Is the i7-7700 worth it right now?

[Exvy]

Thinking of getting it in a few months(december/january), it's an easier option since my motherboard (skylake) supports it

Do you guys think it's a bad idea? Should I get a newer processor like i5-8xxx and a new motherboard?

[porina]

You'll have to balance it. What CPU are you upgrading from, and how much does it cost? 

[Rauten]

What's your current processor and motherboard? It will also depend on the price you can get it for.

[voiha]

I would say that i7 last year is better than i5 from this year "threads and stuff" I am currently with i7-7700 paired with GTX 1080 and I'm more than happy with the combo

[FloRolf]

For less than $150 I'd so yeah it's worth it. 

[TheKDub]

8 minutes ago, Exvy said:

Thinking of getting it in a few months(december/january), it's an easier option since my motherboard (skylake) supports it

Do you guys think it's a bad idea? Should I get a newer processor like i5-8xxx and a new motherboard?

What motherboard do you have?

[Exvy]

3 minutes ago, porina said:

You'll have to balance it. What CPU are you upgrading from, and how much does it cost? 

The one I have right now is a i5-6400. The 7700 goes for 284€. The i5 8400 goes for 177€

[Exvy]

Just now, FloRolf said:

For less than $150 I'd so yeah it's worth it. 

damn, where I live it's 284€

[Exvy]

1 minute ago, TheKDub said:

What motherboard do you have?

A cheap one. MSI h110m pro-vh plus.

[Exvy]

5 minutes ago, Rauten said:

What's your current processor and motherboard? It will also depend on the price you can get it for.

i5-6400 and a cheap msi h110m pro-vh plus. It's 284€

[TheKDub]

4 minutes ago, Exvy said:

A cheap one. MSI h110m pro-vh plus.

Oof. Is the i5 6400 too slow for your needs? What exactly are you looking to do with it?

[Mooshi]

i7 over an i5 8 series any day.

[Exvy]

Just now, TheKDub said:

Oof. Is the i5 6400 too slow for your needs? What exactly are you looking to do with it?

I tend to play poorly optimized games and cpu intensive games, to be able to reach 60fps I need to turn down the graphics and that's something that bothers me

[AskTJ]

If anything, I would sell the board and i5 and get a Ryzen 5 1600. More cores and threads, runs cooler and cheaper.

 

The i7 7700 isn't worth buying new as you can get a better performing i5 8th gen. If you can find it used for a great deal, sure.

[TheKDub]

Just now, AskTJ said:

If anything, I would sell the board and i5 and get a Ryzen 5 1600. More cores and threads, runs cooler and cheaper.

 

The i7 7700 isn't worth buying new as you can get a better performing i5 8th gen. If you can find it used for a great deal, sure.

 

For gaming, the 7700 would be a better idea, or even a 7700K if he can fit it in his budget. (Yes, it doesn't have as many cores/threads, but it does have better single-thread performance, which is a huge factor for performance in games, and will help more than the extra 2c/4t)

[Exvy]

Just now, TheKDub said:

 

For gaming, the 7700 would be a better idea, or even a 7700K if he can fit it in his budget. (Yes, it doesn't have as many cores/threads, but it does have better single-thread performance, which is a huge factor for performance in games, and will help more than the extra 2c/4t)

The 7700k goes for 305€. How much would I need to spend on a cooler?

[Jurrunio]

3 minutes ago, TheKDub said:

 

For gaming, the 7700 would be a better idea, or even a 7700K if he can fit it in his budget. (Yes, it doesn't have as many cores/threads, but it does have better single-thread performance, which is a huge factor for performance in games, and will help more than the extra 2c/4t)

his board doesnt support overclocking, so the 7700k wont show any of its advantage.

[TheKDub]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

his board doesnt support overclocking, so the 7700k wont show any of its advantage.

 

He'd be best off replacing the board either way since he went with some cheap h110 trash board.

 

Not to mention the 7700k is roughly 15% faster than the 7700 without overclocking it. (Higher base and boost clocks) (http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-7700/3647vs3887)

 

6 minutes ago, Exvy said:

The 7700k goes for 305€. How much would I need to spend on a cooler?

 

You'd likely want something such as the Cryorig H5 or Noctua NH-U12S, though something cheaper such as the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo would be fine as well, just as long as you don't overclock.

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, TheKDub said:

He'd be best off replacing the board either way since he went with some cheap h110 trash board.

If he's replacing the board, just get the 8600k. Two cores beats two threads, cleanly.

 

2 minutes ago, TheKDub said:

Not to mention the 7700k is roughly 15% faster than the 7700 without overclocking it. (Higher base and boost clocks) (http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-7700/3647vs3887)

nope, userbenchmark takes overclocking into consideration. The real clock speed difference will be 400MHz (4.4GHz all core boost for 7700k, 4GHz for 7700), which is a very small difference in terms of in-game frame rates.

[TheKDub]

10 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

If he's replacing the board, just get the 8600k. Two cores beats two threads, cleanly.

 

nope, userbenchmark takes overclocking into consideration. The real clock speed difference will be 400MHz (4.4GHz all core boost for 7700k, 4GHz for 7700), which is a very small difference in terms of in-game frame rates.

Have you not looked at userbenchmark's scoring at all?
For single-core not overclocked, the 7700k beat the 7700 by 15%. The same for quad-core not overclocked. 13% for multi-core not overclocked.

Just below that for the separate overclocked scores, that difference only grows.

 

Keep in mind, CPUs don't run at boost clocks constantly. Cores will boost to the boost clock based on the type of workload, number of cores active, power consumption, and temperature.

 

Ignoring boost clocks, the 7700K would be 600MHz faster. With boost clocks, 300MHz faster. With how close in price the two are (Within $20 USD), it'd be a mistake to not get the 7700K over the 7700.

Again, that's a 15% boost in performance without overclocking for a roughly 6% increase in cost.

 

 

If he can find a Z370 or H370 motherboard that suits his needs and budget, then the 8600K is a solid option as well.

[Exvy]

7 minutes ago, TheKDub said:

Have you not looked at userbenchmark's scoring at all?
For single-core not overclocked, the 7700k beat the 7700 by 15%. The same for quad-core not overclocked. 13% for multi-core not overclocked.

Just below that for the separate overclocked scores, that difference only grows.

 

Keep in mind, CPUs don't run at boost clocks constantly. Cores will boost to the boost clock based on the type of workload, number of cores active, power consumption, and temperature.

 

Ignoring boost clocks, the 7700K would be 600MHz faster. With boost clocks, 300MHz faster. With how close in price the two are (Within $20 USD), it'd be a mistake to not get the 7700K over the 7700.

Again, that's a 15% boost in performance without overclocking for a roughly 6% increase in cost.

 

 

If he can find a Z370 or H370 motherboard that suits his needs and budget, then the 8600K is a solid option as well.

I don't plan on overclocking the CPU, I'd be good with a non-K one

[Taf the Ghost]

39 minutes ago, Exvy said:

I tend to play poorly optimized games and cpu intensive games, to be able to reach 60fps I need to turn down the graphics and that's something that bothers me

You have DDR4. How much and at what speed? Also, what GPU are you using?

 

Depending on locality, getting a H360 or Z370 board with either an i5-8400 or i7-8700 non-k are options. The non-k 8700 ends up being a good value in a lot of regions.

[Exvy]

4 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

You have DDR4. How much and at what speed? Also, what GPU are you using?

 

Depending on locality, getting a H360 or Z370 board with either an i5-8400 or i7-8700 non-k are options. The non-k 8700 ends up being a good value in a lot of regions.

1 stick of 8GB RAM @ 2133Mhz. Using a RX 480 4GB. The i7-8700 goes way out of my budget, I want to spend around 250€.

Would the AMD Ryzen 5 1600X be a good option instead of the 8400?

[Taf the Ghost]

3 minutes ago, Exvy said:

1 stick of 8GB RAM @ 2133Mhz. Using a RX 480 4GB. The i7-8700 goes way out of my budget, I want to spend around 250€.

Would the AMD Ryzen 5 1600X be a good option instead of the 8400?

Yes, but the RAM is something of an issue. Intel would benefit from 2666; AMD from 2933. If your RAM setup was different, the R5 1600 and OC'd to 3.8-4.0 would have worked fine. In this case, a solid Z370 + i5-8400 should suit you well.

 

Also, while your board doesn't allow for overclocking, have you tried setting the memory to 2400?

[Taf the Ghost]

I'd also recommend, after you upgrade to a new mobo + CPU, seeing if you can sell the old ones and upgrade that RAM. Maybe even a full combo for enough for a 2x 8 Gb set.