I'm considering a new m-itx build. ​​​​​​​Any suggestions on cases that aren't mass produced?

[SinisterVirtue]

I've picked out some parts I liked Asus motherboard, Intel i7-8700k, 32 gbs ram, corsair sfx 600w psu. I'm going to buy a new m.2 SSD. I want a case that can handle a full-length EVGA GTX 1080 ti or RTX 2080 ti. 

 

[Arika]

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Any suggestions on cases that aren't mass produced?

what do you mean by this and why would it matter?

 

I use a fractal design define nano S. It's small but not compact. can fit basically any double slot card

[SinisterVirtue]

Just now, Arika S said:

what do you mean by this and why would it matter?

 

I use a fractal design define nano S. It's small but not compact. can fit basically any double slot card

There's alot of companies that make m-itx cases that aren't on newegg, amazon, etc. Like a boutique case. 

[SinisterVirtue]

5 minutes ago, Arika S said:

what do you mean by this and why would it matter?

 

I use a fractal design define nano S. It's small but not compact. can fit basically any double slot card

LOQUE Ghost S1 is an example of a boutique m-itx case. 

[dizmo]

Streacom DA2.

[Arika]

1 minute ago, SinisterVirtue said:

LOQUE Ghost S1 is an example of a boutique m-itx case. 

ok?

 

its one of the most basic and plain looking cases i've ever seen. still don't really understand what you're after.

[Cereal5]

Linus made an excellent video on this, I actually watched it yesterday. Search “Linus small form factor case” on YouTube and it should show up. It’s a round up of like 10 SFF cases

[SinisterVirtue]

13 minutes ago, Arika S said:

ok?

 

its one of the most basic and plain looking cases i've ever seen. still don't really understand what you're after.

A challenging and compact build, that looks sleek and like a piece of art. 

[SinisterVirtue]

23 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Streacom DA2.

I'm liking this case the most, great suggestion. 

[Cereal5]

 

[SinisterVirtue]

1 minute ago, VegetableStu said:

by RTX did you mean EVGA's lineup as well? o_o the 2080/ti cards are pretty large this generation, and not many SFF cases are prepared for that ._.

The NCase M1 can do 3-slot cards, but the length needs some due diligence work before actually buying the case and the GPU

I'm going with custom loop cooling on the graphics card as well, I'm just waiting to see if the prices dip on the 2080ti's before making my decision. Leaning towards a 1080 ti currently, simply because I feel the 20 series is overpriced and without tlss and rtx support, I don't see the need just yet. 

[Zandvliet]

Lian Li PCO5?

 

http://www.lian-li.com/pc-05/

 

[ImBleu]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dzRY3LLsXcDX5Qt5PvQOrAJhw0EK9Cy7UtQPdyRp6PY/edit

 

Here's a list of all the Small Form Factor PCs currently available (mostly) for sale. Includes boutique like the NCase M1/Dan A4/Louqe Ghost and some mass produced ones too.

 

Happy hunting.

[Stefan Payne]

6 hours ago, VegetableStu said:

by RTX did you mean EVGA's lineup as well? o_o the 2080/ti cards are pretty large this generation, and not many SFF cases are prepared for that ._.

Not only that but also the Power Consumption is an issue as the GPU department is usually not getting that good airflow so the fans spin higher and it gets louder...

 

I'd not go over RX480 Power Consumption (~150-175W) if I'd build a small PC.

A 250W GPU isn't for a Small Form Factor one.

Also the i7 isn't something I'd choose, I'd go with a Ryzen 2700 because its the best compromize and has a soldered lid. And you'd be able to get away with a Noctua NH-L9x65 more easily than with the i7. And in some cases you have to go as low as an NH-L9i/a but could replace the fan with a 25mm thick 92mm fan (wich is recommended to use a "normal size" fan!)

[SinisterVirtue]

2 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

Not only that but also the Power Consumption is an issue as the GPU department is usually not getting that good airflow so the fans spin higher and it gets louder...

 

I'd not go over RX480 Power Consumption (~150-175W) if I'd build a small PC.

A 250W GPU isn't for a Small Form Factor one.

Also the i7 isn't something I'd choose, I'd go with a Ryzen 2700 because its the best compromize and has a soldered lid. And you'd be able to get away with a Noctua NH-L9x65 more easily than with the i7. And in some cases you have to go as low as an NH-L9i/a but could replace the fan with a 25mm thick 92mm fan (wich is recommended to use a "normal size" fan!)

That would make sense if I was going for passive cooling, but I'm going to be doing a custom loop. I've read that the Corsair SF450 can more then handle a GTX 1080 ti just fine, but that's why I'm opting for a SF600. Also I use to be red team and then once I switched to blue team all my hardware issues went away, I'll likely never go back to AMD. 

[Stefan Payne]

1 hour ago, SinisterVirtue said:

That would make sense if I was going for passive cooling, but I'm going to be doing a custom loop. I've read that the Corsair SF450 can more then handle a GTX 1080 ti just fine, but that's why I'm opting for a SF600.

Even then, you have to get something out and Custom loop and µITX is not something that's really possible with real ITX Cases.

The ones that do allow it are so big that you can go with µATX or full ATX instead without much difference in Size...

1 hour ago, SinisterVirtue said:

 Also I use to be red team and then once I switched to blue team all my hardware issues went away, I'll likely never go back to AMD. 

Yeah, because you probably did AMD like many other people and gotten the cheapest crap with an even worse PSU and then wonder why it has Problems.

Or maybe gotten a Gigabyte Board. Those aren't great either...

Someone told me about an X99 Board that only worked with a DDR4-2100 4GiB stick in a certain slot.

So its not like there ain't no problems with Intel. The difference is that people don't whine about it and fix them...

Also it seems to me that people tend to do more research when getting Intel systems as well...

 

And it might also be possible that you got dead hardware, happens sometimes. That's what the Warranty is for...

[SinisterVirtue]

4 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

Even then, you have to get something out and Custom loop and µITX is not something that's really possible with real ITX Cases.

The ones that do allow it are so big that you can go with µATX or full ATX instead without much difference in Size...

Yeah, because you probably did AMD like many other people and gotten the cheapest crap with an even worse PSU and then wonder why it has Problems.

Or maybe gotten a Gigabyte Board. Those aren't great either...

Someone told me about an X99 Board that only worked with a DDR4-2100 4GiB stick in a certain slot.

So its not like there ain't no problems with Intel. The difference is that people don't whine about it and fix them...

Also it seems to me that people tend to do more research when getting Intel systems as well...

 

And it might also be possible that you got dead hardware, happens sometimes. That's what the Warranty is for...

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With AMD I used MSI motherboards and Corsair power supplies. Last AMD build was with an AMD Phenom II x4 980. The mainboard was $300 and I had to RMA it 3 times before they sent me a board that wasn't DOA or didn't short after a few weeks of ownership. I've never skimped on hardware. Most builds are between $1500 to $3000. With that being said, I won't purchase anything from MSI either. 

[Stefan Payne]

3 hours ago, SinisterVirtue said:

With AMD I used MSI motherboards and Corsair power supplies.

Well, MSI are hit and miss.

Some are good, some are crap. Was happy with my K9N2 Platinum, but it died a couple of weeks ago...

as all nForce Boards do...

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Last AMD build was with an AMD Phenom II x4 980. The mainboard was $300 and I had to RMA it 3 times before they sent me a board that wasn't DOA or didn't short after a few weeks of ownership.

What Board did you get?
I couldn't find an MSI around that price. The only one I'd think about would have been the K9N2 Diamond with nForce 980a - wich is a piece of shit or rather a 750a with an nForce 200 between PCIe and Chipset. That could have been in that area.

 

The 790FX-GD70 could also have been one of the Boards...

 

Problem is: if you go too high, you're getting more trouble for the money for no real benefit.

The best is somewhere in the middle...

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I've never skimped on hardware. Most builds are between $1500 to $3000. With that being said, I won't purchase anything from MSI either. 

Well, I have a ton of MSI Boards, some where better than others, had a ton of ASUS Boards and tbh: ASUS tends to consume way more power than MSI or Biostar.

Just because one system didn't run properly for whatever reason isn't really a reason to never buy from one again, especially if one of the partys involved can't do anything about that (AMD in this case)...

[Princess Luna]

If you want to SLI, why not just go Micro-ATX instead? just wondering, it can be very compact but so much easier to work with and will give every thing space to breath... literally.

[SinisterVirtue]

5 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

If you want to SLI, why not just go Micro-ATX instead? just wondering, it can be very compact but so much easier to work with and will give every thing space to breath... literally.

Any boutique case suggestions for micro-atx?

[Princess Luna]

6 minutes ago, SinisterVirtue said:

Any boutique case suggestions for micro-atx?

I'll say this looks interesting and within the mini-atx concept

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7XDwrH/silverstone-case-sg09b

 

An Asus ROG-G Z370M probably has all the features you need.

[ImBleu]

33 minutes ago, SinisterVirtue said:

Any boutique case suggestions for micro-atx?

If you can find it - Caselabs Bullet BH5

[TVwazhere]

16 hours ago, SinisterVirtue said:

Any boutique case suggestions for micro-atx?

http://www.sliger.com/products/cases/cerberus/

mATX

 

For mITX, Loque Ghost S1 will give you better flexibility for custom watercooling over similar cases like the NCase M1 or Dan CAse A4/C4. 

 

20 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

Even then, you have to get something out and Custom loop and µITX is not something that's really possible with real ITX Cases.

Not the case at all

Spoiler

Ncase M1

Sugo SG13

Inwin A1

And these are all assuming you're looking for the "smallest ITX case possible", not "relatively small"

 

[Stefan Payne]

1 hour ago, TVwazhere said:

Not the case at all

Yes, the case.

Those are on the upper end and from the space they take rather close to µATX Boards and in some of those you could even use  µATX Boards with a different layout/arrangement. 

That was what I was trying to say...

And that kinda defeats the purpose of µITX, doesn't it?

If you want a Water cooling a small/shitty Case like the Aerocool QS-200 is hardly any bigger and allows 3x120mm fans...

[dizmo]

18 hours ago, SinisterVirtue said:

I'm liking this case the most, great suggestion. 

Yeah I think it's one of the best mITX offerings, and the price isn't that bad either. HardwareCanucks recently did a review of it, it's worth checking out.