help What graphics card should I go for 144hz 1440p G-sync monitor?

[GlucoseGarbage]

Okay, so I have never build a computer before and this would be my first time, usually this would bee overkill for a first build, but I'm looking to keep this PC for over 5 years with minimum upgrades. I have spent the past month or two picking out some parts with a budget of $1,000-$1,300 including a monitor. I have parts picked out but I'm stuck on with GPU I should get.

 

For the CPU is a Ryzen 5 2600x and I got 16gb of ram. The monitor I would be using is a Dell S2417DG which supports G-Sync. 

 

I want to use this computer to stream games and get ABOVE 60fps while streaming. I also want to record game-play and use it for YouTube. I will mainly be playing games like cs:go, fortnite (maybe), and R6. Not too many games and I plan on getting a lot more in the future, maybe GTA 5, Battlefield, or stuff like that. When I'm playing these games WITHOUT streaming I'm looking to get hopefully over 100fps and I might turn some settings down such as shadows, other than that I don't wanna change too much.  I know the monitor has G-Sync so tearing won't really be a problem. 

 

I also edit videos using Sony Vegas and After Effects, I don't know if the CPU will support that entirely but let me know if that doesn't.

 

I was thinking that a 1070ti would get me to my expectations, I don't want to spend too much money on this. I'm also not looking to overclock ANY of my parts, but if I much to reach these goals then please let me know. If you wanna let a take a closer look at my parts here's a list https://pcpartpicker.com/user/GlucoseGarbage/saved/fXfV6h let me know if I need to change anything so I could have good fps and not be held back when doing any of the things I plan on doing.

 

Thanks for all the help in advance :D

[Streetguru]

4 minutes ago, GlucoseGarbage said:

 

Vegas...and After Effects?

 

Do you already have the monitor? If not you should probably be buying a 1440p 144hz IPS free-sync display instead.

[Crunchy Dragon]

I'd personally go for a 1070Ti, 1080, or 1080Ti. All of those can be easily found for low prices on the used market.

[Jurrunio]

1. do you need wifi?

 

2. 24" is so small, I dont think you'll differentiate 1080p and 1440p. Better get a bigger monitor since 1080p ones are at best VA panels, which are still a bit short in colour and viewing angles compared to IPS (the dell here is also VA, so I'd use something from a different series).

[Hip]

Get a 27" version first. Thank me later.

 

And the best GPU is 1080 Ti for this and a decent CPU for course!

[mayonnaiseblackhole]

With those games, you can probably run it with a 1070ti but higher would give it some headroom.

[Jeffix]

I also use the Dell S2417DG and it is a great choice for a monitor. I wouldn't say that you won't EVER have issues with tearing but that depends on which GPU you get. That being said, I use an 8GB GTX 1080 in my rig and I'm very happy with the results (I run two 1080p monitors in addition to the 1440p one). I would say if you are looking at a 1070 Ti, spring for the 1080 (I was able to get mine for $370 on Amazon) or a 1080 Ti if you can find one in your budget. You can squeeze more performance out of it for not that much more money (depending on where you shop). And with cryptocurrency mining starting to fall out of fashion, cards are starting to get cheaper!

 

Streaming and video editing are going to depend both on your CPU and your GPU. The GPU will help encode actual video but your CPU is doing most of the actual number crunching. The 6 cores on your Ryzen 5 ought to do a good enough job.

[xg32]

39 minutes ago, GlucoseGarbage said:

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1080 ti used or 2080 new minimum imho

[Brooksie359]

Over a 100 fps at 1440p is alot it ask of any gpu depending on the game and settings. 

[Plumpo]

Vegas and AE are both primarily CPU/RAM dependent software. Exporting/Encoding will be a lot happier with a better CPU. So depending on you how you're going to balance the over use of the system, I would get the best CPU you can with that budget. For an extra $100 USD you can get the 2700X and have a lot more headroom for multitasking and your AE/Vegas will out put faster.

 

If you can get a solid price on a used GPU you can make up the extra money there. If not, I would drop down to 1080p. Having recently made the jump from 1080p 144hz to 1440p 144hz, I was surprised at how much of a dip my FPS took on a 1070TI without dropping game settings.

 

 

[tuunade98]

imo a 1080ti will be perfect. I have a gtx 1080 and the asus pg248q(180hz 1080p monitor). At 1440p a gtx 1080 feels lacking for high refresh rates, you're better off with more frames with a 1080ti. I also have a 4k hdr10 monitor the lg 32ud99, so i know what it is like...

[iiMaagic]

6 hours ago, tuunade98 said:

imo a 1080ti will be perfect. I have a gtx 1080 and the asus pg248q(180hz 1080p monitor). At 1440p a gtx 1080 feels lacking for high refresh rates, you're better off with more frames with a 1080ti. I also have a 4k hdr10 monitor the lg 32ud99, so i know what it is like...

That isn't exactly true. It depends on what games you play and how long you spend to tweak the games. I have a 1080 FE and I run the majority of my games between 120-150fps on a 1440p 144hz monitor. If you're able to fine-tweak your games to boost your fps over the threshold.

 

I used to use a 4k monitor that died before it and I was still able to achieve 55-60fps on the majority of the games I played just tweaking settings down and still playing with way better visuals than I had at 1080p / than I do sometimes at 1440p.

[GlucoseGarbage]

On 10/18/2018 at 5:36 PM, Plumpo said:

Vegas and AE are both primarily CPU/RAM dependent software. Exporting/Encoding will be a lot happier with a better CPU. So depending on you how you're going to balance the over use of the system, I would get the best CPU you can with that budget. For an extra $100 USD you can get the 2700X and have a lot more headroom for multitasking and your AE/Vegas will out put faster.

 

If you can get a solid price on a used GPU you can make up the extra money there. If not, I would drop down to 1080p. Having recently made the jump from 1080p 144hz to 1440p 144hz, I was surprised at how much of a dip my FPS took on a 1070TI without dropping game settings.

Do you think overclocking the CPU would work well for editing?

 

As for the GPU, I kinda want to go used for a 1080 or a 1080ti if I can't find one in my budget. Should I overclock the GPU as well or just risk buying used parts?

 

On 10/18/2018 at 4:18 PM, Streetguru said:

Vegas...and After Effects?

Do you already have the monitor? If not you should probably be buying a 1440p 144hz IPS free-sync display instead.

I don't the monitor already. Why should I go with Free-sync, I don't think my card is AMD

[Plumpo]

9 minutes ago, GlucoseGarbage said:

I don't the monitor already. Why should I go with Free-sync, I don't think my card is AMD

Free-sync can get you into a 144hz monitor for a lot less than getting a Gsync panel. If you have an Nvidia card and want to minimize tearing turn on Vsync and you should be good. You just lose the dynamic frame adjustments that Free/Gsync give you.

[Streetguru]

2 hours ago, GlucoseGarbage said:

I don't the monitor already. Why should I go with Free-sync, I don't think my card is AMD

Even if you get an nvidia GPU the free-sync display will be cheaper for the same panel type, if you're in the US anyways at least.

But Vega 56 is back to it's MSRP and is comparable to the 1070ti/1080 depending on OC/undervolt

 

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[Ebony Falcon]

deffo a second hand 1080ti 

[_Hustler_One_]

RTX 2070 maybe? Regardless of its Raytracing.

 

In my country MSI RTX 2070 Armor price is same with most of GTX 1080. While GTX 1080 is being quiet old card, and GTX 1070 Ti is perfect for high FPS 1080p gaming and not so high FPS at 1440p. RTX 2070 is perfect for high FPS 1440p, it performs between GTX 1080 and 1080 Ti based on some review I've seen.. While GTX 1080 Ti is still more expensive than RTX 2070, and RTX 2070 is more futureproof.

 

I don't bother thinking to get GTX 1080/Ti or even RTX ones if I only use a 1080p 144Hz monitor, unless there is an RTX card which specialized at 1080p 120+ Hz display with reasonable price.

[tuunade98]

On 10/19/2018 at 6:43 PM, iiMaagic said:

That isn't exactly true. It depends on what games you play and how long you spend to tweak the games. I have a 1080 FE and I run the majority of my games between 120-150fps on a 1440p 144hz monitor. If you're able to fine-tweak your games to boost your fps over the threshold.

 

I used to use a 4k monitor that died before it and I was still able to achieve 55-60fps on the majority of the games I played just tweaking settings down and still playing with way better visuals than I had at 1080p / than I do sometimes at 1440p.

Yeah forgot to mention you can tweak your graphics for extra frames if you don't really care about the looks. 

[Dyago flores]

I have $100 and this seems to be a great deal for $50. I want to use things like photoshop and after effects. Will this run these things? Is 2120 any good?

[tuunade98]

at 1080p 144hz+ you can get away with using a 1060.