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2080 Ti, poor premiere pro performance

Bakedpanda
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So, my 2080 Ti FE arrived yesterday. I've been using my old 1060 6GB until it arrived. After swapping it out I'm getting roughly the same playback and export performance accross both cards. 

 

The projects I'm working on are mostly 1080/25 final exports using 4K/25, 1080/100 and 1080/50 footage from Sony A7Sii/Rii and Canon C100/200 cameras. I use minimal effects and light grading (mostly just some colour correction).

 

If anyone else is using this card, I'd be interested to hear how its performing.

 

I'm using the latest Nvidia driver, windows is up to date, all Adobe apps are up to date.

 

Gaming performance is as expected. Tested with BF1 and getting 170-200 fps at 1080 on ultra settings.

 

Here are a few Log entries from AME to show whats happening for export.

 

1060

 

 - Source File: C:\Users\chris\AppData\Local\Temp\USW CTA1.prproj
 - Output File: C:\Users\chris\Documents\Wipster\CTA Promo v2.mp4
 - Preset Used: WipsterHighBitRate
 - Video: 1920x1080 (1.0), 25 fps, Progressive, Software Encoding, 00:03:48:12
 - Audio: AAC, 320 kbps, 48 kHz, Stereo
 - Bitrate: VBR, 1 pass, Target 16.00 Mbps, Max 20.00 Mbps
 - Encoding Time: 00:02:45
10/01/2018 04:02:14 PM : File Successfully Encoded

 

2080 Ti (best improvement I've seen so far but only 9%)

 

 - Source File: C:\Users\chris\AppData\Local\Temp\USW CTA1_5.prproj
 - Output File: C:\Users\chris\Documents\Wipster\CTA Promo v2_1.mp4
 - Preset Used: WipsterHighBitRate
 - Video: 1920x1080 (1.0), 25 fps, Progressive, Software Encoding, 00:03:48:12
 - Audio: AAC, 320 kbps, 48 kHz, Stereo
 - Bitrate: VBR, 1 pass, Target 16.00 Mbps, Max 20.00 Mbps
 - Encoding Time: 00:02:30
10/04/2018 03:02:27 PM : File Successfully Encoded

 

1060


 - Source File: G:\USW Alumni 2018\Projects\Copy of USW Alumni 2018.prproj
 - Output File: F:\Exports\Contribution to Welsh Life and Culture.mp4
 - Preset Used: H.264 1080p 15mbps
 - Video: 1920x1080 (1.0), 25 fps, Progressive, Software Encoding, 00:02:07:17
 - Audio: AAC, 320 kbps, 48 kHz, Stereo
 - Bitrate: CBR, Target 15.00 Mbps
 - Encoding Time: 00:00:55
09/28/2018 12:45:43 PM : File Successfully Encoded

 

2080 Ti


 - Source File: C:\Users\chris\AppData\Local\Temp\Copy of USW Alumni 2018.prproj
 - Output File: C:\Users\chris\Desktop\Contribution to Welsh Life and Culture_2.mp4
 - Preset Used: H.264 1080p 15mbps
 - Video: 1920x1080 (1.0), 25 fps, Progressive, Software Encoding, 00:02:07:17
 - Audio: AAC, 320 kbps, 48 kHz, Stereo
 - Bitrate: CBR, Target 15.00 Mbps
 - Encoding Time: 00:00:59
10/05/2018 12:31:33 PM : File Successfully Encoded
 

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Video export times are mostly CPU bound, especially if you're just doing some light color correction and no advanced stuff with extra animations and such. So which CPU are you using? You can likely save more time by going with a faster CPU than going for a 2080Ti.

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Premiere barely uses the GPU. AE is what uses CUDA and ray tracing

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Still true.

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17 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

Premiere barely uses the GPU. AE is what uses CUDA and ray tracing

I think AE actually stopped supporting GPU acceleration for the most part, and went for full CPU acceleration, except for some very specific effects.

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I'm using a 7820X with 32GB RAM, NVMe boot and 2 RAID 0 SATA SSD arrays, one for working projects and one for cache. In terms of Adobe Apps that utilize the GPU, premiere is the most power hungry. In AE, there was no notable difference between using a 1060 and a 1080 Ti. 

 

Here is some information on this

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Adobe-After-Effects-CC-144/Hardware-Recommendations

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Adobe-Premiere-Pro-CC-143/Hardware-Recommendations

 

If you scroll down to the GPU section, you can see what I mean.

 

As for premiere, based on these charts and a recent blog post by the same company (https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Premiere-Pro-CC-2018-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-2080-2080-Ti-Performance-1244/), the 2080 Ti performance is between that of a 1080 Ti and a Titan V. 

 

Based on this info, I should be getting a ~20-30% increase in export performance compared to my 1060 6GB and I'm not, hence the forum post.

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1 hour ago, NelizMastr said:

I think AE actually stopped supporting GPU acceleration for the most part, and went for full CPU acceleration, except for some very specific effects.

Well you can set the rendered to CUDA and they now support experimental use of the GPU for things like ray tracing. Compared to something like Davinci resolve which has 100% GPU support

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Even Sony Vegas uses GPU better than Premiere Pro, if you need to improve your performance there like other have spoken you should look into strong CPUs and strong memory configurations.

 

Trust me I know the frustration, the TITAN V on my brother's and I rig is always bottlenecked by the Ryzen 7 1800X but there's nothing we can do as we're waiting for the i9 9900K and Intel's a beach that never releases it, waiting for over a year already for the 8 cores mainstream Intel CPU.

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1 hour ago, Bakedpanda said:

Based on this info, I should be getting a ~20-30% increase in export performance compared to my 1060 6GB and I'm not, hence the forum post.

The GPU is used for:

  • GPU-accelerated effects
  • Scaling

That's pretty much it.  So if your tests don't include those sorts of things, you won't see an improvement.

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my "OLD" 1060 6GB.

 

my 26 yo dad is "OLD"

 

what a noob. should have wrote:

 

my "OLD AND OBSOLETE" 1060 6GB is now "SLOW AND COUGH BLOOD, WHEEZING AND USE WHEELCHAIR AND EYES COVERED IN CATARACTS AND ITS ALREADY SMELL PUTRID".

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43 minutes ago, jasonvp said:

The GPU is used for:

  • GPU-accelerated effects
  • Scaling

That's pretty much it.  So if your tests don't include those sorts of things, you won't see an improvement.

The majority of the footage in the examples shown above was recorded at 4K/25 and is being scaled to 1080/25 so I should see at least some difference between the cards.

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