How should I start getting into PC hardware

[CardinalHunter]

I wanna start getting into what determines the performance of cpu's, gpu's, ram's and hardware related stuff then will I start getting into the science  pls help I'm a newcomer to the PCworld

[m0k]

step 1: subscribe to LTT videos on youtube

[CardinalHunter]

1 minute ago, mok said:

step 1: subscribe to LTT videos on youtube

rly

 

[Guest]

Just now, mok said:

step 1: subscribe to LTT videos on youtube

step 2 look at benchmarks

[m0k]

1 minute ago, CardinalHunter said:

rly

 

actually even more important would be their TechQuickie channel since it actually explains in detail what each component is 

[Ashiella]

2 minutes ago, CardinalHunter said:

I wanna start getting into what determines the performance of cpu's, gpu's, ram's and hardware related stuff then will I start getting into the science  pls help I'm a newcomer to the PCworld

*Insert Hardware Porn* Serious note, The performance of a CPU is it's clock speed and cores, and IPC (Instructions per clock) Amd has shit IPC lots of cores and moderate to good clocks, but the single core performance, (IPC) drags all of those cores down... AMD zen should have a 40% IPC increase, YAY! And as for gpu's it's base on the stream processors or in nvidias case, CUDA cores, and still based on the IPC deal, you can look up how stream processors work and what not online. Ram is sorta like your flash drives or PCIE SSD, but with a direct link to your CPU, making it clock roughly in at 80 GB/s compared to 1.6-2.2 GB/s and ram still has the clock with IPC, and CAS latency. <3<3 have fun, just go to a class. Community is lazy.

[ChillyPepperGuy]

Just spending time in the community should help 

[Ashiella]

Step 3: Look at TechQuickie

[Mira Yurizaki]

8 minutes ago, CardinalHunter said:

I wanna start getting into what determines the performance of cpu's, gpu's, ram's and hardware related stuff then will I start getting into the science  pls help I'm a newcomer to the PCworld

There's a ton of high level stuff that are easy to digest, like more cores on a CPU usually means more performance. But to really understand what's going on (as AMD proved more "cores" doesn't really mean more performance automatically), you'll have to really get into the guts of hardware.

 

Wikipedia will at least get you a primer on the subjects, but there's a lot of topics you'll have to learn.

[THFourteen]

Theseday's it's easy, just watch youtube videos and read internet forums like this one.

 

TBH back in the day when I learned to build PCs the only way you learned is from making mistakes, or if you happened to have a friend to help you who had done it before.

[Trav_X]

14 minutes ago, Ashiella said:

*Insert Hardware Porn* Serious note, The performance of a CPU is it's clock speed and cores, and IPC (Instructions per clock) Amd has shit IPC lots of cores and moderate to good clocks, but the single core performance, (IPC) drags all of those cores down... AMD zen should have a 40% IPC increase, YAY! And as for gpu's it's base on the stream processors or in nvidias case, CUDA cores, and still based on the IPC deal, you can look up how stream processors work and what not online. Ram is sorta like your flash drives or PCIE SSD, but with a direct link to your CPU, making it clock roughly in at 80 GB/s compared to 1.6-2.2 GB/s and ram still has the clock with IPC, and CAS latency. <3<3 have fun, just go to a class. Community is lazy.

I think he may be looking for something still a little more simplistic

[Trav_X]

Best way is to watch TechQuickie videos, and search up stuff like "Parts of a PC and how they work" and "How to build a computer". Also, I'd watch Linus's own build guides/logs that showcase different components and why they are good for the purpose of the build.

[CardinalHunter]

1 minute ago, Trav_X said:

Best way is to watch TechQuickie videos, and search up stuff like "Parts of a PC and how they work" and "How to build a computer". Also, I'd watch Linus's own build guides/logs that showcase different components and why they are good for the purpose of the build.

kinda wanna learn about cuda cores. memory bandwidth, IPC cache, clockspeed,TFLOPS and stuff

[WkdPaul]

2 minutes ago, Trav_X said:

Best way is to watch TechQuickie videos, and search up stuff like "Parts of a PC and how they work" and "How to build a computer". Also, I'd watch Linus's own build guides/logs that showcase different components and why they are good for the purpose of the build.

I would add DigitalFoundry on YouTube for benchmarks of different CPUs and GPUs using current games since they often show each game's WHOLE benchmark!

[Trav_X]

1 minute ago, wkdpaul said:

I would add DigitalFoundry on YouTube for benchmarks of different CPUs and GPUs using current games since they often show each game's WHOLE benchmark!

I agree, if you're looking for component comparisons and performance than they are definitely a good channel to check out  

[CardinalHunter]

tyty guise I'll go check those channels out

[Trav_X]

9 minutes ago, CardinalHunter said:

kinda wanna learn about cuda cores. memory bandwidth, IPC cache, clockspeed,TFLOPS and stuff

Yeah, some of those go together. Your graphics card which processes the images you see on screen has a certain amount of 'power' in it. One graphics card, say, the NVIDIA GTX 1080, their flagship best card right now, has 2560 CUDA Cores. CUDA cores are the amount of physical cores on a Graphics card made by NVIDIA (AMD however, uses Stream Processors instead of CUDA cores). With 2560 CUDA cores running at a speed of ~1600 megahertz, the 1080 gets 9 teraflops of performance. Megahertz is a measure of a Graphics cards clock speed. A GTX 1070 however, has only 1920 CUDA cores and at a speed of ~1500 megahertz, only has 6.5 teraflops of performance. Teraflops of performance depends on the amount of cores/processors in a graphics card, and how fast it runs in terms of megahertz/gigahertz. Sorry, that may be a little hard to understand right now, but it'll make sense if you watch some more videos and stuff  

[Mira Yurizaki]

20 minutes ago, CardinalHunter said:

kinda wanna learn about cuda cores. memory bandwidth, IPC cache, clockspeed,TFLOPS and stuff

You can start by reading NVIDIA's whitepapers:

https://www.nvidia.com/content/PDF/kepler/NVIDIA-Kepler-GK110-Architecture-Whitepaper.pdf

http://international.download.nvidia.com/geforce-com/international/pdfs/GeForce_GTX_980_Whitepaper_FINAL.PDF

https://images.nvidia.com/content/pdf/tesla/whitepaper/pascal-architecture-whitepaper.pdf

 

Anandtech also has a good analysis on them:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5699/nvidia-geforce-gtx-680-review/

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8526/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-review

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10325/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-and-1070-founders-edition-review

[NinjaJc01]

1 hour ago, M.Yurizaki said:

There's a ton of high level stuff that are easy to digest, like more cores on a CPU usually means more performance. But to really understand what's going on (as AMD proved more "cores" doesn't really mean more performance automatically), you'll have to really get into the guts of hardware.

 

Wikipedia will at least get you a primer on the subjects, but there's a lot of topics you'll have to learn.

AMD proving something about cores? Can I just refer you to the legal action they faced over the definition of a core? Is that why cores is in quotation marks?

[Mira Yurizaki]

10 minutes ago, NinjaJc01 said:

AMD proving something about cores? Can I just refer you to the legal action they faced over the definition of a core? Is that why cores is in quotation marks?

Yes, that's why I put cores in quotes.

[kaiju_wars]

Start asking the community, as you have here.

Start getting into YouTubers.  Austin Evans does PC builds all the time, and has several videos up on how to build a PC.  Tech Source is another good one.  Linus Tech Tips is good, but TechQuicky is better when first getting into PC building/gaming.

Also, PCPartPicker is good.  But the most important thing, don't be afraid to ask questions.  You'll have some assholes who try to make smartass remarks or just be trolls.  But ask, we'll help.

[Hunter115]

Step 4. Read Forums about it 

[ybriK]

Reading wccftech comment sections is a great way. /s