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What the *expletive* is going on with gpu prices?

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I "panic" sold my founders rtx 2070 super when ampere was announced. Got 450 for it so like no harm no foul. But like seriously WTF is up with gpu prices now? Obviously the bots are grabbing the 3080s super fast. But like prices across the board suck. Theres only really been one significant restock of the 3080s and it was on Nvidias website and they were gone in 5 minutes. I've had one in my cart 3 separate times but it never lets me check out. Been monitoring nowinstock pretty regularly but its kind of pointless. My local microcenter never has them in stock when I call and bestbuy doesn't even carry them in store. What are my options? I am kind of over the 3080 tbh the whole card pisses me off. I am not going back to the 2070 super..... Gone are the days of the 500-600 2080tis too. They're well over 1k again all over Ebay. What hope do I have for the 3070? That is the card I initially wanted( Even back in april when I built my rig I planned on using the 2070 super as a placeholder). I went for the 3080 because I thought the 3070 was going to be the hard one to get. The whole situation just blows wiener and it kind of just leaves me stuck. I've been stuck with the crappy integrated graphics of my 10850k for the past month and its no bueno. I hate all of this. 


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Good status update.

 

Basically it's supply, demand, marketing, economics, and capitalism with a sprinkling of pandemic and supply chain logistics.

 

it's how the world works.  Can't get a 3080, so you'd get the other stuff, but people realize this and jack the other stuff up to make more money, etc etc etc.


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1 minute ago, Dedayog said:

Good status update.

 

Basically it's supply, demand, marketing, economics, and capitalism with a sprinkling of pandemic and supply chain logistics.

 

it's how the world works.  Can't get a 3080, so you'd get the other stuff, but people realize this and jack the other stuff up to make more money, etc etc etc.

^^^^

 

Long story short people want to make the most money in the fastest and most efficient way possible


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I hate to be that guy, but hopefully you learned something from this. Don't panic sell your gear in hopes that you can grab the latest and greatest. Especially in the world we live in now. Always plan for the worst and hope for the best. Sorry to hear that you are stuck with the iGPU for now, hopefully this month we will start to see more cards available at closer to if not MSRP hit the shelves.

 

And if you can help it, don't succumb to the Ebay scalpers. No need to support that industry. But yeah it's your money so do what you feel is best for you.

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1 minute ago, BuckGup said:

^^^^

 

Long story short people want to make the most money in the fastest and most efficient way possible

Which obviously is to buy the 3080s and sell them for (literally) twice as much. People are buying them like starbucks coffee too. It's sickening. 


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3 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Basically it's supply, demand, marketing, economics, and capitalism with a sprinkling of pandemic and supply chain logistics.

100% and was exactly what I was thinking.

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1 minute ago, Bad5ector said:

I hate to be that guy, but hopefully you learned something from this. Don't panic sell your gear in hopes that you can grab the latest and greatest. Especially in the world we live in now. Always plan for the worst and hope for the best. Sorry to hear that you are stuck with the iGPU for now, hopefully this month we will start to see more cards available at closer to if not MSRP hit the shelves.

 

And if you can help it, don't succumb to the Ebay scalpers. No need to support that industry. But yeah it's your money so do what you feel is best for you.

I'd rather shove a white hot rusty nail up my "you know what" then pay more than MSRP and reward a scalper so thats not gonna happen. I'm literally just going to buy the FIRST 3080/3070 that miraculously goes in stock in the next few weeks hopefully. Not going the AMD route because I have a Gsync panel 


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Actually had this discussion with a client yesterday because he wanted to flip he sealed 5700XT he never got to using (all hsi parts has been laying sealed in my closet since March bc I don't have the workspace to build his PC rn, he doesn't mind. Had to explain to him that AMD cards aren't selling for a ton of money, and getting anything better right now would have to be with Nvidia, and that is impossible bc supply+demand, and everything else @Dedayogsaid fucked up the pricings. 

 

 

God I hate fucking scalpers. Scammers, anybody that puts too much of a markup on their product, or start selling stuff for like 5x or more their actual value to illiterate customers makes my blood boil. 


Fuck you scalpers, fuck you scammers, fuck all of you jerks that charge way too much to tech-illiterate people. 

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It might have even been a better option to take advantage of this and get a 2080 for really cheap while everyone else is struggling to get the new cards, then wait for the price to go down or for the 2080 to go out of date.

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@Ryan829 Good man! Seriously I lose respect for someone when I hear they purchased these from Scalpers. I really hope you can scoop one up soon enough. I was thinking I might go AMD but you just reminded me about G-Sync (which my monitor is)... D'oh... Oh well, I wasn't planning on getting anything until the dust settles. Though I'm banking on the dust settling before Cyberpunk 2077. Maybe the 20gb cards will be available by then?? Wishful thinking I'm sure. lol

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Just now, Yo soy Jack said:

It might have even been a better option to take advantage of this and get a 2080 for really cheap while everyone else is struggling to get the new cards, then wait for the price to go down or for the 2080 to go out of date.

You do realize how hard that is. Prices of all 20 and 30 series Nvidia cards on ebay are sky high. They are selling used 2080TIs for above their original MSRP. 


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Just now, Yo soy Jack said:

It might have even been a better option to take advantage of this and get a 2080 for really cheap while everyone else is struggling to get the new cards, then wait for the price to go down or for the 2080 to go out of date.

But like even those aren't cheap anymore. Ebay, CL, Facebook marketplace, offerup etc. Everyone wants WAY too much for their outdated cards. Even like 2080s( non super) are 500-600 right now. Which is obviously a joke because in two weeks the 3070 is going to take those cards out to a candlelight dinner, back to their place, and then #$% them until they cant see straight, for the same price or cheaper 


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Just now, Nathanpete said:

You do realize how hard that is. Prices of all 20 and 30 series Nvidia cards on ebay are sky high. They are selling used 2080TIs for above their original MSRP. 

I’m aware of that, but right at the announcement of the 30 series you had 13 year olds panic selling their cards, and if I hadn’t already had one I would have gotten one then.

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1 minute ago, Nathanpete said:

You do realize how hard that is. Prices of all 20 and 30 series Nvidia cards on ebay are sky high. They are selling used 2080TIs for above their original MSRP. 

Exactly. The demand must be ASTRONOMICAL. I think its all them pascal 1060/1070 folks as well as maybe some like maxwell 970/980ti folks as well as ex console gamers and panic-gpu-ampere-announcment sellers like me all want the same like what it seems like 5 cards nvidia produced 


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1 minute ago, Ryan829 said:

Exactly. The demand must be ASTRONOMICAL. I think its all them pascal 1060/1070 folks as well as maybe some like maxwell 970/980ti folks as well as ex console gamers and panic-gpu-ampere-announcment sellers like me all want the same like what it seems like 5 cards nvidia produced 

I feel like some of those people are those than panic sold, and then learned that bots took their 3080 away from them, so now they have to wait till prob new years before they can play on PC again, so they are trying to buy back their card for an increased price. 


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6 minutes ago, Ryan829 said:

Exactly. The demand must be ASTRONOMICAL. I think its all them pascal 1060/1070 folks as well as maybe some like maxwell 970/980ti folks as well as ex console gamers and panic-gpu-ampere-announcment sellers like me all want the same like what it seems like 5 cards nvidia produced 

Don't forget demand doesn't equate to need.

 

For some reason the demand for 3080's (a 1440p and 4k card) is amazing but way out of spec for a $700-800 card.  Do all these people NEED this?

 

 

No.

 

Marketing hype and bullshit have made people think that they want one.  Wait to see how many 1080p + 3080 combos are out there.  Ridiculous.


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6 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

 Do all these people NEED this?

Many of them just want bragging rights. The price is the selling point.


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10 minutes ago, Nathanpete said:

Actually had this discussion with a client yesterday because he wanted to flip he sealed 5700XT he never got to using (all hsi parts has been laying sealed in my closet since March bc I don't have the workspace to build his PC rn, he doesn't mind. Had to explain to him that AMD cards aren't selling for a ton of money, and getting anything better right now would have to be with Nvidia, and that is impossible bc supply+demand, and everything else @Dedayogsaid fucked up the pricings. 

 

 

God I hate fucking scalpers. Scammers, anybody that puts too much of a markup on their product, or start selling stuff for like 5x or more their actual value to illiterate customers makes my blood boil. 

Especially since the scalpers like are not even gamers/enthusiasts or even like this stuff. They are just money hungry POS's. The same people who buy/sell tickets and sneakers etc 


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RTX 2080 Ti's prices are high now...because people actually believed in the stupid marketing HYPE.

If RTX 3070 is going to be more powerful than a 2080 Ti, then the RTX 3080 or RTX 3090 is going to be GODLY.

 

"OH SHIT! Gotta dump my RTX 2070 / 2070S / 2080 / 2080S / 2080 Ti right away...like right now!!"

Only to realize, the RTX 3080 is only ~20% faster than the 2080 Ti, and RTX 3090 is only ~10% faster than the RTX 3080 in gaming.

RTX 3070 is probably going to be on-par, or under the RTX 2080 Ti in realistic gaming  performance (most likely in between RTX 2080S and 2080 Ti).

Then people are like you...WTF?! I have no graphics card now...RTX 3080 / 3090 stock is non-existent...NEED to buy back a RTX 2080 Ti now.

If you have mass people buying...other people WILL make money off of that.

 

EDIT:

Also this was leaked...apparently from GALAX.

If this is true, then RTX 3070 is NOT faster than a RTX 2080 Ti...what nVidia marketed is not true.

GALAX Confirms GeForce RTX 3080 20GB and RTX 3060, RTX 3060 Matches RTX  2080 | TechPowerUp

 

Leaked Galax slide confirms NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 20 GB, RTX 3070 Ti, RTX  3060 and RTX 3070 inferiority to the RTX 2080 Ti - NotebookCheck.net News


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1 hour ago, -rascal- said:

RTX 2080 Ti's prices are high now...because people actually believed in the stupid marketing HYPE.

If RTX 3070 is going to be more powerful than a 2080 Ti, then the RTX 3080 or RTX 3090 is going to be GODLY.

 

"OH SHIT! Gotta dump my RTX 2070 / 2070S / 2080 / 2080S / 2080 Ti right away...like right now!!"

Only to realize, the RTX 3080 is only ~20% faster than the 2080 Ti, and RTX 3090 is only ~10% faster than the RTX 3080 in gaming.

RTX 3070 is probably going to be on-par, or under the RTX 2080 Ti in realistic gaming  performance (most likely in between RTX 2080S and 2080 Ti).

Then people are like you...WTF?! I have no graphics card now...RTX 3080 / 3090 stock is non-existent...NEED to buy back a RTX 2080 Ti now.

If you have mass people buying...other people WILL make money off of that.

 

EDIT:

Also this was leaked...apparently from GALAX.

If this is true, then RTX 3070 is NOT faster than a RTX 2080 Ti...what nVidia marketed is not true.

GALAX Confirms GeForce RTX 3080 20GB and RTX 3060, RTX 3060 Matches RTX  2080 | TechPowerUp

 

Leaked Galax slide confirms NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 20 GB, RTX 3070 Ti, RTX  3060 and RTX 3070 inferiority to the RTX 2080 Ti - NotebookCheck.net News

 

 

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4 hours ago, Nathanpete said:

You do realize how hard that is. Prices of all 20 and 30 series Nvidia cards on ebay are sky high. They are selling used 2080TIs for above their original MSRP. 

And any brand new 20-series cards are still being sold for their MSRP if you can find them, I've noticed. (Source: Local Micro Center)


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