchant: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/3bD3LD/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($138.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($126.50 @ Newegg Australia) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($185.90 @ Newegg Australia) 
Storage: Transcend - 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($105.00 @ Umart) 
Video Card: GALAX - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB OC Video Card  ($385.00 @ Mwave Australia) 
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($85.00 @ Mwave Australia) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($95.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Total: $1120.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-05 12:38 AEDT+1100

What are your thoughts on buying second hand such as on eBay? Because I had a quick look and I have already spotted some deals.

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What are your thoughts on buying second hand such as on eBay? Because I had a quick look and I have already spotted some deals.

I built my PC with used parts entirely so I'm good with it. Buying used does have its risks, so it all depends on being careful.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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9 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

I built my PC with used parts entirely so I'm good with it. Buying used does have its risks, so it all depends on being careful.

Yep, eBay does have a pretty good buyer protection policy too. 

 

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1 minute ago, Aki--- said:

Yep, eBay does have a pretty good buyer protection policy too. 

 

Also avoiding sketchy stuff, like $50 for a GTX 1080.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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28 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Also avoiding sketchy stuff, like $50 for a GTX 1080.

Yep just like what I just saw: 3000Mhz 2x8GB DDR4 for $40 

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7 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Dont go cheap on the PSU

Tier 3 or above at least. 450W is enough for your system, but going for more allows more upgrade in the future.

 

SSD is crucial for any modern machine. Dont cut cost on this.

 

Prices change every day, so I replaced a few parts to make it cheaper

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/3bD3LD
Price breakdown by merchant: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/3bD3LD/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($138.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($126.50 @ Newegg Australia) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($185.90 @ Newegg Australia) 
Storage: Transcend - 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($105.00 @ Umart) 
Video Card: GALAX - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB OC Video Card  ($385.00 @ Mwave Australia) 
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($85.00 @ Mwave Australia) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($95.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Total: $1120.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-05 12:38 AEDT+1100

If I get a PC something like this or what I had, at this price point, how long do you think it will be until I can't run most games at high/medium quality, therefore needing to upgrade?

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17 minutes ago, Aki--- said:

If I get a PC something like this or what I had, at this price point, how long do you think it will be until I can't run most games at high/medium quality, therefore needing to upgrade?

screen resolution and refresh rate?

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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17 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

screen resolution and refresh rate?

The monitor I'm running now is 1680 x 1050 60Hz

Though I might get a newer monitor, I'll probably run something like 1080p at 60Hz or 120Hz, nothing crazy

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1 minute ago, Aki--- said:

The monitor I'm running now is 1680 x 1050 60Hz

Though I might get a newer monitor, I'll probably run something like 1080p at 60Hz or 120Hz, nothing crazy

1080p 60Hz should last for 2-3 years at high settings.

 

1080p 120Hz... 2-3 at low settings, 1 year at medium

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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26 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

1080p 60Hz should last for 2-3 years at high settings.

 

1080p 120Hz... 2-3 at low settings, 1 year at medium

Ok, so I should be I able to get 4-5 at low to medium settings right? (1080p 60Hz)

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Ok, so I should be I able to get 4-5 at low to medium settings right? (1080p 60Hz)

Maybe. The GTX 760 is 4 years old and barely holding up.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Maybe. The GTX 760 is 4 years old and barely holding up.

Hmm okay thanks.

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