General Intel HEDT Xeon/i7 Discussion

[NoxiousOdor]

My current best with dual x5690's 

 

I will be able to do better once I finish my cooling upgrade and will then be able to overclock higher

 

 

[Intelfreak]

17 minutes ago, wildthing said:

il will report back tomorrow for sure

 

not sure how big of a factor it is but i only have a 4pin cpu power going to the motherboard and on full load it pulls about 165W and that cable is getting hot.

so tomorrow new psu incoming and i will try to beat that score.

 

i want at least to get above 1100 (i think that would be impressive for my chip

Yeah only 4 pin in the 8 pin is not optimal at all for overclock. Deffently get a 8 pin plugged in before you go any furher and melt wires or damages other things.

 

But yeah 1100+ in CB R15 is great for at X58 cpu.

[wildgg]

28 minutes ago, Intelfreak said:

Yeah only 4 pin in the 8 pin is not optimal at all for overclock. Deffently get a 8 pin plugged in before you go any furher and melt wires or damages other things.

 

But yeah 1100+ in CB R15 is great for at X58 cpu.

agree, i will wait for the new psu to come in

i tried 4.6 real quick tho haha

 

also a question how much will uping the uncore clock help in general? 

[Intelfreak]

On ‎26‎-‎06‎-‎2018 at 8:47 PM, wildthing said:

agree, i will wait for the new psu to come in

i tried 4.6 real quick tho haha

 

also a question how much will uping the uncore clock help in general? 

You are lossing around 50 CB points by only running uncore at 2600 MHz. Get it up to around 3600 MHz or more if possible. That shut increase your score, but that might need a higher vcore to be stable as well as higher voltage to Uncore.

 

My CPU at only 4.42 GHz with uncore at 3700 MHz score 1027 in CB. more at lower core clock.

[bimmerman]

I run the uncore as high as possible. I've seen better gains there than from outright frequency, and it makes the computer feel subjectively snappier. I've seen no difference from ram OC (specifically in cinebench) between 2000 and 1600 MHz, but I did notice a difference with uncore speed.

 

We're talking a couple percent improvement at most though.

[Intelfreak]

3 minutes ago, bimmerman said:

I run the uncore as high as possible. I've seen better gains there than from outright frequency, and it makes the computer feel subjectively snappier. I've seen no difference from ram OC (specifically in cinebench) between 2000 and 1600 MHz, but I did notice a difference with uncore speed.

 

We're talking a couple percent improvement at most though.

Yes i can only agreed to that. Faster uncore speed does not only help in benchmark but also in every day use as well in games.

[wildgg]

53 minutes ago, bimmerman said:

I run the uncore as high as possible. I've seen better gains there than from outright frequency, and it makes the computer feel subjectively snappier. I've seen no difference from ram OC (specifically in cinebench) between 2000 and 1600 MHz, but I did notice a difference with uncore speed.

 

We're talking a couple percent improvement at most though.

 

48 minutes ago, Intelfreak said:

Yes i can only agreed to that. Faster uncore speed does not only help in benchmark but also in every day use as well in games.

i dropped my freq to 4.4ghz and uncore to 3780, uncore at 4000 won't even boot no matter what core clock.

i think i'l leave uncore at 3780 and go up with core clock again

 

[wildgg]

This is the max R15 score i can get out of it.

this would be 9th place on hwbot if i actually went through the progress of uploading it.

i can't get the uncore any higher no matter the voltage.

 

rip the 1100 dream

 

[Intelfreak]

12 minutes ago, wildthing said:

This is the max R15 score i can get out of it.

this would be 9th place on hwbot if i actually went through the progress of uploading it.

i can't get the uncore any higher no matter the voltage.

 

rip the 1100 dream

 

You need higher core clock to beat me. The score i made is on air cooling al throw its done on cold night. But you are getting close. Throttle point for these CPU´s is 100 C. You need to push it. I dit it with mine to get there. I pushed it to just below throttle point and i got the score i have with 1103.

 

But you do need beefy air cooling to get there. I used Noctua NH-D14 with 3 noctua nf-f12 ippc-3000 pwm fans yeah thats 3000 RPM fans and thermal grizzly kryonaut cooling paste. A pretty beefy aircooling setup, but thats needed to push these old CPU´s to these kind of clock speeds.

[bimmerman]

I'm kinda tempted to shoot for the moon on mine. 1083 (@ 23x205) is the highest I could get while running within sane voltage limits.

 

The chip costs what, a week's worth of coffee?

[xxxdragon69420]

Hi. I want to know if the asus p6t se supports six core xeons, more specifically the w3670.

[andreweddy]

On 6/29/2018 at 9:27 PM, NaniTheF*ck said:

Hi. I want to know if the asus p6t se supports six core xeons, more specifically the w3670.

The only cpus that that mobo supports its core i7s and core i7 extreme editions such as i7 980x for example. some of these cpus are 6 core cpus but can be more expensive than the xeons. i run a x5670 and got that for 30 quid of ebay but a search just now the cheapest i saw was £80 for an i7 970 - 6c12t/ i7 980 - again 100 quid, this one has a listing tho for an extreme edition nearer 50 quid 

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-Core-i7-960-i7-970-i7-975-i7-980-i7-980X-i7-990X-LGA1366-CPU-Processor/173384435832?hash=item285e848878:m:m5wCt-ZZFaRD5cOxzOM4EUg

 

I7 965's seem to go for about 50 to 60 quid tho, but only 4c8t so might as well get a 920 and oc it

 

the extreme ones seem to be twice the price or more than the xeon ones unfortunately your motherboard does not support them

 

the asus official cpu support list for your motherboard is at this address

 

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P6T_SE/HelpDesk_CPU/

 

hopefully you can source a cheaper xeon from somewhere

 

hope this helps

 

[Ground]

29 minutes ago, andreweddy said:

The only cpus that that mobo supports its core i7s and core i7 extreme editions such as i7 980x for example. some of these cpus are 6 core cpus but can be more expensive than the xeons. i run a x5670 and got that for 30 quid of ebay but a search just now the cheapest i saw was £80 for an i7 970 - 6c12t/ i7 980 - again 100 quid, this one has a listing tho for an extreme edition nearer 50 quid 

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-Core-i7-960-i7-970-i7-975-i7-980-i7-980X-i7-990X-LGA1366-CPU-Processor/173384435832?hash=item285e848878:m:m5wCt-ZZFaRD5cOxzOM4EUg

 

I7 965's seem to go for about 50 to 60 quid tho, but only 4c8t so might as well get a 920 and oc it

 

the extreme ones seem to be twice the price or more than the xeon ones unfortunately your motherboard does not support them

 

the asus official cpu support list for your motherboard is at this address

 

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P6T_SE/HelpDesk_CPU/

 

hopefully you can source a cheaper xeon from somewhere

 

hope this helps

 

The Xeons are rarely if ever listed in the support documents. They weren't listed for any of my boards (Rampage II Extreme, Gigabyte x58a-oc, MSI x58 Pro-E, DFI Lanparty DK x58 T3eH6), and ran without troubles on all but the DFI board (given that DFI stopped producing consumer boards around that time and stopped updating their old boards I can see why it wasn't supported there). In general - if the 990X is supported, you can be 99% sure that the xeons work too. And the P6T SE specifically - I searched P6T SE x5650 and can only find success storys, so don't worry, it should work in the most recent bios.

 

My Thermalright Silver Arrow should arrive on Monday, that thing should be able to handle 4.75 or so on my E5649 for benching at least:D 

[andreweddy]

hopefully a xeon would work, they were listed for my mobo but its a workstation p6t pro ws so maybe thats why

 

hopefully it works well

 

[MaratM]

On 30.06.2018 at 1:27 AM, NaniTheF*ck said:

Hi. I want to know if the asus p6t se supports six core xeons, more specifically the w3670.

asus p6t se defenetly supports X56XX xeons with a latest bios, you might be lucky if the seller flashes it to the latest bios or you need an i7-920 to start the mobo and flash the bios. thankfully i7-920 cost around 5-10 USD

[wildgg]

On 29-6-2018 at 9:47 PM, Intelfreak said:

You need higher core clock to beat me. The score i made is on air cooling al throw its done on cold night. But you are getting close. Throttle point for these CPU´s is 100 C. You need to push it. I dit it with mine to get there. I pushed it to just below throttle point and i got the score i have with 1103.

 

But you do need beefy air cooling to get there. I used Noctua NH-D14 with 3 noctua nf-f12 ippc-3000 pwm fans yeah thats 3000 RPM fans and thermal grizzly kryonaut cooling paste. A pretty beefy aircooling setup, but thats needed to push these old CPU´s to these kind of clock speeds.

yea i know.. i need at least 4.7 to up that score but i can not boot on 4.7 even with uncore super low, in the score below is the absolute max i can do.

i used a noctua D14 with nf-12 fans max speed even tho it was a hot day i had the airco unit on and even then i was temperature limited.. hitting high 90's at times which resulted in bluescreens all day haha

 

i submited the score to hwbot and got 7th place which is cool with me since this is my first experience with X58 overclocking.

 

hwbot ranking: https://hwbot.org/benchmark/cinebench_-_r15/rankings?hardwareTypeId=processor_2104&cores=6#start=0#interval=20

 

 

 

[Ground]

You need higher clocks and faster RAM:

 

I think I'm running really close to the limit of this chip now though, doubt I can get much beyond this under air.

[kelvinhall05]

Just out of curiosity, what kind of overclocks have people gotten on a Sabertooth X58? I'm maxing out at 3.96GHz stable with an i7-950, but I'm not sure if my motherboard is limiting it, or the CPU.

 

Also, where on the "tier list" is my Sabertooth? It seems like a less desirable board, is it?

[Ground]

Sabertooth for x58 is a pretty solid board, its likely the CPU/cooling, 45nm ran much hotter (and needed more voltage) then 32nm. My Silver Arrow can both generations at 1.5V easily though.

 

Rampage III / Gigabyte x58a-oc/ud9/ud7 / MSI Big Bang are pretty much the top tier boards
Rampage II / Sabertooth / P6T WS/Deluxe / Gigabyte ud5/ud3*/Extreme / MSI GD65 Mid Tier stuff

P6T / MSI Pro / Platinum low tier stuff

 

Low tier here doesn't mean they are useless, just that they are fairly limited in some aspects. I'm not listing EVGA and the brands that only had a couple boards because I don't have experience with those. Gigabyte is pretty much always a solid choice, as is anything ROG branded. The 16 phase P6T variants are also a good option. 

[kelvinhall05]

6 hours ago, Ground said:

Sabertooth for x58 is a pretty solid board, its likely the CPU/cooling, 45nm ran much hotter (and needed more voltage) then 32nm. My Silver Arrow can both generations at 1.5V easily though.

 

Rampage III / Gigabyte x58a-oc/ud9/ud7 / MSI Big Bang are pretty much the top tier boards
Rampage II / Sabertooth / P6T WS/Deluxe / Gigabyte ud5/ud3*/Extreme / MSI GD65 Mid Tier stuff

P6T / MSI Pro / Platinum low tier stuff

 

Low tier here doesn't mean they are useless, just that they are fairly limited in some aspects. I'm not listing EVGA and the brands that only had a couple boards because I don't have experience with those. Gigabyte is pretty much always a solid choice, as is anything ROG branded. The 16 phase P6T variants are also a good option. 

Thanks. I was wondering because I found an MSI Big Bang locally with an i7-950 and 24GB of RAM for $500, which seemed quite expensive.

[Ground]

50 minutes ago, kelvinhall05 said:

Thanks. I was wondering because I found an MSI Big Bang locally with an i7-950 and 24GB of RAM for $500, which seemed quite expensive.

Yeah thats still really excessive. I would pay at max 150 for that board if I really wanted it... 

[NoxiousOdor]

8 hours ago, kelvinhall05 said:

Thanks. I was wondering because I found an MSI Big Bang locally with an i7-950 and 24GB of RAM for $500, which seemed quite expensive.

 

7 hours ago, Ground said:

Yeah thats still really excessive. I would pay at max 150 for that board if I really wanted it... 

Yeah that is way too much. I think I paid $120 or so for the formula 3 that I had

[bimmerman]

Yup, way too much.

 

I tried tinkering with my OC over the weekend to see how much above 215 BCLK the UD3R would handle. It...didn't, in the few minutes I was willing to spend tinkering.

 

Decided to leave well enough alone. It's happy at 21x215 and I'm very not motivated to mess with it anymore!

[asand1]

11 hours ago, Ground said:

 

@kelvinhall05

Pick up a 32nm 6 core Xeon for the low temp Overclocks. You should be able to get better single core while picking up another 2c/4t at the same time.

[Ground]

6 minutes ago, asand1 said:

Pick up a 32nm 6 core Xeon for the low temp Overclocks. You should be able to get better single core while picking up another 2c/4t at the same time.

You quoted the wrong person, I have dozens of Xeons sitting around here