Profanity Filter

[1823alex]

Why? Profanity filters are stupidly annoying. As someone already stated if you aren't ready to learn about female/male anatomy you aren't ready for the internet.

[Bsmith]

9 hours ago, Clanscorpia said:

Well, as usual, my ideas are deemed shit by the community

well to be honest, this idea isn't that stupid, but there isn't any demand for such a thing on this forum due to multiple reasons.

A) you have click a box that says you are 13+ when you sign up, if not the consequence's are at personal risk.

B) there isn't really any need for it here.

C) if it was needed people are likely to work around it if there is any real need to use such language.

D) everybody has it's own way of speaking and "profane" words such as "fuck" can also be meant positive like in "that's fucking awesome!" that's a way of speaking that I actually handle on a daily basis, a lot of profane word abuse, without the intend to cause harm, luckily I'm in a environment where that is being understood since I'm also able to communicate on a more sophisticated level then I normally show.

E) there are in the off topic section language based communities, like the German and Dutch groups, taking the Dutch one as example, when we say "douche" it translates to shower and not the typical person that has the behaviour of a monkey with a keyboard.

F) even flame wars are on a language level pretty civilised, the bigger problem is rather the people and/or trolls themselves.

G) like mentioned in point D, not every situation allows for a more civilised and sophisticated level of communication due to problems that arise with the lack of intonation of words and sentence's alike.

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9 hours ago, Clanscorpia said:

I doubt people are going to purposely try to evade it

You forgot the massive throbbing "/s"  Seriously though... you are kidding right?  That's like the number 1 thing people will try to do.  They will put their entire life force into doing it.  For the reasons listed (it shouldn't be necessary, it wouldn't work, people would just evade it, etc.) I wouldn't hold by breath about this becoming a thing any time soon.

 

5 hours ago, AlwaysFSX said:

Unfortunately moderation cannot be discussed, so I can't actually prove it. But yes, your account can be banned if you're underage.

I know that it's mod policy to actively remove any personal information posted by or about younger users, but this would be news to me.

[AlwaysFSX]

19 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

I know that it's mod policy to actively remove any personal information posted by or about younger users, but this would be news to me.

I only know of one or two people that have been banned because of age. This was a while ago though.

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1 minute ago, AlwaysFSX said:

I only know of one or two people that have been banned because of age. This was a while ago though.

Well, regardless of it that's true or not, there seems to be a simple solution to that - don't flaunt your age around  Seriously, as much as we like to think we have absolute control, if someone doesn't make it apparent that they're 8 years old, we'd never know.  Now, of course it's generally pretty hard to hide that, even if you don't say things like "windows XP is older than I am!" or outright post your age, just based on the experience level of things such a person would say, but the point remains.

[AlwaysFSX]

1 hour ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Well, regardless of it that's true or not, there seems to be a simple solution to that - don't flaunt your age around  Seriously, as much as we like to think we have absolute control, if someone doesn't make it apparent that they're 8 years old, we'd never know.  Now, of course it's generally pretty hard to hide that, even if you don't say things like "windows XP is older than I am!" or outright post your age, just based on the experience level of things such a person would say, but the point remains.

Yeeeeeaaaah. You'd think a small amount of common sense would be used.

[Atmos]

Profanity filters, can in situations be useful. In games it can sometimes be nice to have the option to turn on a profanity filter, for people who find it repulsive.

 

However, in a mostly open forum, where opinions are often strong, putting in place a profanity filter would only serve to annoy people who are trying to get their real feelings across and are unable to find the correct word. That and there are times when a fuck or damn are perfectly acceptable. People will find a way around the filters though, they literally always do. If someone is going to say fuck, they're going to find 100 ways to spell it and try each and every single one. 

If profanity really bothers you so much, then I'm 100% certain there is a browser addon somewhere out there that actively censors profanity in webpages, I'd highly suggest just using something like that.

 

1 hour ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Well, regardless of it that's true or not, there seems to be a simple solution to that - don't flaunt your age around  Seriously, as much as we like to think we have absolute control, if someone doesn't make it apparent that they're 8 years old, we'd never know.  Now, of course it's generally pretty hard to hide that, even if you don't say things like "windows XP is older than I am!" or outright post your age, just based on the experience level of things such a person would say, but the point remains.

Mostly off topic, but this has been bugging me for a while now. Are you some sort of new breed of mod? One that actually contributes to the community very frequently, and by more than just answering questions and moderating? Like seriously. Perhaps I've just missed all the other mods posting, but seriously it seems like 8 times out of 10, if a mod posts something, its you rofl.

[Tieox]

Go ahead put a filter on, give me 2hours, I will find a way past it.

 

I take it as a personal challenge, once I've succeeded though I get bored quickly.

[LabRat]

28 minutes ago, Kierax said:

Go ahead put a filter on, give me 2hours, I will find a way past it.

 

I take it as a personal challenge, once I've succeeded though I get bored quickly.

so now we need a hacker ban.........

[Tieox]

1 minute ago, LabRat said:

so now we need a hacker ban.........

OOO another challenge.

[Clonzoo]

Unsure how finding a hole in a profanity filter makes you a hacker but I guess I too am a hacker now!

 

As to the filter, if people are bothered I'm sure there are 100's of browser extension for this kind of stuff, how well they work is something I won't make a comment on. Its a good suggestion in a way, but they never work and if they do, chances are there will start blocking out words like duck and truck because I guess saying duck and ducking or trucking would be a way around it. Besides, in my honest opinion this is not a forum for people under the age of 13 neither would I like it to be just because they are all over the internet already, and many of them have no common sense and no parental guidance, atleast it looks like it most of the time. I do however not put them all in the same box, I have come over the occasional teens or kids that have been very nice and reasonable. But thats like 1 out of a 1000. Besides, if you can't handle profanity on the internet, just gtfo, its no place for the delicate minds.

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9 hours ago, AlwaysFSX said:

Yeeeeeaaaah. You'd think a small amount of common sense would be used.

I think we've all been around for long enough to know that's not a thing  

8 hours ago, Atmos said:

Profanity filters, can in situations be useful. In games it can sometimes be nice to have the option to turn on a profanity filter, for people who find it repulsive.

It's one thing where you can just toggle a pre-programmed option to not play or to beep out parts of the script, but adding a filter for things people type will almost certainly never accomplish the original goal.  The other thing is that this forum actually has relatively little swearing from my experience.  It's not like we're riddled with sailors swearing in every other post, so I find it kind of funny actually that it was suggested we try to add one.  Even in this thread, which, due to it's topic, should have been a prime target for people to just start swearing as much as they can, stayed pretty tame frankly.

8 hours ago, Atmos said:

Mostly off topic, but this has been bugging me for a while now. Are you some sort of new breed of mod? One that actually contributes to the community very frequently, and by more than just answering questions and moderating? Like seriously. Perhaps I've just missed all the other mods posting, but seriously it seems like 8 times out of 10, if a mod posts something, its you rofl.

Some are more active than others... I was already pretty active before and I wasn't planning to change that

[DXMember]

20 hours ago, Nineshadow said:

ikr

 

I just posted this here because I remembered the video, which is quite interesting.

what's wrong with Scunthrope though? apart that it has cunt in it? Why did he act so weird and run away?

[Nineshadow]

2 minutes ago, DXMember said:

what's wrong with Scunthrope though? apart that it has cunt in it? Why did he act so weird and run away?

Back in '95-y2k , AOL prevented residents from Scunthorpe from creating an account because the profanity filter blocked the word "cunt". Some years later Google apparently made the same mistake, lol ( they wouldn't let people search for businesses from Scunthorpe)

[DXMember]

21 hours ago, Clanscorpia said:

I doubt people are going to purposely try to evade it

 

21 hours ago, Nineshadow said:

 

11 hours ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

They will put their entire life force into doing it.

 

It gets better with later parts ))

 

[LabRat]

what happened to that vid where Linus talked about the site and the rules? ( might have been in a WAN show )..??

[Godlygamer23]

A profanity filter may not be the best solution because they can be evaded as I have seen on various chat services that have the filters in place.

[AlTech]

21 hours ago, Clanscorpia said:

I'm not concerned, but some kids will see Linus videos and  come here. And honestly, who gives 1 shit about the are you 13 or older? Seriously

That is actually tied to a colloquial government data collection law.

 

The government says companies are not legally allowed to spy on children under 13. That is why you have to be 13 or older.

[daniellearmouth]

Scunthorpe.

 

That is all.

[asand1]

On 7/3/2016 at 3:42 PM, Clanscorpia said:

I doubt people are going to purposely try to evade it

You completely missed the point of the video. "Curse words" regularly are components of larger everyday words. 

 

My friend Dick was embarrassed when he realized his newly installed window was cocked.

 

My friend **** was embarr***ed  when he realized his newly installed window was ****ed.

 

profanity filters don't fcuking work, and simpliy break the sh!t out of an otherwise dam good forum.

 

Wanting to create laws, rules, and coensorship for the sake of others that don' want it? Sounds like you have an interesting future in politics.

 

 

[Clanscorpia]

38 minutes ago, asand1 said:

You completely missed the point of the video. "Curse words" regularly are components of larger everyday words. 

 

My friend Dick was embarrassed when he realized his newly installed window was cocked.

 

My friend **** was embarr***ed  when he realized his newly installed window was ****ed.

 

profanity filters don't fcuking work, and simpliy break the sh!t out of an otherwise dam good forum.

 

Wanting to create laws, rules, and coensorship for the sake of others that don' want it? Sounds like you have an interesting future in politics.

 

 

It was just an idea for young children. Calm the fuck down

[asand1]

5 minutes ago, Clanscorpia said:

It was just an idea for young children. Calm the fuck down

Stop reacting like a 13 year old and apply logic while reading my previous post minus the political jab. You will see the folly in profanity filters. They block the wrong text, while profane posters just sidestep the filter anyway. This forum is already PG13, no need to protect the innocent here. 

[Tieox]

I recall a site setting up a filter which was very unpopular, locals got around this by writing the swear word in notepad, print screening this, then hotlinking the image into discussions.

 

Drove the moderators mad before they realized. 

 

 

[SansVarnic]

On 7/3/2016 at 5:48 PM, Clanscorpia said:

Well, as usual, my ideas are deemed shit by the community

I don't agree, your idea is not shit it is just not practical, unfortunately, no matter how well intended it is.

 

The only real filter is a good parent that monitors what their child is involved in on the internet and puts limits on what they believe is inappropriate for the child.

Edited July 5, 2016 by SansVarnic

[Hard checker]

On 7/3/2016 at 6:42 PM, AlwaysFSX said:

You know when you sign up, there's that section "Are you 13 or older?" you have to click on. Yeahh.. That's a thing.

 

Also, it's the internet, if parents are concerned they should be monitor their child's online activities. Should be common knowledge to them and children that everything you can imagine is online. So if you're concerned about seeing swearing, fuck off and go to a different website.

 

Seriously though.

Hey signed up for tomshardware 5months later wait I'm getting banned for cursing in a couple post so why did I have to say I'm 13 or older and I'm also getting close for asking a badly worded my friend got this laptop and the person forgot the password and I need a way to basically reset do you know a way. And fuck punctuation