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Fellow air heads, why do you blow instead of pump?

Arct1c0n

14 year PC builder here that's seen a lot since the early 90's of PC gaming when I started as a  young tween. I've done a variety of air cooling setups on tons of different equipment over the years and dabbled in water cooling back in 2002 back when Danger Den was the major player and you actually had to "build" your water cooling from scratch. None of this premade, ready to run "AIO" closed loop noob stuff :P

 

Anyway, I still prefer sticking with Air cooling for my own personal needs and desires but I'm curious as to reasons other fellow members of the air club continue to blow our heat way rather then pump it off.  Some of the poll selections are my reasons of sticking with air cooling, but what is the major reason you continue to cool your framerates away in this day and age?

 

 

Below is my newest rig setup again, like its predecessors beyond the one Danger Den Athlon XP water cooled rig, all air cooled

 

 

Its sooo big! And that "IS" what she said!  :D

 

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I just prefer how it looks. I love how my Dark Rock Pro 3 looks

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i don't #H100i!!!

 

Out troll

 

I just prefer how it looks. I love how my Dark Rock Pro 3 looks

 

Useless without pics!

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Optimising fan airflow is something I love doing, i'v spent hours testing different configurations :P

 

At first it was upfront cost, but later i noticed I kinda like the quiet hum my pc makes. 

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I personally prefer the look and performance of watercooling, but I have to admit that future upgradability  is a massive benefit of air cooling. I don't even want to think about the day I upgrade and have to rip apart all of my loop without spilling liquid. 

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-snip-

 

This poll/forum section is for air coolers only, so you are trolling by commenting.

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i have a fx 6300 with 95w tdp so no use for water cooling. and no money for custom loop also isnt the noctua dh-15 better than pretty much all AIO coolers

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I'm personally a water guy but I recommend air to friends and people building systems just because it's easier and "safer" than water solutions. Water is for those who know they want water.

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None of the above. My processor idles at 10*C on average, and has only recently ever gotten above 40*C. Very basic setup too, 200mm intake at the front, 110mm all copper heatsink, and two 120mm at the rear as exhaust (one at the rear, one on top at the rear).

FX-8350 | GA-990FXA-UD3 | G.SKILL 2x8GB 1600MHz | 1TB WD RE4 | CM Hyper 212 EVO | MSI R9 290x Lightning | Corsair AX860i | Silverstone FT05B-W

Pentium G3258 | MSI Z97 PC Mate | G.SKILL 4x4GB 1066MHz | 500GB Samsung 2.5" | Stock cooler | Pending GPU | EVGA 500B | Antec DF-35

GoPro Hero 3 Silver | Netgear R7000 Nighthawk with DD-WRT | HP Officejet Pro 8610 | Canon iP110 | AudioTechnica ATR2500 USB

Downdraft cooler for mITX board (new build) | Desk mount mic stand | Pop filter | Anti-vibration mount for microphone | mITX case | 3rd monitor (matching existing 23.1" | Intel Core i7-4790K (for mITX build)

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Well it's not finished yet, but when my rig is done it's going to be air cooled, because the case being used suits air cooling the most, so I can passively cool my cpu and probably still get a moderate overclock as well. However, at some point I'll have a crack at a custom loop, but not for a while yet as its too expensive.

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I thought I was wrong, So I posted a topic and asked the commnunity bout it. And also, your room cant be a 75. Pretty sure 18C is a big mistake. And age isint everything. I know more then you know now.

 

I'll take the first step here, sorry for misreading some lines in your post. My reply of "Also, thanks for being an ass and referring to someone who was respecting you as a twelve year old. As a fellow technician/enthusiast and LTT forums member, I expected more than disrespect." was in the thinking that you were calling me twelve. So sorry for calling you an ass. Again, I misread a few lines in your post. It was rash and I was a wee bit heated for you not trusting my claims with the photos I attached.

 

Also, don't make bold claims like yourself knowing more than me. We both are sitting on an equal level of knowledge at this point IN THIS TOPIC. As far as other topics, I'm sure I could kill you with knowledge, and you could do the same to me. You simple knew more than me in one topic, not everything.

 

Lets call a truce and agree to no longer blow up other people's notifications.

FX-8350 | GA-990FXA-UD3 | G.SKILL 2x8GB 1600MHz | 1TB WD RE4 | CM Hyper 212 EVO | MSI R9 290x Lightning | Corsair AX860i | Silverstone FT05B-W

Pentium G3258 | MSI Z97 PC Mate | G.SKILL 4x4GB 1066MHz | 500GB Samsung 2.5" | Stock cooler | Pending GPU | EVGA 500B | Antec DF-35

GoPro Hero 3 Silver | Netgear R7000 Nighthawk with DD-WRT | HP Officejet Pro 8610 | Canon iP110 | AudioTechnica ATR2500 USB

Downdraft cooler for mITX board (new build) | Desk mount mic stand | Pop filter | Anti-vibration mount for microphone | mITX case | 3rd monitor (matching existing 23.1" | Intel Core i7-4790K (for mITX build)

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That was my intention. Sorry for the disturbance @Arct1c0n.

FX-8350 | GA-990FXA-UD3 | G.SKILL 2x8GB 1600MHz | 1TB WD RE4 | CM Hyper 212 EVO | MSI R9 290x Lightning | Corsair AX860i | Silverstone FT05B-W

Pentium G3258 | MSI Z97 PC Mate | G.SKILL 4x4GB 1066MHz | 500GB Samsung 2.5" | Stock cooler | Pending GPU | EVGA 500B | Antec DF-35

GoPro Hero 3 Silver | Netgear R7000 Nighthawk with DD-WRT | HP Officejet Pro 8610 | Canon iP110 | AudioTechnica ATR2500 USB

Downdraft cooler for mITX board (new build) | Desk mount mic stand | Pop filter | Anti-vibration mount for microphone | mITX case | 3rd monitor (matching existing 23.1" | Intel Core i7-4790K (for mITX build)

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You're missing an option in the poll...Water cooling isn't worth it

 

Air coolers are effective enough to cool the significantly more efficient parts we have nowadays. It's hard to justify the price at most levels

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You're missing an option in the poll...Water cooling isn't worth it

 

Air coolers are effective enough to cool the significantly more efficient parts we have nowadays. It's hard to justify the price at most levels

 

I've always wanted to do a custom loop, but $200 vs $45, for an extra few degrees? Not worth it. As we saw with my argument with @CoolaxGaming, my CPU is idling at as cool as scientifically possible without nitrogen cooling. And under load, ZiftrCoin mining was the first thing to ever bring this processor above 40-45*C. No need to spend that extra money right now, until I care to go even more enthusiast with a custom loop just for aesthetics.

FX-8350 | GA-990FXA-UD3 | G.SKILL 2x8GB 1600MHz | 1TB WD RE4 | CM Hyper 212 EVO | MSI R9 290x Lightning | Corsair AX860i | Silverstone FT05B-W

Pentium G3258 | MSI Z97 PC Mate | G.SKILL 4x4GB 1066MHz | 500GB Samsung 2.5" | Stock cooler | Pending GPU | EVGA 500B | Antec DF-35

GoPro Hero 3 Silver | Netgear R7000 Nighthawk with DD-WRT | HP Officejet Pro 8610 | Canon iP110 | AudioTechnica ATR2500 USB

Downdraft cooler for mITX board (new build) | Desk mount mic stand | Pop filter | Anti-vibration mount for microphone | mITX case | 3rd monitor (matching existing 23.1" | Intel Core i7-4790K (for mITX build)

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I like air cooling for the simplicity and functionality. Plus some coolers look pretty damn good like the V8.

 

But water cooling is damn sexy and when done right can be extremely effective. For a budget or moderate performance build it is not worth using water, but when you're overclocking like a fiend it is your best resort.

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I like air cooling for the simplicity and functionality. Plus some coolers look pretty damn good like the V8.

 

 

Ironic cause the V8 does look cool, but doesn't cool worth shit

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Ironic cause the V8 does look cool, but doesn't cool worth shit

 

Some people do like the form over function. I used the older V6 a while back on a 2500K and achieved some very stable and cool overclocks with it in an Antec P182.

 

Personally I love the Hyper 212 Evo. It has kept my QX9650 and now my 4670K nice and comfortable but with the clock speeds I'm hunting for I need my water cooling loop running soon lol.

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The Rainbow X58: i7 975 Extreme Edition @4.2GHz, Asus Sabertooth X58, 6x2GB Mushkin Redline DDR3-1600 @2000MHz, SP 256GB Gen3 M.2 w/ Sabrent M.2 to PCI-E, Inno3D GTX 580 x2 SLI w/ Heatkiller waterblocks, Custom loop in NZXT Phantom White, Corsair XR7 360 rad hanging off the rear end, 360 slim rad up top. RGB everywhere.

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You're missing an option in the poll...Water cooling isn't worth it

Air coolers are effective enough to cool the significantly more efficient parts we have nowadays. It's hard to justify the price at most levels

You wouldn't vote in the first place then

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I don't.

Custom loop ftw

n0ah1897, on 05 Mar 2014 - 2:08 PM, said:  "Computers are like girls. It's whats in the inside that matters.  I don't know about you, but I like my girls like I like my cases. Just as beautiful on the inside as the outside."

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Both are air cooled to a degree.

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As much as I'd like to say upgradeability, in truth I don't upgrade that often.

So being a student upfront cost dictates majority of my choices.

Stock coolers - The sound of bare minimum

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