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Weird Flex, But Okay - Samsung rolls out Infinity Flex Display, Native Google Support Annouced

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By rcmaehl
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1 minute ago, BuckGup said:

But then it wouldn't be foldable lol. As we could make a phone with that tech using LCD, OLED, or anything. It's just a DS at that point

Why wouldn't the phone still fold?  It would still be able to fold at the hinge.

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4 hours ago, BuckGup said:

It can't be because that would break the screen. There is always going to be a weird curved spine

How do you figure? If it's flexible then I don't see why it couldn't. 

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3 minutes ago, Velcade said:

Why wouldn't the phone still fold?  It would still be able to fold at the hinge.

I am saying being called a foldable as the screen isn't folding at all. Which is the impressive thing as flip phones have been around for forever 

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1 minute ago, Brooksie359 said:

How do you figure? If it's flexible then I don't see why it couldn't. 

I would imagine it would cause too much of a pinch point. You can roll paper and return it to normal but if you fold it and put a crease it will have that crease in it forever.

It would be something like this.

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2 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

I am saying being called a foldable as the screen isn't folding at all. Which is the impressive thing as flip phones have been around for forever 

Except flip phones haven't had two screens meet up to create a seamless edge.

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1 minute ago, BuckGup said:

I would imagine it would cause too much of a pinch point. You can roll paper and return it to normal but if you fold it and put a crease it will have that crease in it forever.

It would be something like this.

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Do you think this will be like paper? Why do you think they have had to spend time of money on research to do just that? If you fold an elastic material it return to normal. If you have ever heard of shape memory materials you would know that it is 100% possible to do. I would not be surprised if this was some variant of shape memory polymer. 

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38 minutes ago, Velcade said:

Except flip phones haven't had two screens meet up to create a seamless edge.

I know I was commenting on what you said if they had two screens meet at the point where it folds.

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34 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

Do you think this will be like paper? Why do you think they have had to spend time of money on research to do just that? If you fold an elastic material it return to normal. If you have ever heard of shape memory materials you would know that it is 100% possible to do. I would not be surprised if this was some variant of shape memory polymer. 

Because you can't just defy physics. With the current foldable phones on the market and watching the Samsung video you can see the bend on the fold. 

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14 hours ago, Noctus said:

Note Edge was a fantastic phone !!

It was a fine phone, I actually used it for a while, but the curve was absolutely a gimmick.  I think I can count the number of times I launched an edge shortcut on one hand.

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1 minute ago, BuckGup said:

Because you can't just defy physics. With the current foldable phones on the market and watching the Samsung video you can see the bend on the fold. 

I guess shape memory materials defy physics then if that's what you think. You can bend and fold nitinol into crazy shapes yet it will return to its original shape when heated. There are some that will do similar things when electricity is ran through them. You have a very narrow minded view of what is possible. 

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5 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

I guess shape memory materials defy physics then if that's what you think. You can bend and fold nitinol into crazy shapes yet it will return to its original shape when heated. There are some that will do similar things when electricity is ran through them. You have a very narrow minded view of what is possible. 

I know what memory metals are. This is a screen though. There are many materials needed to make a screen function. I am not saying it is impossible but don't expect to it to fold perfectly flat. It needs a small amount of curve 

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2 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

I know what memory metals are. This is a screen though. There are many materials needed to make a screen function. I am not saying it is impossible but don't expect to it to fold perfectly flat. It needs a small amount of curve 

Says who? I honestly think both possibilities are likely. 

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17 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

Says who? I honestly think both possibilities are likely. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexible_display

 

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24 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

Yeah I still don't see your point. It is quite possible that it will go completely flat.

Sure if it can go completely flat it will be left bent though. Look at every single demo from 2013 to now. Never once do they show it ever being bent completely flat

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2 hours ago, Commodus said:

It was a fine phone, I actually used it for a while, but the curve was absolutely a gimmick.  I think I can count the number of times I launched an edge shortcut on one hand.

Nah, i used it on a daily basis. Hardly a gimmick. Functionality was pretty good.

 

*edit*: i use my phone primarily with my right hand, so swiping right from the edge screen for messages, spotify controls etc etc meant it felt fluid and natural, not gimmicky to me.

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4 hours ago, Brooksie359 said:

I honestly don't get everyone's obsession with bezels. It's people like you who caused the monstrosity that is the notch. 

Let me get things straight.

 

Firstly, I'm a huge advocate for 16:9 and big bezels. Samsung is trying to choke the fuck out of everyone with their 720p "Infinity" display on the latest J8 (2018) instead of having a standard 1080p display they used in the last year's J7. 359137561_ScreenShot2018-11-08at10_50_22PM.png.559bad919a32fee874cab757f5343138.png

 

So their goal is to have tiny bezels as a standard, even while putting a 720p display on a sub-300 euro phone (like what the hell Samsung?)

 

Conveniently second is the Infinity Flex prototype.1575627095_ScreenShot2018-11-08at10_41_53PM.png.8f2f10440e3976342eb42d8c2dad7bb0.png

 

I don't think this is bezelless obsession. It's more me saying there's lots of room for improvement. And there will be (I hope)

 

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15 hours ago, Djole123 said:

Conveniently second is the Infinity Flex prototype.1575627095_ScreenShot2018-11-08at10_41_53PM.png.8f2f10440e3976342eb42d8c2dad7bb0.png

I don't think this is bezelless obsession. It's more me saying there's lots of room for improvement. And there will be (I hope)

I think there'll be a requirement of SOME bezel on foldable phones, but no where as near as the above picture.

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21 hours ago, Djole123 said:

Let me get things straight.

 

Firstly, I'm a huge advocate for 16:9 and big bezels. Samsung is trying to choke the fuck out of everyone with their 720p "Infinity" display on the latest J8 (2018) instead of having a standard 1080p display they used in the last year's J7. 359137561_ScreenShot2018-11-08at10_50_22PM.png.559bad919a32fee874cab757f5343138.png

 

So their goal is to have tiny bezels as a standard, even while putting a 720p display on a sub-300 euro phone (like what the hell Samsung?)

 

Conveniently second is the Infinity Flex prototype.1575627095_ScreenShot2018-11-08at10_41_53PM.png.8f2f10440e3976342eb42d8c2dad7bb0.png

 

I don't think this is bezelless obsession. It's more me saying there's lots of room for improvement. And there will be (I hope)

 

 

6 hours ago, rcmaehl said:

I think there'll be a requirement of SOME bezel on foldable phones, but no where as near as the above picture.

The reveal of the new "folding phone" was inside a housing. That's the reason the lights go off and you can only see the screen light up and "bend" etc. Purposely done to show off the screen without what the actual device looks like (or what the prototype device looks like) 

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