Nvidia be shitting bricks right about now or in a few months.

[Galion]

If AMD's rumored leaks are to be believed their RX 3080 8gb will be matching Nvidia's rtx 2070 8gb by 5-10% and at $300.

Nvidia's 2000 series may have painted themselves into a corner, with the price and ray tracing problems. 

Even if Nvidia can lower their prices I don't believe they can kill off $150 - $180 their retail price. 

AMD please don't disappoint us and make Nvidia shit bricks for once, 

 

 

[r2724r16]

2 minutes ago, Galion said:

If AMD's rumored leaks are to be believed their RX 3080 8gb will be matching Nvidia's rtx 2070 8gb by 5-10% and at $300.

Proof? Do you have any links?

[Galion]

1 minute ago, r2724r16 said:

Proof? Do you have any links?

And that's why it's called rumours just watch YouTube ryzen vids

[Princess Luna]

Still no competition for the GTX 1080 Ti

 

AdoredTV is not a reliable source for leaks, they'll hype AMD any day.

[Galion]

Just now, Princess Cadence said:

Still no competition for the GTX 1080 Ti

 

AdoredTV is not a reliable source for leaks, they'll hype AMD any day.

Yeah but he got rtx and Ryzen right

[i_build_nanosuits]

DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT....if the cards perform as well as they taunt it to be...it will not be 300$

Same goes for the rumored incredible Ryzen 3000 CPU's...if they beat intel (finally) they will be priced accordingly...AMD isn't dumb, and if one company need the money it's AMD.

[grimreeper132]

3 minutes ago, r2724r16 said:

Proof? Do you have any links?

I must say that it would be nice if this is true, but at the same time even these roumors show that AMD is at least a generation behind nividea as they are building a card to rival a 1080 which isn't even the top teir card from nividea, so despite it looking cheap and powerful, they will only get the lower end of the market, nividea still has the proformance side like AI, as their cards no matter how you look at it are faster.

 

 

Side note I also hate/love the new naming scheme, I hate it as not their next gen CPUs will have very similar names to their GPUs which will be a fucking pain, that being said the cards have a bigger number than nividea so they must be better  

 

References I found

 

https://wccftech.com/amd-rx-3080-3070-3060-navi-gpu-specs-prices-leaked-rtx-2070-gtx-1070-gtx-1060-challengers-at-249-199-129/

https://www.pcbuildersclub.com/en/2018/12/amd-navi-rx-3080-allegedly-as-fast-as-rtx-2070-costs-250-us/

[Galion]

2 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT....if the cards perform as well as they taunt it to be...it will not be 300$

Same goes for the rumored incredible Ryzen 3000 CPU's...if they beat intel (finally) they will be priced accordingly...AMD isn't dumb, and if one company need the money it's AMD.

Hahaha I agree they going to need every cent they earn to keep their graphics department alive but with 7nm they finally lowered their power draw

[r2724r16]

7 minutes ago, Galion said:

And that's why it's called rumours just watch YouTube ryzen vids

Even I could make a video any day saying whatever I want, rumours aren't always true. There's a rumour that AMD will release a 16c/32t 5GHz CPU for $500 and afaik, that's BS. 

 

And Nvidia won't be shitting bricks, especially at the high end of the market. 

[grimreeper132]

3 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT....if the cards perform as well as they taunt it to be...it will not be 300$

Same goes for the rumored incredible Ryzen 3000 CPU's...if they beat intel (finally) they will be priced accordingly...AMD isn't dumb, and if one company need the money it's AMD.

one thing here especially on the CPU side, I can maybe see them under pricing them as AMD still doesn't have significant market share, and by underpricing them they just make thier CPUs look even better, also note that intel has better IPC than AMD at the moment so intel might still be faster in single core proformance. Also you don't want to over price them as it's better to sell in volume than to sell just a few so they might still under price them in order to entise people to upgrade spending more money

That being said the ryzen 3000 series romours are too my eyes almost fantasys so I doubt that they are acurate yet, especially the core cound as this would mean the AM4 socket and the origional chipset would both be able to support 16 Cores and 32 threads which I don't think will be possible. Same time AMD could  of planned for this so I could be wrong

[Galion]

6 minutes ago, grimreeper132 said:

one thing here especially on the CPU side, I can maybe see them under pricing them as AMD still doesn't have significant market share, and by underpricing them they just make thier CPUs look even better, also note that intel has better IPC than AMD at the moment so intel might still be faster in single core proformance. Also you don't want to over price them as it's better to sell in volume than to sell just a few so they might still under price them in order to entise people to upgrade spending more money

That being said the ryzen 3000 series romours are too my eyes almost fantasys so I doubt that they are acurate yet, especially the core cound as this would mean the AM4 socket and the origional chipset would both be able to support 16 Cores and 32 threads which I don't think will be possible. Same time AMD could  of planned for this so I could be wrong

16 cores 32 threads on AM4 would be a dream I wouldn't mind buying a new board if it's real it make my engineering design studies and work so much faster and cheaper Intel x series sell for $9k

And as AMD's EPYIC die models shows the ryzen chips are the chiplet that failed the binning and made into the ryzen 3000 processors

 

[Mick Naughty]

Amd will forever be subpar. No bricks for nvidia. 

[Lathlaer]

Didn't AdoredTV have like, two sets of predictions for RTX so that whatever happened he couldn't be wrong?

 

I think I'm actually going to save all his Ryzen predictions and open up the folder in a year to check what was initially hyped and leaked vs. what we will be actually getting. Of course by that time he may post three other videos with "corrected" predictions so who knows

[MadmanRB]

24 minutes ago, Mick Naughty said:

Amd will forever be subpar. No bricks for nvidia. 

Are you sure?

 

Because at least in the CPU department AMD has actually been doing rather well, Ryzen is very competitive with Intel and while yes they still slip behind in gaming and single thread performance they still have mutli thread performance that come very close to Intel.

I mean if you look at some of the benchmarks between the Ryzen 7 2700 and the i9 9900k they actually square off nicely.

Sure you may not want a R7 2700 for gaming and yes the i7 9700k would actually be more ideal for this task but if the most you can afford for a processor is below $300 you could opt for the 2700 and would still be fine if one can find it for cheap.

Plus one forgets you still need a Z390 motherboard to take advantage of the i7 9700k and some of those are quitre pricy while for AMD ryzen overclocking you only need a updated B350 or B450 mobo.

So yeah there is still a lot of good price to performance here, sure it still loses out on gaming but its still not a bad option (though the Ryzen 5 2600 might be more ideal if you are trying to save a buck as that has surprisingly good gaming performance, again it still doesnt beat the i7 but damn is it a good value processor)

As for GPU's I really dont care if AMD will beat nvidia if comparing to the 1080Ti but the very least they can do is offer something close to the 1080.

I mean they almost did so with Vega

[Mick Naughty]

4 minutes ago, MadmanRB said:

Are you sure?

 

Because at least in the CPU department AMD has actually been doing rather well, Ryzen is very competitive with Intel and while yes they still slip behind in gaming and single thread performance they still have mutli thread performance that come very close to Intel.

I mean if you look at some of the benchmarks between the Ryzen 7 2700 and the i9 9900k they actually square off nicely.

Sure you may not want a R7 2700 for gaming and yes the i7 9700k would actually be more ideal for this task but if the most you can afford for a processor is below $300 you could opt for the 2700 and would still be fine if one can find it for cheap.

Plus one forgets you still need a Z390 motherboard to take advantage of the i7 9700k and some of those are quitre pricy while for AMD ryzen overclocking you only need a updated B350 or B450 mobo.

So yeah there is still a lot of good price to performance here, sure it still loses out on gaming but its still not a bad option (though the Ryzen 5 2600 might be more ideal if you are trying to save a buck as that has surprisingly good gaming performance, again it still doesnt beat the i7 but damn is it a good value processor)

As for GPU's I really dont care if AMD will beat nvidia if comparing to the 1080Ti but the very least they can do is offer something close to the 1080.

I mean they almost did so with Vega

Well the post isn’t about cpus, nor does intel have a gpu to compare. 

 

So for the context, yes I’m sure. 

[MadmanRB]

Well never say never, hey AMD may have a rabbit to pull out of its hat you dont know.

Granted its too early to tell and no benchmarks but if Vega is to go anything by it does look like its plausible.

The issues with Vega were mainly I think from AMD trying out HBM for the first time, as otherwise Vega was not a bad attempt it just didnt do as well as expected plus the cost of HBM is a factor on why it failed outside of its GTX1070 style performance.

I mean it does make very good integrated graphics so it wasnt a total waste, I know Vega has its flaws but it was a step in the right direction.

If anything i think Nvidia is having it worse with RTX, they are not doing as well as Nvidia planned and I think if things are not fully fixed here in the next year RTX may have the same fate as Vega.

[Velcade]

Until AMD can break into the 2080 - 2080ti (not including RT) performance catagory Nvidia doesn't have anything to worry about.

 

 

[Galion]

1 hour ago, Mick Naughty said:

Amd will forever be subpar. No bricks for nvidia. 

LOL the. Thing about. Fate is she loves to screw with ppl like you, once you think you know something. 

Bang here comes fate, AMD does have a card to match the 1080ti but they chose to use it in engineering and not gaming, it's not Tha amd is subpar but amd is smarter by attacking the engineering market rather then the gaming. 

Gaming is but 18% of the cpu or gpu market, they rather sell in bulk then rather 1 buyer at a time and AMD  knows that 60% of gamers go for low to mid range cards. 

As a CEO of the company he has to see the big picture just as amd did with their EPYIC  launch

Best dies for EPYIC then bin the lower binned chiplet into ryzen so as to not waste the materals

Same with NAVI  the best dies for NAVI 60/70 then bin the rest into what you see 3060,3070,3080

[Galion]

13 minutes ago, MadmanRB said:

Well never say never, hey AMD may have a rabbit to pull out of its hat you dont know.

Granted its too early to tell and no benchmarks but if Vega is to go anything by it does look like its plausible.

The issues with Vega were mainly I think from AMD trying out HBM for the first time, as otherwise Vega was not a bad attempt it just didnt do as well as expected plus the cost of HBM is a factor on why it failed outside of its GTX1070 style performance.

I mean it does make very good integrated graphics so it wasnt a total waste, I know Vega has its flaws but it was a step in the right direction.

If anything i think Nvidia is having it worse with RTX, they are not doing as well as Nvidia planned and I think if things are not fully fixed here in the next year RTX may have the same fate as Vega.

Regarding HBM2 AMD's has realized that it's more suitable for other use rather then gaming and has chosen to reserve it for the workload that is more suited

[MadmanRB]

1 minute ago, Galion said:

Regarding HBM2 AMD's has realized that it's more suitable for other use rather then gaming and has chosen to reserve it for the workload that is more suited

Indeed, I mean i cant really fault AMD here too much, sure again Vega wasnt the best they could do but I see Vega still a good option for integrated GPU's and is still a step up from the old radeons.

[ShadowChaser]

Hopefully 7nm will be what pushes AMD into the high end. Fingers crossed. I'd hate to be the guy that pays nvidia $1000 for something I can get for $500 from AMD.

For gaming and professional purposes unless AMD is able to beat nvidia though, I don't see how they are able to gain back market share. Nvidia is dominant because they hold the high end and programs have been designed to use their gpus specifically. Of course, now you have microsoft's ray tracing api which will hopefully be not complete garbage in terms of performance.

 

But if history is anything to go by, AMD has had competing products across nearly all generations, just at a slightly worse power draw and only at the mid range or lower. Who knows? Granted, their CPU and GPU departments are separate but maybe they'll be able to pull off Navi as they did with Ryzen  

[Galion]

1 minute ago, MadmanRB said:

Indeed, I mean i cant really fault AMD here too much, sure again Vega wasnt the best they could do but I see Vega still a good option for integrated GPU's and is still a step up from the old radeons.

Actually they didn't lose, the problem is everyone went overclocking and not under volting I learned from my cousin that my uncle's vega 56 competes with a GTX 1070 without even overclocking by undervolting and letting it boost on it's own. 

[Mick Naughty]

14 minutes ago, Galion said:

LOL the. Thing about. Fate is she loves to screw with ppl like you, once you think you know something. 

Bang here comes fate, AMD does have a card to match the 1080ti but they chose to use it in engineering and not gaming, it's not Tha amd is subpar but amd is smarter by attacking the engineering market rather then the gaming. 

Gaming is but 18% of the cpu or gpu market, they rather sell in bulk then rather 1 buyer at a time and AMD  knows that 60% of gamers go for low to mid range cards. 

As a CEO of the company he has to see the big picture just as amd did with their EPYIC  launch

Best dies for EPYIC then bin the lower binned chiplet into ryzen so as to not waste the materals

Same with NAVI  the best dies for NAVI 60/70 then bin the rest into what you see 3060,3070,3080

I don’t really care about fate or what amd has to offer. I don’t go buying every single piece of hardware. So all the new stuff from any company is the same to me. Fate is also a dumb context as I’m not leaving anything to it so it has nothing to do with people like me. 

[TahoeDust]

If the rumor or best case scenario is the AMD will come out with a GPU that will compete with a 2070/1080 next year, that is sad.  A new GPU at the top of the product stack competing with the competitions 2 year old 2nd best card is nothing to brag or be happy about.

[Fasauceome]

17 minutes ago, TahoeDust said:

If the rumor or best case scenario is the AMD will come out with a GPU that will compete with a 2070/1080 next year, that is sad.  A new GPU at the top of the product stack competing with the competitions 2 year old 2nd best card is nothing to brag or be happy about.

That or just fix Vega, which is fine with less voltage. They had competition but it was rushed.