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I5-9600k vs Ryzen 7 2700x

I'm looking for a new CPU and the price of upgrading to Ryzen 7 2700x is nearly identical to I5-9600k. I'm mostly going to use the system for gaming and will be overclocking so I want to know, which is better. Since I5-9600k is only weaker for its lower core count and most games usually prefer more powerful cores, is the Ryzen core better than the I5. For cooling, I'll use the Dark rock TF which is enough for the I5 processor but will it be enough for the Ryzen processor. Also which popular games use 6 or 8 cores and could utilise the entirety of these cores.

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7 minutes ago, Emu said:

I'm mostly going to use the system for gaming and will be overclocking so I want to know, which is better.

Then get the i5 9600K, it has a higher single core speed than the R7 2700X.

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intel is better if you just want to game, but it can do other stuff if you want to down the line

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1 hour ago, Emu said:

I'm looking for a new CPU and the price of upgrading to Ryzen 7 2700x is nearly identical to I5-9600k. I'm mostly going to use the system for gaming and will be overclocking so I want to know, which is better. Since I5-9600k is only weaker for its lower core count and most games usually prefer more powerful cores, is the Ryzen core better than the I5. For cooling, I'll use the Dark rock TF which is enough for the I5 processor but will it be enough for the Ryzen processor. Also which popular games use 6 or 8 cores and could utilise the entirety of these cores.

the 9600k will be better for gaming than the 2700x, but no1 buys them, most consoles/devs will program for 8 cores, so i'd recommend a 2700x or a 9700k.

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What are the rest of your system specifications? If your graphics card is mid range ( RX 580/GTX 1060/GTX 1070 ) I'd honestly probably just go with the 2700X, simply because it will not bottleneck those graphics cards in the slightest, and will also have a lot more mutlithreaded potential as well. If it's a higher end graphics card, ( 1080 + ), I'd say get the i5 and be done with it. Either one of these processors will be excellent for gaming but the i5 will have the edge. If you do other things like emulation though, for instance, you may see additional gains with the i5, as emulators tend to prefer fewer, more highly clocked cores.

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If your gaming on a high refresh rate 1080p monitor then go with Intel.  If you're gaming at 1440p or 4k then I think you'll be happy with Ryzen, but in older and some current games you will be missing out on some frames.  

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1 hour ago, xg32 said:

the 9600k will be better for gaming than the 2700x, but no1 buys them, most consoles/devs will program for 8 cores, so i'd recommend a 2700x or a 9700k.

Are there any examples of games that utilize 8 cores already, since most games still use 4 cores?

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consider the fact that the 8600k just a little bit ago dropped to $240 usd. Overclocking just a little bit will get you the same gaming performance as an 8600k. They're essentially the same cpu anyway. 

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1 hour ago, Emu said:

Are there any examples of games that utilize 8 cores already, since most games still use 4 cores?

mhw, bo4, aco, acu, bfv, sotr, thats just current titles i can think of, if you are buying new, get a 6/12 minimum. Since there are still future games to account for.

 

one of my friends tossed out his 8600k at 5.1ghz for a delidded 8700k when he saw the difference in mhw (on top of hitting 100% usage using a gigabit connection on steam, need that hyperthreading or 8cores in 2018.

 

 

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9 hours ago, mxk. said:

consider the fact that the 8600k just a little bit ago dropped to $240 usd. Overclocking just a little bit will get you the same gaming performance as an 8600k. They're essentially the same cpu anyway. 

EU prices are weird and the difference in price is like 5€ between those two, while between 9600k and 2700x it's about 25€.

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2 minutes ago, Emu said:

EU prices are weird and the difference in price is like 5€ between those two, while between 9600k and 2700x it's about 25€.

The 2700x and 9600k perform pretty much the same out of the box for gaming, which is what you said you were looking for. 

Since your looking to just game, I would say that whichever cpu out of the 8600k, 9600k, and 2700x is cheapest, buy. 

Keep in mind that for the 9600k that z390 motherboards are more money. 

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On factor to bear in mind, when intels next chip series arrives we've no idea if it will be backwards compatible with the current motherboards. It might even be an all new socket. AMD are maintaining compatibility till 2020 and thus 4th gen ryzen. So if you think you might do a mid life upgrade in the next 3 years or so the ryzen is the better choice. Though in that case i'd pair it with 3200mhz memory as thats what 3rd generation ryzen is expected to jump to.

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if you won't overclock the i5 9600K then get the locked i7 8700 on a b360 instead since it has identical turbo boost settings of the i5 9600K but has more cache and hyper-threading.

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On 11/11/2018 at 4:10 AM, Emu said:

I'm looking for a new CPU and the price of upgrading to Ryzen 7 2700x is nearly identical to I5-9600k. I'm mostly going to use the system for gaming and will be overclocking so I want to know, which is better. Since I5-9600k is only weaker for its lower core count and most games usually prefer more powerful cores, is the Ryzen core better than the I5. For cooling, I'll use the Dark rock TF which is enough for the I5 processor but will it be enough for the Ryzen processor. Also which popular games use 6 or 8 cores and could utilise the entirety of these cores.

Hey guys i am on the same boat as well, im currently rocking a kaby lake system and looking to upgrade my platform, just not sure if i should go intel or amd atm, i don't have a budget, i can go overboard if i want to but heres a catch, i already have a decent gpu, ram kit, case, disk space,powersupply, i am planning to reuse that, im just planning to get rid of my current cpu and cooler and mobo, what should i get? i have my eye on the intel core i5 9600k or the r5 2600, in australia these chip are dragiscally different when it comes to prices the 9600 is hovering around $368 mark and the 2600 is around $300 mark and the motherboards are really expensive here as well 

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On 11/10/2018 at 9:40 AM, Emu said:

I'm looking for a new CPU and the price of upgrading to Ryzen 7 2700x is nearly identical to I5-9600k. I'm mostly going to use the system for gaming and will be overclocking so I want to know, which is better. Since I5-9600k is only weaker for its lower core count and most games usually prefer more powerful cores, is the Ryzen core better than the I5. For cooling, I'll use the Dark rock TF which is enough for the I5 processor but will it be enough for the Ryzen processor. Also which popular games use 6 or 8 cores and could utilise the entirety of these cores.

I would get a 3600 when it drops only 199 and the IPC is said to be very good

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