Zotac Geforce GTX 1060 Poor Performance HELP

[MEC-777]

1 minute ago, WoodChuckers said:

The average fps is about 30. and i dont know the gpu usage during gameplay

What are the minimum and maximum fps you are seeing? 

 

Install MSI afterburner and try to take a screen shot of the GPU usage while running a game. If you need to know how to use afterburner, there are plenty of quick guide videos on youtube. Once you have the screen shot, post it up here. 

[MEC-777]

3 minutes ago, WoodChuckers said:

I have Zotac Firestorm if that helps

Yes! That is very similar to MSI afterburner. If you run that program you should be able to display and monitor the GPU usage. 

[WoodChuckers]

1 minute ago, MEC-777 said:

What are the minimum and maximum fps you are seeing? 

 

Install MSI afterburner and try to take a screen shot of the GPU usage while running a game. If you need to know how to use afterburner, there are plenty of quick guide videos on youtube. Once you have the screen shot, post it up here. 

My min graphics is around 15 depending what is going on in the game and then I can up to 35 depending on what I am doing in the game. 

 

I will run it when i get back to my computer. I am in class right now in college so once I run it and get a screenshot I will post it right away. Just not going to be later

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, WoodChuckers said:

My min graphics is around 15 depending what is going on in the game and then I can up to 35 depending on what I am doing in the game. 

 

I will run it when i get back to my computer. I am in class right now in college so once I run it and get a screenshot I will post it right away. Just not going to be later

If your fps is fluctuating then it's more likely to be hardware-related

[don_svetlio]

36 minutes ago, MEC-777 said:

@don_svetlio @Gordon Bennett 

 

To clear up a few things; A good quality PSU should be able to deliver most (80-90%) of it's rated power on the +12v rail(s) alone. This one the OP has is designed with two 12v rails. 27A on one and 28A on the other. Combined, it delivers only about 660w on the 12v rails. This is an 850w rated PSU. That raises huge red flags alone. 

 

A PSU that cannot provide enough clean power can cause a GPU to perform less than expected. I have experienced this first hand with 2 different GPUs (which both died as a result) before I figured out the PSU was bad. 

 

That being said, what makes me think this is not PSU related issue is because all the OP's games are running at a fixed 30fps. Lack of power from a PSU would not cause this, rather just an overall degradation of performance in general (and eventually, black screen). 

 

So while I would still HIGHLY recommend the OP replace that PSU ASAP, I'm leaning more towards this being a software-related issue, considering the 30fps limit. 

 

@WoodChuckers, can you tell us the GPU clocks and GPU usage % during game play? Also, what are you using to monitor frame rates?

Thing is - he is not having clockspeed issues and his frame-rate varies around 30.

[MEC-777]

16 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

Thing is - he is not having clockspeed issues and his frame-rate varies around 30.

With my 7950 and R9 290 (after the 7950 died) both ran at their proper clock speeds but I noticed with the 290, it did not perform as well as it should. Turns out the PSU was not delivering proper/clean enough power and killed that card soon after as well.

 

I believe the card will still try to run as designed and ramp up it's clocks under full usage, but performance suffers as it just can't get the power it needs, even though it appears to be running fine.

 

From reading the OP, I got the impression all their games were running at 30fps locked, not that they were dropping to around 30 or below and fluctuating. I agree, knowing this now, that makes me think the PSU is the potential cause.

 

It's also not necessarily the wattage, but how well the PSU can regulate the voltage that could be the issue. If this PSU uses group regulation as many cheap units do, then that could very well be what's happening here. It's a brand new GPU with the latest technology and tight voltage regulation is very important. 

[don_svetlio]

Just now, MEC-777 said:

With my 7950 and R9 290 (after the 7950 died) both ran at their proper clock speeds but I noticed with the 290, it did not perform as well as it should. Turns out the PSU was not delivering proper/clean enough power and killed that card soon after as well.

 

I believe the card will still try to run as designed and ramp up it's clocks under full usage, but performance suffers as it just can't get the power it needs, even though it appears to be running fine.

 

From reading the OP, I got the impression all their games were running at 30fps locked, not that they were dropping to around 30 or below and fluctuating. I agree, knowing this now, that makes me think the PSU is the potential cause.

 

It's not necessarily the wattage, but how well the PSU can regulate the voltage that could be the issue. If this PSU uses group regulation as many cheap units do, then that could very well be what's happening here. It's a brand new GPU with the latest technology and tight voltage regulation is very important. 

Precisely - I guess I didn't notice the way OP worded it but after he clarified, I am pretty certain that the PSU is not stable.

[Godlygamer23]

1 hour ago, Gordon Bennett said:

I will do the same, and have referred your post as the GPU is clearly 6 watt, and giving people false information is clearly not what I (nor anyone else) would expect from this forum, and even a 250w PSU would power a system with a GTX 1060!

What are you even talking about? The 1060 has a six pin PCIe connector which can deliver 75W, and the PCIe connector can deliver 75W. If the GPU only consumed 6W like you claim, why would we need such massive coolers and supplemental power connectors? 

[WoodChuckers]

5 minutes ago, MEC-777 said:

With my 7950 and R9 290 (after the 7950 died) both ran at their proper clock speeds but I noticed with the 290, it did not perform as well as it should. Turns out the PSU was not delivering proper/clean enough power and killed that card soon after as well.

 

I believe the card will still try to run as designed and ramp up it's clocks under full usage, but performance suffers as it just can't get the power it needs, even though it appears to be running fine.

 

From reading the OP, I got the impression all their games were running at 30fps locked, not that they were dropping to around 30 or below and fluctuating. I agree, knowing this now, that makes me think the PSU is the potential cause.

 

It's also not necessarily the wattage, but how well the PSU can regulate the voltage that could be the issue. If this PSU uses group regulation as many cheap units do, then that could very well be what's happening here. It's a brand new GPU with the latest technology and tight voltage regulation is very important. 

Okay that makes a lot of sense when you put it that way. Sorry if i wasn't clear before. I will still run firestorm and post a screenshot of my specs just so you guys can see. But since it seems like you guys feel it is a PSU issue than I will upgrade as soon as I can. 

[WkdPaul]

8 minutes ago, Godlygamer23 said:

What are you even talking about? The 1060 has a six pin PCIe connector which can deliver 75W, and the PCIe connector can deliver 75W. If the GPU only consumed 6W like you claim, why would we need such massive coolers and supplemental power connectors? 

He was talking about the idle consumption, but that's not related to anything OP is experiencing right now, so not sure why that was brought up in the first place.

[don_svetlio]

2 minutes ago, wkdpaul said:

He was talking about the idle consumption, but that's not related to anything OP is experiencing right now, so not sure why that was brought up in the first place.

I believe it was a poor attempt at trolling

[Dackzy]

10 minutes ago, Godlygamer23 said:

What are you even talking about? The 1060 has a six pin PCIe connector which can deliver 75W, and the PCIe connector can deliver 75W. If the GPU only consumed 6W like you claim, why would we need such massive coolers and supplemental power connectors? 

 

1 minute ago, wkdpaul said:

He was talking about the idle consumption, but that's not related to anything OP is experiencing right now, so not sure why that was brought up in the first place.

Idle is about 9-10w, BUT under load the FE peaks at 143w according to tomshardware. Idle has nothing to do with this convosation though and OP should get a better PSU, the thing he has is just a ticking bomb.

[WoodChuckers]

4 minutes ago, Dackzy said:

 

Idle is about 9-10w, BUT under load the FE peaks at 143w according to tomshardware. Idle has nothing to do with this convosation though and OP should get a better PSU, the thing he has is just a ticking bomb.

Yeah now that I think about it I had the same sort of issues when I had a GTX 960 2GB SSC. Now with this new information it probably had to do with the PSU. No?

[Dackzy]

Just now, WoodChuckers said:

Yeah now that I think about it I had the same sort of issues when I had a GTX 960 2GB SSC. Now with this new information it probably had to do with the PSU. No?

it might/ most likely have something to do with your PSU.

[WoodChuckers]

4 minutes ago, Dackzy said:

it might/ most likely have something to do with your PSU.

Alright in your guys opinion based on my rig what would be a good PSU. Dont want to spend more than 100. Preferably I would like to spend less than that.

[Dackzy]

1 minute ago, WoodChuckers said:

Alright in your guys opinion based on my rig what would be a good PSU. Dont want to spend more than 100. Preferably I would like to spend less than that.

EVGA G2 750W, Corsair CXM 750w (gray version, NOT GREEN), something from Seasonic.

650w should also be enough, but you never know what you might do in the future and it doesn't hurt to overkill a bit on the PSU.

[WoodChuckers]

3 minutes ago, Dackzy said:

EVGA G2 750W, Corsair CXM 750w (gray version, NOT GREEN), something from Seasonic.

650w should also be enough, but you never know what you might do in the future and it doesn't hurt to overkill a bit on the PSU.

What about a CORSAIR CX650M 80+ Bronze

[don_svetlio]

10 minutes ago, WoodChuckers said:

What about a CORSAIR CX650M 80+ Bronze

Nah, too low-end for your setup. Look at the SeaSonic G-series 550W

[MEC-777]

1 hour ago, WoodChuckers said:

Alright in your guys opinion based on my rig what would be a good PSU. Dont want to spend more than 100. Preferably I would like to spend less than that.

Something in the 550-650w range, 80+ gold rated. EVGA GS or G2 series, Seasonic, Coolermaster V series. 

 

Quality is the most important thing to look for in a PSU. 

[WoodChuckers]

Hey Guys. So i was finally able to get on my computer to run firestorm. I chose GTA V since it is one of my favorite games. All the settings were at Very High and Vsync was turned off. Here is my GPU results.

[WoodChuckers]

8 minutes ago, WoodChuckers said:

Hey Guys. So i was finally able to get on my computer to run firestorm. I chose GTA V since it is one of my favorite games. All the settings were at Very High and Vsync was turned off. Here is my GPU results.

 

sorry guys that is not the picture i wanted to send give me a sec

[WoodChuckers]

The second picture is what I wanted you guys to see.

[MoonlightSylv]

2 minutes ago, WoodChuckers said:

The second picture is what I wanted you guys to see.

As others have said it's probably the PSU, the CX650M is fine for your build, it's a grey label.

[Gullerback]

The voltage isn't reading or reporting anything, Is that a bug in the software? cause mine works fine.

[Dabombinable]

8 hours ago, WoodChuckers said:

 

I read some where that it might be because of my cpu. Since it is an older cpu and i have a newer gpu the cpu might be causing a bottleneck. Is that possible?

It shouldn't be-even now a 4790K is still one of the best CPU without going to X99.