Any foreseeable way to get MS to keep GFWL?

[UnderADyingSun]

Gaw, I have to ask. It's bugging the crap out of me that they're ending the service. 

 

I can't help but think this can all be attributed to the steam bro team. The incessant advocates for the one and only outcrying to no end about how GFWL sucks. Guess what, steam sucks absent the sales. There's nothing overtly thrilling about it, it's features are still clunky and if I could I'd do without. 

 

Let me tell you, I have a hard time replaying any game on pc, let alone playing it in any structured/specific way due to the fact that there's barely any reward system. I like achievements, I inevitably grew fond of them through the course of maintaining an 8 plus year live account ( starting w/ the original ). It added to the value of video games, it helped justify a new purchase and certainly added to the value of the playing experience. 

 

On another note, GFWL allows me to sign into my live account and communicate with friends on the fly in virtually the exact same way as on my xbox. That furthers the social experience, something I've found to be sorely lacking on PC. It's just sterile on the pc front. Sure I can organize in teamspeak with a few friends, but most people are just disinterested and have terrible social habits. Gaming alone is like drinking alone, you just don't do it ( unless it's dead space )! Console gamings habits were ALWAYS to jump into a full 8 man party, regardless of who was playing what, to shoot the shizz and laugh etc... 

 

I'm just communicating how inherently depressing it is, or should be, for those pc gamers, those peeps that switched platforms, who will now be eventually rendered deprived. 

 

Regardless of petition, I'm sure MS doesn't really care. I'd just like this minority to have a face to punch or something. Whilst the PC offers a complete experience for me now, it eventually won't and I'll probably have to pick up an xbox one in tandem. LAME!

[TheSLSAMG]

Oh god no, Games For Windows Live is pretty much the worst thing that happened to PC Gaming.

[_ASSASSIN_]

Gaw, I have to ask. It's bugging the crap out of me that they're ending the service. 

 

I can't help but think this can all be attributed to the steam bro team. The incessant advocates for the one and only outcrying to no end about how GFWL sucks. Guess what, steam sucks absent the sales. There's nothing overtly thrilling about it, it's features are still clunky and if I could I'd do without. 

 

Let me tell you, I have a hard time replaying any game on pc, let alone playing it in any structured/specific way due to the fact that there's barely any reward system. I like achievements, I inevitably grew fond of them through the course of maintaining an 8 plus year live account ( starting w/ the original ). It added to the value of video games, it helped justify a new purchase and certainly added to the value of the playing experience. 

 

On another note, GFWL allows me to sign into my live account and communicate with friends on the fly in virtually the exact same way as on my xbox. That furthers the social experience, something I've found to be sorely lacking on PC. It's just sterile on the pc front. Sure I can organize in teamspeak with a few friends, but most people are just disinterested and have terrible social habits. Gaming alone is like drinking alone, you just don't do it ( unless it's dead space )! Console gamings habits were ALWAYS to jump into a full 8 man party, regardless of who was playing what, to shoot the shizz and laugh etc... 

excuse me if I prefer to not pay $5 a month to play when I can already do that for FREE on any other services.

and excuse me wat, you can communicate with other services (skype, raidcall, etc.), and steam also works to freaking talk to people

[Kuzma]

Tbh I see what you mean, hopefully Steam can make their voice chat system a bit easier to use, it already is in big picture mode so it being like that on SteamOS if you and all your buddies use SteamOS then there should be a problem

[Wauthar]

Shortly said, no. There will not be ways to keep GFWL in the air. It is going to be cancelled and many people will be happy about it.

It sucks for you, but they can't make everyone happy.

I love Steam and I personally think that there should be one universal, social platform for people to communicate in games etc.

[X1XNobleX1X]

Gaw, I have to ask. It's bugging the crap out of me that they're ending the service. 

 

I can't help but think this can all be attributed to the steam bro team. The incessant advocates for the one and only outcrying to no end about how GFWL sucks. Guess what, steam sucks absent the sales. There's nothing overtly thrilling about it, it's features are still clunky and if I could I'd do without. 

 

Let me tell you, I have a hard time replaying any game on pc, let alone playing it in any structured/specific way due to the fact that there's barely any reward system. I like achievements, I inevitably grew fond of them through the course of maintaining an 8 plus year live account ( starting w/ the original ). It added to the value of video games, it helped justify a new purchase and certainly added to the value of the playing experience. 

 

On another note, GFWL allows me to sign into my live account and communicate with friends on the fly in virtually the exact same way as on my xbox. That furthers the social experience, something I've found to be sorely lacking on PC. It's just sterile on the pc front. Sure I can organize in teamspeak with a few friends, but most people are just disinterested and have terrible social habits. Gaming alone is like drinking alone, you just don't do it ( unless it's dead space )! Console gamings habits were ALWAYS to jump into a full 8 man party, regardless of who was playing what, to shoot the shizz and laugh etc... 

 

I'm just communicating how inherently depressing it is, or should be, for those pc gamers, those peeps that switched platforms, who will now be eventually rendered deprived. 

 

Regardless of petition, I'm sure MS doesn't really care. I'd just like this minority to have a face to punch or something. Whilst the PC offers a complete experience for me now, it eventually won't and I'll probably have to pick up an xbox one in tandem. LAME!

"Achievements" are worthless, they are bragging rights, yes. But do you really get anything from collecting them?

[Erebus305]

Will I at least be able to play darksouls online still? Even though its a ghost town....

[UnderADyingSun]

Oh god no, Games For Windows Live is pretty much the worst thing that happened to PC Gaming.

 

Elaborate please. Issues with the games themselves aside which has nothing to do with this service. 

excuse me if I prefer to not pay $5 a month to play when I can already do that for FREE on any other services.

and excuse me wat, you can communicate with other services (skype, raidcall, etc.), and steam also works to freaking talk to people

 

PC gamers justify stupid amounts of money on their systems, and most people buy 3 or 12 months at discount. If you're particularly savvy you can pick out great deals and get a year for 30 bucks. That money is of no consequence, and if you factor in what I talked about before I think it's worth it. I can see not wanting to support microsoft, but you've already voted man. You spent a sum on an OS as did we all.  Also, I realize you can cross communicate but guess what. I have to open Ubi, Ea, and Steam's service just to track friends or message them. It's a hassle, albeit still stupidly easy, and that footwork is unnecessary. Plus I'm talking about communicating with my console bound friends. 

 

Tbh I see what you mean, hopefully Steam can make their voice chat system a bit easier to use, it already is in big picture mode so it being like that on SteamOS if you and all your buddies use SteamOS then there should be a problem

 

This would be great! I do like the call service, that annoying phone ring sure get's peoples attention haha

[TheSLSAMG]

Elaborate please. Issues with the games themselves aside which has nothing to do with this service. 

 

PC gamers justify stupid amounts of money on their systems, and most people buy 3 or 12 months at discount. If you're particularly savvy you can pick out great deals and get a year for 30 bucks. That money is of no consequence, and if you factor in what I talked about before I think it's worth it. I can see not wanting to support microsoft, but you've already voted man. You spent a sum on an OS as did we all.  Also, I realize you can cross communicate but guess what. I have to open Ubi, Ea, and Steam's service just to track friends or message them. It's a hassle, albeit still stupidly easy, and that footwork is unnecessary. Plus I'm talking about communicating with my console bound friends. 

 

 

This would be great! I do like the call service, that annoying phone ring sure get's peoples attention haha

It is because of Games for Windows Live that I cannot play Grand Theft Auto IV on my PC. I run Windows 8.1 Pro and GFWL is known for having a lot of issues with games not working because of the incompatibility of the service.

 

And may I ask, how hard of a Microsoft fanboy, console fanboy and Valve hater are you?

[_ASSASSIN_]

PC gamers justify stupid amounts of money on their systems, and most people buy 3 or 12 months at discount. If you're particularly savvy you can pick out great deals and get a year for 30 bucks. That money is of no consequence, and if you factor in what I talked about before I think it's worth it. I can see not wanting to support microsoft, but you've already voted man. You spent a sum on an OS as did we all.  Also, I realize you can cross communicate but guess what. I have to open Ubi, Ea, and Steam's service just to track friends or message them. It's a hassle, albeit still stupidly easy, and that footwork is unnecessary. Plus I'm talking about communicating with my console bound friends. 

so what? we PC gamers enjoy deals, I got my higher valued system at a cheaper price. you also have to realize you are pumping money in a system for a long time. If you were playing on PC for 8 years with the xbox 360 generation, you could easily have saved $480. That's a lot of games on steam sales.

[Snickerzz]

You can get the "smart glass" app for your phone and message people on xbox as if you were on your xbox....

 

android xbox 360 glass: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft.smartglass

android xbox one glass https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft.xboxone.smartglass

ios 360 glass: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/xbox-smartglass/id480914036?mt=8

ios one glass: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/xbox-one-smartglass/id736179781?mt=8

[UnderADyingSun]

"Achievements" are worthless, they are bragging rights, yes. But do you really get anything from collecting them?

 

To quickly illustrate. Take dishonored for example, I did my first playthrough without killing anyone, being seen, using any upgrades, on the hardest difficulty and was rewarded respectively. Further, that was the most fun playthrough I'd had in that game and it would have otherwise eluded me. And yea it is a little about bragging rights, but it also serves as a positive reminder of what you've accomplished. They usually offer countless reasons and ways to replay games, especially. 

 

Will I at least be able to play darksouls online still? Even though its a ghost town....

 

Dude I have no clue, but ds 2 should be out by then. I know they started porting games, and that may be one of them. If the server offerings are MS based, yea expect it to be gone. 

 

It is because of Games for Windows Live that I cannot play Grand Theft Auto IV on my PC. I run Windows 8.1 Pro and GFWL is known for having a lot of issues with games not working because of the incompatibility of the service.

 

And may I ask, how hard of a Microsoft fanboy, console fanboy and Valve hater are you?

 

Hmm, I'm buying Gta 4 complete today but I'm certain there are fixes or workarounds. Adding, the game is very old and pre dates 8.1. It's likely barely populated with respect to online services so I understand why they wouldn't make fixing this a priority especially if it's a complicated affair. If windows 7 was your xbox 360 than xbox one is your windows 8.1. We can be a little patient waiting for backwards compatibility right?

 

If microsoft was a woman I'd punch her and sleep with her. Mainly because she's the only female on this island that rates a 9  and she f in talks to much. Valve is the fat chick who lost weight and gained some beauty. She's cheap, she's easy but she bears too much scar tissue. Sum it up? Idk, was barely paying attention. I like my PC, but the "gaming" experience on console is better. And btw, don't act like you haven't been hanging on the MS tit your whole life. 

[TheSLSAMG]

To quickly illustrate. Take dishonored for example, I did my first playthrough without killing anyone, being seen, using any upgrades, on the hardest difficulty and was rewarded respectively. Further, that was the most fun playthrough I'd had in that game and it would have otherwise eluded me. And yea it is a little about bragging rights, but it also serves as a positive reminder of what you've accomplished. They usually offer countless reasons and ways to replay games, especially. 

 

 

Dude I have no clue, but ds 2 should be out by then. I know they started porting games, and that may be one of them. If the server offerings are MS based, yea expect it to be gone. 

 

 

Hmm, I'm buying Gta 4 complete today but I'm certain there are fixes or workarounds. Adding, the game is very old and pre dates 8.1. It's likely barely populated with respect to online services so I understand why they wouldn't make fixing this a priority especially if it's a complicated affair. If windows 7 was your xbox 360 than xbox one is your windows 8.1. We can be a little patient waiting for backwards compatibility right?

 

If microsoft was a woman I'd punch her and sleep with her. Mainly because she's the only female on this island that rates a 9  and she f in talks to much. Valve is the fat chick who lost weight and gained some beauty. She's cheap, she's easy but she bears too much scar tissue. Sum it up? Idk, was barely paying attention. I like my PC, but the "gaming" experience on console is better. And btw, don't act like you haven't been hanging on the MS tit your whole life. 

Well, I haven't been hanging on the MS tit for all my life. Most of my computing was Macintosh. I am not an Apple fanboy by the way. Some of what Microsoft does is good. I use Windows because it has the widest range of compatibility in games and programs of any operating system. But, security vulnerabilities, RROD and other miscellaneous issues have made me grow tired of their shit. Steam, on the other hand, has never really given me issues. For fucks sake, Origin never really game me issues. But GFWL? Shit. And as for the whole being patient, I think 1.25 years is enough time, people.

[UnderADyingSun]

so what? we PC gamers enjoy deals, I got my higher valued system at a cheaper price. you also have to realize you are pumping money in a system for a long time. If you were playing on PC for 8 years with the xbox 360 generation, you could easily have saved $480. That's a lot of games on steam sales.

 

I see what you're saying, but if I were to survive the 360 generation with a PC I would've had to completely upgrade atleast twice. The thing with game savings, well I always bought used ( generally, some notable exceptions for us all presumably ), atleast the console games weren't tied to one account ( thank god MS rolled back on their old DRM policy ) and when I was done I'd always trade back in. Infact, if I beat something within 7 days or hated it I could just get a refund. I miss that system, I wish steam would offer credit or something. Granted, there wouldn't be any monetary gain on their part but i'm sure someone more creative than me could come up with something. 

[TheSLSAMG]

I see what you're saying, but if I were to survive the 360 generation with a PC I would've had to completely upgrade atleast twice. The thing with game savings, well I always bought used ( generally, some notable exceptions for us all presumably ), atleast the console games weren't tied to one account ( thank god MS rolled back on their old DRM policy ) and when I was done I'd always trade back in. Infact, if I beat something within 7 days or hated it I could just get a refund. I miss that system, I wish steam would offer credit or something. Granted, there wouldn't be any monetary gain on their part but i'm sure someone more creative than me could come up with something.

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For example, letting you return the game with a slight loss on your end.

[Camul]

...I like my PC, but the "gaming" experience on console is better...

Maybe play on consoles then? I mean, if you love the Live account system and you prefer consoles then why not just play Xbox?

[Brandonsr]

I didn't mind GFWL, but the majority of people dislike it so what can you do.

[Ineko]

This is a joke right? GFWL has cheated me out of $60+, Dark Souls and Dirt 3 to be specific. For someone reason I could log in whilst playing Bioshock but it just wouldn't work on the other 2 games. It was a buggy piece of shit and I'm so happy to see it burn in a fire.

 

Btw, steam has group voice chat. Add the people you're playing with and invite them, easy. I do it on DayZ all the time. I start by myself and usually end up with 5 or more people in voice chat with me.