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I've seen load of people say that the 2080ti is a RIP off etc. So is it actually worth getting. Or should you wait for the next gen ones (whenever they are out) 

 

I currently have a gtx 1070, just for something to go by. 

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If you are not on 4K then it does not worth.


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A lot of people don't understand that the 2080Ti is a Titan class card in terms of performance and price, not a consumer class one.

 

2080 makes much more sense.


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It's the fastest single GPU so there's a big price premium, and it didnt offer nearly as much value as its predecessor, the 1080Ti. If you have the cash for the best of the best, then sure go for it. Otherwise, nope.


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No, it's not actually worth getting. We can't even make the 'if you've got money to burn' argument, because if you've got money to burn there's the Titan RTX there for you. You're on a 1070, so going 2 steps above that would make sense. That means you've got 3 options. A used 1080ti, Radeon VII or RTX 2080.

 

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I just personally upgraded to a 2080ti from a 1070 when I was in Chicago and went to Microcenter. I did it more to give me a longer future with it since generally TI models generally perform very well for upwards of 5+ years after launch so I did it more for the long haul, not the sense of having the best/fastest card available. Worth of anything is honestly a question only you can truthfully answer. 


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6 minutes ago, SenpaiKaplan said:

A lot of people don't understand that the 2080Ti is a Titan class card in terms of performance and price, not a consumer class one.

Say that to the 2500 dollars RTX TITAN, the truth is this is the NEW 80 Ti class pricing like it or not and the 2080 Ti is in every single way a consumer GPU since it does not have any single driver optimization or functionality of "workstation" cards like the real TITAN or Quadros.


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1 hour ago, Spancer said:

I still can't see a reason to upgrade from my 1070, even on 1440p.

Load up a AAA game and try to get to 144fps. On a lot of games I can't even do it with a 2080 ti. 

In the ACO bench I average 107fps at 1440p so I was not going to get that 144hz feeling. 

 

1 hour ago, Princess Luna said:

Say that to the 2500 dollars RTX TITAN, the truth is this is the NEW 80 Ti class pricing like it or not and the 2080 Ti is in every single way a consumer GPU since it does not have any single driver optimization or functionality of "workstation" cards like the real TITAN or Quadros.

I thought the same until I watched this video.

 

 


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16 minutes ago, jones177 said:

I thought the same until I watched this video.

Which shows the RTX TITAN leading the charts like the TITAN Xp before did.... so... what's your point?


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2 hours ago, October22nd said:

I've seen load of people say that the 2080ti is a RIP off etc. So is it actually worth getting. Or should you wait for the next gen ones (whenever they are out) 

 

I currently have a gtx 1070, just for something to go by. 

 

Absolutely worth it if you are playing AAA games at 1440P or above.

 

It's the fastest gaming GPU on the market today and by a good margin.

 

A lot of the negative is from people who can't afford them. ;)


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2 hours ago, October22nd said:

I've seen load of people say that the 2080ti is a RIP off etc. So is it actually worth getting. Or should you wait for the next gen ones (whenever they are out) 

Ultra high end x80ti Cards are never worth it.

Especially now when the other side is to relase a new generation with better manufacturing soon

 

2 hours ago, October22nd said:

I currently have a gtx 1070, just for something to go by. 

why replace it and throw money in the mouth of the dragon?


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16 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

Which shows the RTX TITAN leading the charts like the TITAN Xp before did.... so... what's your point?

It is beating workstation cards that cost more.

 

For the type of work I did the 2080 ti looks good when it comes to price.


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Worth if you have the money, want to spend it on the GPU and want to get pretty good performance in every game in the next few years (and if your system is good enough, don't waste $1300 on the RTX 2080 ti if you are still with an i5 or a Ryzen 5)

Yes, it would be ridiculous to get the RTX 2080 ti for 1080p gaming when the 2080 is better suited for it, but the 2080ti will do the trick at higher settings and higher fps, and could survive the monitor upgrade too, if you have the money and want to spend it, knowing what performance you'll get and having a good overall system...

I will definitely get a top GPU once I get back from my trips (if I have enough money after getting my car adjusted), because $1300 is nothing if I can spend it and be happy with it for the next years

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4 hours ago, SenpaiKaplan said:

A lot of people don't understand that the 2080Ti is a Titan class card in terms of performance and price, not a consumer class one.

 

2080 makes much more sense.

it's not a titan class card, and it depends on the monitor. it's the fastest single card, and that's the selling point.

4 hours ago, October22nd said:

I've seen load of people say that the 2080ti is a RIP off etc. So is it actually worth getting. Or should you wait for the next gen ones (whenever they are out) 

 

I currently have a gtx 1070, just for something to go by. 

depends on your monitor, if you are going to max out 4k/60 or 1440p/144 then 2080 ti is worth it, or even 4k/98 on medium. In terms of efficiency, with the recent drivers, the jump from 2070 to 2080 is 15% for 200dollars, and the 2080 to 2080 ti is 25% for 300 dollars (evga black), for incremental jumps of the same gen at the high end it's actually not too bad, but the entire RTX lineup is overpriced, including the 2060, the radeon vii is actually the best deal at 650usd + 2 free games. 

 

The RTX cards has a 2% market share after 9 months, it's a dead gen like Fermi, bricks sitting around at retailers (nvidia has declining profits in a monopoly with turing, they somehow did it) don't be afraid to skip it unless u absolutely need the fastest single card.

 

If you are not using 4k/60+ or 1440p/144hz then wait for navi and see how it is first, rumors have it as a cheaper 2070. 

 


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If you want to play 4k/60fps, 1440p Ultrawide/100+ fps, or 1440p/144+fps with the eye candy, then yes.


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4 hours ago, October22nd said:

I've seen load of people say that the 2080ti is a RIP off etc. So is it actually worth getting. Or should you wait for the next gen ones (whenever they are out) 

 

I currently have a gtx 1070, just for something to go by. 


I understand where they are coming from but i do not agree. At the forefront of new tech is always a hazardous place to be... Ofcourse as marktleaders they have to proof their worth to a lot of different groups of people.
Personally speaking, gaming wise the xx7x line is more then enough but if you have the money to spend and your either a first time pc customer or upgrading from a 7xx or 8xx maybe even a 9xx gen line of cards to them i say why not?

for myself i use the atleast 100% increase of power rule for the next gpu.. thats a range from 75% to 1xx %
With that in mind and the figures of 74% effective speed over a 1070Ti and a 83% general bench score over the 1070Ti ( measurements taken from userbenchmark )
i say yes it is a worthy upgrade candidate though... if the money appals you then your better of for waiting another 3 generations and choose the x6xx

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4 hours ago, Ankerson said:

A lot of the negative is from people who can't afford them. ;)

Sometimes I hear people complain about the dollar menu at McDonald's.. Pathetic.. 


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7 hours ago, October22nd said:

I've seen load of people say that the 2080ti is a RIP off etc. So is it actually worth getting. Or should you wait for the next gen ones (whenever they are out) 

 

I currently have a gtx 1070, just for something to go by. 

Depends if you want to play 4k @ 60fps.  I personally don't.  I rather play at 1440p with all nvidia panel settings set to max all AA methods turned on and I get triple digit framerates in AAA titles.  If you don't plan on playing at 4k then the 2080Ti is a waiste.  Also the 3080 is around the corner, why not spend 800 bucks in a 2080 then save that money for the 3080 and buy that for 700 bucks.  That will equal your 2080Ti money you spend which is a big rip off.


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14 minutes ago, ch3w2oy said:

Sometimes I hear people complain about the dollar menu at McDonald's.. Pathetic.. 

 

Yeah well, some people are just pathetic. LOL :D

 

Normally anything that is expensive or should I say not cheap is always a target no matter what.

 

Lots of sour grapes etc. 

 

Anything that is the best and or fastest etc will be more expensive, it's always been that way. And there will always be those who target said things because they are out of their range and or they are too cheap to buy them.

 

I mean I can't afford to buy a Ferrari and never will, but I don't target them or talk trash about them. ;) I doubt I would buy one or any car like that because I just don't have any use for it in the 1st place. With my luck someone would likely hit it and or steal it. LOL :D


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1 hour ago, Ankerson said:

 

Yeah well, some people are just pathetic. LOL :D

 

Normally anything that is expensive or should I say not cheap is always a target no matter what.

 

Lots of sour grapes etc. 

 

Anything that is the best and or fastest etc will be more expensive, it's always been that way. And there will always be those who target said things because they are out of their range and or they are too cheap to buy them.

 

I mean I can't afford to buy a Ferrari and never will, but I don't target them or talk trash about them. ;) I doubt I would buy one or any car like that because I just don't have any use for it in the 1st place. With my luck someone would likely hit it and or steal it. LOL :D

The Ferrari is the perfect example.  You pay a premium for it being what it is, it's fast as hell, but money/HP is a terrible bargain.  A vette Z06 is a much better VALUE (600 some horses, can get almost new for easily 70-80k; you will pay well into the high 100's for the privilege to drive a ferrari/lambo, maybe get some more horses and better handling, but absolute garbage value).

 

The 2080ti is currently the only way to keep high (120-140) frame rates at 1440p (though the 2080 does OK) and at 4k forget about it- you will be stuck at 60 fps (if you're lucky to even get that) and might not even get that unless you have the 2080ti.  Add in ray tracing (though it seems to be kind of shitty), and definitely forget about it.  It is a beast...a massively overpriced, bad value, beast.  But if you want those buttery smooth frame rates, it is the only game in town for now (or SLI 2080s/1080ti's, but also have to deal with the glitches and heat involved).

 

 


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14 minutes ago, Zberg said:

The Ferrari is the perfect example.  You pay a premium for it being what it is, it's fast as hell, but money/HP is a terrible bargain.  A vette Z06 is a much better VALUE (600 some horses, can get almost new for easily 70-80k; you will pay well into the high 100's for the privilege to drive a ferrari/lambo, maybe get some more horses and better handling, but absolute garbage value).

 

The 2080ti is currently the only way to keep high (120-140) frame rates at 1440p (though the 2080 does OK) and at 4k forget about it- you will be stuck at 60 fps (if you're lucky to even get that) and might not even get that unless you have the 2080ti.  Add in ray tracing (though it seems to be kind of shitty), and definitely forget about it.  It is a beast...a massively overpriced, bad value, beast.  But if you want those buttery smooth frame rates, it is the only game in town for now (or SLI 2080s/1080ti's, but also have to deal with the glitches and heat involved).

 

 

 

Unlike the Ferrari one can actually use the RTX 2080Ti. 😎

 

There are a few places one can actually drive those exotics and not get arrested, but other than those they are basically garage queens or investments.  

 

For people like me it doesn't make since to go fast just to stop at the next stop light or stop sign. I am happy with my SUV and truck. :)

 

Then there are the other cars and people to worry about also.


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1 hour ago, Ankerson said:

 

Yeah well, some people are just pathetic. LOL :D

 

Normally anything that is expensive or should I say not cheap is always a target no matter what.

 

Lots of sour grapes etc. 

 

Anything that is the best and or fastest etc will be more expensive, it's always been that way. And there will always be those who target said things because they are out of their range and or they are too cheap to buy them.

 

I mean I can't afford to buy a Ferrari and never will, but I don't target them or talk trash about them. ;) I doubt I would buy one or any car like that because I just don't have any use for it in the 1st place. With my luck someone would likely hit it and or steal it. LOL :D

The largest problems are very obvious, but you seem to ignore it blissfully.

 

First off, (this was done with pascal as well) the memory bus has been gimped just to save nvidia the trouble of putting a full 384 bit bus and 12gb vram on a supposedly fully fledged card, secondly RTX in its current state is a joke and nvidia didn't get the memo, it's eerily similar to game(gimp)works, with only one of the 3 officially supported games making "decent" use of the technology. My final point can be seen in the complacent state that nvidia is relishing right now, the value has nothing on previous generations, they actually cared to do some simple math with the previous generations 30% more performance at a 40% higher price for your typical top tier "ti" card, so calling everyone that doesn't have 3k+ setups "sour grapes" is a pretty broad generalization. The majority of the turing lineup provides a significantly worse product compared to previous generations in a very objective manor.

 

 

By all means though, keep being nvidia's personal whale/cash cow, they'll care that much more for you ;)


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13 minutes ago, TheDankKoosh said:

The largest problems are very obvious, but you seem to ignore it blissfully.

 

First off, (this was done with pascal as well) the memory bus has been gimped just to save nvidia the trouble of putting a full 384 bit bus and 12gb vram on a supposedly fully fledged card, secondly RTX in its current state is a joke and nvidia didn't get the memo, it's eerily similar to game(gimp)works, with only one of the 3 officially supported games making "decent" use of the technology. My final point can be seen in the complacent state that nvidia is relishing right now, the value has nothing on previous generations, they actually cared to do some simple math with the previous generations 30% more performance at a 40% higher price for your typical top tier "ti" card, so calling everyone that doesn't have 3k+ setups "sour grapes" is a pretty broad generalization. The majority of the turing lineup provides a significantly worse product compared to previous generations in a very objective manor.

 

 

By all means though, keep being nvidia's personal whale/cash cow, they'll care that much more for you ;)

 

 

Hardly, I am not ignoring anything.

 

I own an RTX 2080TI, GTX 1080Ti and GTX 1080 and I use all 3 in different machines currently. FTW3's and FTW2.

 

I got the RTX 2080 Ti because it's MUCH faster than the GTX 1080Ti (And it is a lot faster) and I like to play with everything maxed out at 1440P. ;)

 

I do play 2 of the games that have RT support, SOTTR and METRO EXODUS and yes the RT works just fine.

 

But I also play a lot of other AAA games too.

 

 


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Theres a major difference in complaining about a product being out of budget and it being a bad product, Turing is both out of range and bad for alot of people, but those that complain solely because they can't afford it....sigh.

 

The price gouging from nvidia was expected after the crypto boom, but everything other than the 2080 ti was too expensive for its performance. They coulda made the 2080 599 and people would still pay 1200 for the 1080 ti, instead, most of the 2060-80s aren't selling, and it must be a pain for the partners as they can't seem to sell the 2070 under 500usd, there's no freaking way a 2070 is worth 500.


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