premiere pro cc GTX 1070 or RADEON RX 480 for Video Editing

[matteallsop]

Built my second self build early this year, I have been using a really old AMD GPU in it whilst waiting for the newer GPUs to be released. Now that's close I'm debating on which to get either a GTX 1070 or a RADEON RX 480, for my editing system.

 

Premiere Pro CC is the editor and I'm looking at using GPU Acceleration to speed up render times and timeline playback.

 

Which would possibly be the more suitable GPU?

 

[Enderman]

if you can afford it, get the 1070, since it performs better

 

[Unhelpful]

They aren't even lined up to be competing cards. One of them is 2x the price of the other.

[S7117]

6 minutes ago, matteallsop said:

Built my second self build early this year, I have been using a really old AMD GPU in it whilst waiting for the newer GPUs to be released. Now that's close I'm debating on which to get either a GTX 1070 or a RADEON RX 480, for my editing system.

 

Premiere Pro CC is the editor and I'm looking at using GPU Acceleration to speed up render times and timeline playback.

 

Which would possibly be the more suitable GPU?

 

considering that amd has a tendency of TRYING to kill Nvidia but usually fail... GTX 1070. Also the 480 specs arent released yet and neither are the benchmarks.

[Zyndo]

RX 480 vs GTX 1070? the only comparison you can make is price.

the 1070 is substantially better than the 480, but its also substantially more expensive. get whichever one you would rather pay for. RX480 would be excellent for 1080p gaming on a budget. 1070 would be good at 1080p-1440p if that's more your thing (or an entry level 4k card, though you may have to turn some settings down to get there)

So get whichever one you can best afford. if you can easily get a 1070, then get it because it will easily outperform the 480

[byalexandr]

Well think of it this way.

 

Single card to single card, the 1070 performs way better. But the 1070 is twice the price.

 

Dual RX 480 to single 1070, the RX 480 CF will win (from what we know so far) for the price of a single 1070 (dual RX 480 comes out to $400 or so just like the 1070).

 

I would just get a 1070 (in fact I am) but that's something to consider.

[Unhelpful]

3 minutes ago, byalexandr said:

Well think of it this way.

 

Single card to single card, the 1070 performs way better. But the 1070 is twice the price.

 

Dual RX 480 to single 1070, the RX 480 CF will win (from what we know so far) for the price of a single 1070 (dual RX 480 comes out to $400 or so just like the 1070).

 

I would just get a 1070 (in fact I am) but that's something to consider.

What I don't get is... When you can get dual to perform like single for the same price... WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU GO FOR DUAL OVER SINGLE?!?! It's just adding heat, power, and bugs.

[byalexandr]

1 minute ago, JoeyDM said:

What I don't get is... When you can get dual to perform like single for the same price... WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU GO FOR DUAL OVER SINGLE?!?! It's just adding heat, power, and bugs.

Because it's the same price and it performs a lot better. Some people would take that in exchange for some extra heat and power draw (which is only 150W from each card anyway).

[Unhelpful]

2 minutes ago, byalexandr said:

Because it's the same price and it performs a lot better. Some people would take that in exchange for some extra heat and power draw (which is only 150W from each card anyway).

We don't know how dual 480's will perform. It stands to reason that they may beat the 1070, but we don't know that. Plus you're adding on bugs, and it will only work on games where crossfire actually works. Dual 480 still makes no fucking sense.

[byalexandr]

7 minutes ago, JoeyDM said:

We don't know how dual 480's will perform. It stands to reason that they may beat the 1070, but we don't know that. Plus you're adding on bugs, and it will only work on games where crossfire actually works. Dual 480 still makes no fucking sense.

If it beats a 1080 handily then I'm sure it will outperform a 1070.

[Unhelpful]

4 minutes ago, byalexandr said:

If it beats a 1080 handily then I'm sure it will outperform a 1070.

Show me where it "handily" beats a 1080, outside of AOTS. AOTS is as viable a benchmark as fucking passmark.

 

It's the same as 660ti vs 780. Yes. The dual 660ti's will beat the 780. In some games where dual gpu isn't shit. Dual gpu is still shit, it's actually gone downhill in the last 3 years.

[byalexandr]

2 minutes ago, JoeyDM said:

Show me where it "handily" beats a 1080, outside of AOTS. AOTS is as viable a benchmark as fucking passmark.

 

It's the same as 660ti vs 780. Yes. The dual 660ti's will beat the 780. In some games where dual gpu isn't shit. Dual gpu is still shit, it's actually gone downhill in the last 3 years.

Easy there, I was just making a point that dual 480 is faster. I was not suggesting he get dual 480s, in fact I specifically said he should just get a 1070. I know dual 480s doesn't make sense, but it is faster for the same price. That's all.

 

Edit: @matteallsop I also see that you're using Premier Pro CC. Adobe products as far as I know use CUDA to their advantage, so the 1070 would be even better for this case.

[Unhelpful]

1 minute ago, byalexandr said:

Easy there, I was just making a point that dual 480 is faster. I was not suggesting he get dual 480s, in fact I specifically said he should just get a 1070. I know dual 480s doesn't make sense, but it is faster for the same price. That's all.

But that's just it... You don't know that dual 480 is faster. That's what I'm saying. It probably is. It stands to reason that it is, in games where crossfire actually works, but we don't know yet. So I'm asking to quit spread that notion around, before benchmarks come out.

[byalexandr]

1 minute ago, JoeyDM said:

But that's just it... You don't know that dual 480 is faster. That's what I'm saying. It probably is. It stands to reason that it is, in games where crossfire actually works, but we don't know yet. So I'm asking to quit spread that notion around, before benchmarks come out.

I'm 90% sure it's faster. There.

[RyGuy99]

2 minutes ago, byalexandr said:

Easy there, I was just making a point that dual 480 is faster. I was not suggesting he get dual 480s, in fact I specifically said he should just get a 1070. I know dual 480s doesn't make sense, but it is faster for the same price. That's all.

 

Edit: @matteallsop I also see that you're using Premier Pro CC. Adobe products as far as I know use CUDA to their advantage, so the 1070 would be even better for this case.

His post was about editing using Adobe Premiere Pro CC did you miss that on the first read?

[byalexandr]

1 minute ago, RyGuy99 said:

His post was about editing using Adobe Premiere Pro CC did you miss that on the first read?

I just read it, that's why I made an edit.

[Unhelpful]

2 minutes ago, byalexandr said:

I'm 90% sure it's faster. There.

Don't give a number without any metrics. It's probably faster (in games where dual GPU works). 

 

That still didn't make dual 770 make any sense over 980. Or dual 7850 make sense over a 7970.

[RyGuy99]

1 minute ago, byalexandr said:

I just read it, that's why I made an edit.

You commented without reading the original post? 

[t24revl]

I know in the past AMD cards were better for GPU acceleration than NVIDIA but we don't have anything on the RX 480 yet. Wait for some benchmarks to see. I know it was mentioned before, but putting two cards in Crossfire or SLI does NOT equate to double the performance. And for assuming that once card is faster than the other, it's just plain stupid since there is literally no evidence to back that up.

[byalexandr]

39 minutes ago, RyGuy99 said:

You commented without reading the original post? 

I only missed that part.

[RyGuy99]

26 minutes ago, byalexandr said:

I only missed that part.

It was the main part of the post 

 

Correction: main use of the graphics card upgrade. 

[The Flying Sloth]

Just get a 480, Amazing card for the price.

[Maxxtraxx]

1 hour ago, byalexandr said:

Because it's the same price and it performs a lot better. Some people would take that in exchange for some extra heat and power draw (which is only 150W from each card anyway).

It's the same price and offers higher frame rates BUT... it provides worse frame time latency and has frame pacing issues AND is not supported in all games AND leaves no path forward for future upgrades without replacing both cards(triple SLI/CFX are a generally bad solution).

[niofalpha]

1 hour ago, JoeyDM said:

Show me where it "handily" beats a 1080, outside of AOTS. AOTS is as viable a benchmark as fucking passmark.

 

It's the same as 660ti vs 780. Yes. The dual 660ti's will beat the 780. In some games where dual gpu isn't shit. Dual gpu is still shit, it's actually gone downhill in the last 3 years.

The same people that say AOTS should be pushed for benchmarks more are the same ones that say Gameworks games shouldn't be used for benchmarks... By AMD fanboys. Not saying that the guy you're replying to is one, just saying using AOTS for benchmarking seems like a dumb idea.

[Delicieuxz]

1 hour ago, JoeyDM said:

We don't know how dual 480's will perform. It stands to reason that they may beat the 1070, but we don't know that. Plus you're adding on bugs, and it will only work on games where crossfire actually works. Dual 480 still makes no fucking sense.

I think CF / SLI works pretty much everywhere it's useful to, and that there can sometimes be a pessimistic over-estimation of how many games lack SLI / CF support.

 

I think it's reasonable to suspect that 2x 480 will greatly outperform a 1070, because we know the RX 480 TFlops performance is >5 (some reports said 5.5), while the GTX 1070 TFlops performance is 6.5. So, 2x 480 at stock is probably ~11 Tflops, compared to GTX 1070's 6.5 TFlops.

 

We also saw 2x 480 outperform a GTX 1080, and while it was in an async-heavy game, as you pointed out, the other detail to take into consideration regarding that benchmark is that the 2x 480 setup was running at 51% GPU utilization, while the GTX 1080 setup was at 98.7% GPU utilization. Also, the GTX 1080 does 9 TFlops, to compare to 2x 480s ~11 TFlops.