Nintendos Next Console May Get A Processor From AMD According to SweClockers.com

[Johannes_Lazor]

Im making a translation for you guys from Swedish to English, It may not be perfect But it is better than what google translate would do.
 

 

The Game console Wii U were not the success Nintendo were hoping for. Now the company is said to be on track with a sequel, Which may have hardware that is very similar to the Xbox One and Playstation 4.


Despite a years head start, Nintendos lates Game console Wii U have been overtaken by the Xbox one and the Playstation 4, Which often comes down to the initially weak game slection. As this has improved even the sales for Hardware recieved a boost, But the total are still far behind from the original forecasts.

Nintendos hopes for the Wii U were that more game developers would unite behind the console more than on the previous generations, But the hardware has been widely condemned as flawed, In particular, The choice of processor from IBM. Meanwhile, Nintendo has long hinted that they are already well on the way to a new generation.

Since the Gamecube, Nintendo has relied on a GPU from ATI/AMD So it is expected to be the case the next generation. However, What is unclear is whether the company will choose a more powerful processor from IBM or AMD.

If Nintendo chooses a custom processor from AMD the sequel to the Wii U be more architecturally similar to the Xbox One and Playstation 4. Even if the performance is on a similar level, It would atleast in theory lead to a relatively easy matter to port the game between the three consoles and Nintendo enables better gaming support for third party developers.

The launch is believed to take place by the end of 2016, Only four years after the Wii U released in November  2012. It is a unusually short generation cycle, But The original Xbox was introduced in november 2001 and was replaced about 4 years later by the Xbox 360.

Source: http://www.sweclockers.com/nyhet/19798-nintendos-uppfoljare-till-wii-u-kan-fa-systemprocessor-fran-amd

And Sweclockers used the chinese site Expreview - http://www.expreview.com/37883.html as their source.

[Mo5]

Still the only console that runs most games at 1080p 60FPS

[Hatsune Miku 「 」]

NOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Long Live Japan! Why AMD?!

[GoodBytes]

Repost.

http://www.linustechtips.com/main/topic/273759-its-official-new-console-is-nintendo/

And as discuss it is only speculations. That is like Microsoft saying they are working Windows 11, when Windows 10 was just released... its like obviously.

R&D takes time. It will take several years.

[Johannes_Lazor]

NOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Long Live Japan! Why AMD?!

Why not AMD? The Xbox 360 and Playstation 4 are using the same Jaguar architecture from AMD,

the Wii U has a Tri-Core IBM PowerPC "Espresso" clocked at 1.24 Ghz. Which originates in the Us if im not mistaken.

[Johannes_Lazor]

Repost.

http://www.linustechtips.com/main/topic/273759-its-official-new-console-is-nintendo/

And as discuss it is only speculations. That is like Microsoft saying they are working Windows 11, when Windows 10 was just released... its like obviously.

R&D takes time. It will take several years.

The search function seems to be gone for me and i missed that topic since the name of the topic only specified a new console, Not that AMD had anything to do with it.

But my topic is also more centered around the hardware, Master Disasters topic were more centered around the games.

But my topic should be deleted since it is still largely a repost.

[Prokart2000]

Why not AMD? The Xbox 360 and Playstation 4 are using the same Jaguar architecture from AMD,

the Wii U has a Tri-Core IBM PowerPC "Espresso" clocked at 1.24 Ghz. Which originates in the Us if im not mistaken.

xbox one*

[Johannes_Lazor]

xbox one*

Man.. I should stop trying to think at several things at the same time.. It never ends in a good way..

[rafbanaan]

Still the only console that runs most games at 1080p 60FPS

 

If you give every game the same grfx style, sure. Every console can do it that way.

[qwertywarrior]

if they think the problem was weak hardware then they are IDIOTS

it was the games. they should have had it ready and not released the console too early

and not to mention the FAIL ads

[RatedBlam]

I think Nintendo has used ATI/AMD graphics since the gamecube.

So quite natural for Nintendo to go with AMD.

[StingBull]

NOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Long Live Japan! Why AMD?!

Japanese consoles have been using American chip tech since N64 days.

[Sauron]

if they think the problem was weak hardware then they are IDIOTS

it was the games. they should have had it ready and not released the console too early

and not to mention the FAIL ads

 

That's true, the marketing could have been a lot better. That said, better hardware couldn't hurt... although to be honest I prefer getting a REALLY cheap console like the wii u and be content that new games keep coming out for it than dishing out 400$ + sub fee for what is still underpowered hardware even if not quite as much.

[Master Disaster]

The search function seems to be gone for me and i missed that topic since the name of the topic only specified a new console, Not that AMD had anything to do with it.

But my topic is also more centered around the hardware, Master Disasters topic were more centered around the games.

But my topic should be deleted since it is still largely a repost.

Nah, mods can do a merge and keep both

[StingBull]

Nintendo will probably make a console that is 1,5 times higher speced than Xbone, exactly how Wii U is about 1,5 times Xbox 360. They'll finally be ahead in term of specs for once since I don't see Sony making another PlayStation after this and Microsoft might just sell of the Xbox division or fuse it with Windows and focus on Windows gaming.

[Toddwjp]

Well and is good at lower price points, perhaps if they put a decent cooling unit in the console they can get some really great performance

[Briggsy]

Man.. I should stop trying to think at several things at the same time.. It never ends in a good way..

 

meh, a stupidly named console is just asking to be referenced incorrectly.

[terrytek]

They should go Nvidia this time, just to make AMD angry.

[HippY]

They should go Nvidia this time, just to make AMD angry.

aaand for why?

 

Business is not run by teenagers who ran on Monster and fanboyism, they are made by cold facts, and the fact is, AMD can make pretty good APUs for cheap. See Xbox one and PS4 that has decent power, compared that they run a chip that cost $100, houses a 270/X and a 8 core CPU. 

 

Nvidia could provide maxwell for GPU, but then they need to source a CPU, and it means 2 companies, 2 licence fees, higher price for something that does not mean to be a supercomputer

[GoodBytes]

They should go Nvidia this time, just to make AMD angry.

Nvidia charges a lot for their GPUs. Nintendo did talk with Nvidia for the 3DS, where they wanted the Tegra (possibly Tegra 3 at the time), but it fell through, probably due to price.

The big reason is that Nvidia is not really interested in console. Contrary to what it may look like, the hardware partners don't make much money. Its great advertisement, in terms of putting the name out, but in terms of making money, it's tiny, as console manufactures usually wants to minimize cost as they sale the console at a loss.

ATi, and now, AMD have a very long relationship with Nintendo, and AMD needs all the advertisement, and any financial help it can get. Also, As AMD have something that Nvidia don't, and that is how to make things cheaper. Whether be special price from Global Foundaries, or engineering design that, while it might not get you the best performance in the world, can make it affordable, and that attract console manufactures. In addition, as HippY mentioned, AMD have APUs. Nvidia, beside for it's Tegra series, doesn't. It's cheaper and better for Nintendo to go that path, than buying a CPU (especially Intel CPUs, which they don't care one bit about consoles. They name is plastered on everything already, and they don't need the money), and a GPU, unless they continue with IBM for their low cost, low powered PowerPC line.

[Techhog]

if they think the problem was weak hardware then they are IDIOTS

it was the games. they should have had it ready and not released the console too early

and not to mention the FAIL ads

And what was the main reason it couldn't get 3rd party support?

[Techhog]

NOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Long Live Japan! Why AMD?!

The fanboyism in this forum is ridiculous.

[GoodBytes]

if they think the problem was weak hardware then they are IDIOTS

it was the games. they should have had it ready and not released the console too early

and not to mention the FAIL ads

Nintendo has learned a lot. But they are things that won't change.

-> Nintendo tried to replicate the Wii success. And anyone in the right mind would have done the same. While it may seam obvious to some now, back then, what Nintendo did by attracting casual gamers, and even converted many to be actual gamers, was a first. For people that stayed casual gamers, Nintendo has realized that these people are not loyal, and they see video games like a movie. "I am done with it, give me something totally new" is the attitude that many of the casual gamers have. They are not like "real/hardcore" gamers where they seek for entertainment, they fall into passion on a game, they appreciate the art style, the story, the game design, the music, everything!. It's a passion in the art of video games.

It's just a different mentality. Casual gamers needs to pushed via advertisement for them to get a game. Hardcore gamers will seek the information on a new version of Halo, Metal Gear Solid, Mass Effect, Zelda or even Mario, they don't need to see ads everywhere to be informed about it. So, they could not replicate its success.

-> Nintendo strategy didn't work, they fell into the chicken and the egg situation. Nintendo miss underestimates the time it takes to make HD titles, especially with the attention of details that Nintendo does. I don't what you say, but the depth of field of Pikmin 3 is the best I ever seen in a video game. The detail of interaction with elements in level in Super Mario 3D world, is impressive. Everything seams lively. Hit a tree in a snow level, the snow on the tree will fall, and so on with everything. There is nothing static.

Beside the delays, the idea to release the console without Nintendo big title, was to allow third party games to shine and sale. Sadly, because there is no exclusive games, people didn't buy it, to buy the third party games. The consumers saw little values in the third party games. There was no "must have" title.

-> EA trouble. Nintendo was working with EA for assistance in developing it's online infrastructure, because the Wii was using GameSpy network (that is why we had the awful friends code with the Wii). EA processed much later on in Nintendo development to push them for implement Origin (all this is speculation, by the way, the facts aren't clear at the moment of writing). Rumors even say that EA wanted Nintendo to run Origin, on their own server, and EA will manage it all, and Nintendo would get a cut. Nintendo refusal to the, let's be honest, if any of that is true, is awful (that is not the first time companies tried to screwed with Nintendo: Sony and Phillips as examples), EA went into a tantrum, and canceled all WiiU titles development, releasing unfinished products, over priced, and blaming it all on the console low sales, their low sales, and the console too slow performance, despite having no other next gen console, and even paying it's devs to force bash Nintendo console. A funny split that anyone under EA arms bashed Nintendo, and everyone else said how it was fine or great.

Regardless, Nintendo lost a major third party developer.

-> Bad marketing. I don't know why, but it looked like Nintendo didn't know how to market this console. Even after the shift to hardcore gaming fairly early on, seeing what we all learned from casual gamers, they could not do it.

-> Bad E3's. "We are very short in time, we have a lot to say.. so let me you everyone for the 50th time, for 15min about Nintendo Facebook page, twitter, and E3 web site". I don't know what to say. They were bad. With Nintendo Direct approach, it's all well organized, the message is clear, and everything is put out, complete with hype built-up. Going out of E3 was a good move for the company, as clearly they didn't have the expertise in hosting such event. Reggis and Miyamoto are great entertainers, but sadly it's not enough to hold up the event.

Another cool thing that Nintendo has learned is the power of indies. Compared to other console, especially before with Nintendo, today getting a dev kit console from Nintendo is easy and cheap. All you need is a small office, or home with security alarm and a safe to store the dev console when not in use, and 2000-2500$. Or, a kick ass kickstarter project which Nintendo believes you can actually deliver the game. No more previous game experience requirement, phone support team with x amount of employees, no more minimum amount of profit per year for x numbers of years, office only, and all that. WiiU has a nice collection of high quality indie games. Now, it doesn't stop there. Many people don't know about the new easier rules of Nintendo, and Nintendo Japan is still not perfectly fine with the idea. They have A LOT to learn more, like contacting indie devs, all of them, and inform them, provide incentives, and so on, to make their game for their console. But it is an excellent step in the right direction, and hopefully Nintendo continues for the future consoles.

[Techhog]

-> Nintendo strategy didn't work, they fell into the chicken and the egg situation. Nintendo miss underestimates the time it takes to make HD titles, especially with the attention of details that Nintendo does. I don't what you say, but the depth of field of Pikmin 3 is the best I ever seen in a video game. The detail of interaction with elements in level in Super Mario 3D world, is impressive. Everything seams lively. Hit a tree in a snow level, the snow on the tree will fall, and so on with everything. There is nothing static.

Is our children learning?

 

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[7850OC]

AMD is the king of the consoles markets (and nintendo know that)