thinking of water cooling

[jevjev]

this might be a bit ambitious as this will be my first pc build but should i go for water cooling and what parts would you recommend

should i use hardline or flexible tubing  as this will be my first ever pc and my budget is only £1200 gbp for the whole build

if anyone could recommend water cooling kits or tell me reasons why i shouldn't water-cool it would be greatly appreciated thanks :3

[3 Lions]

You should probably look at AIO's instead. 

[jevjev]

4 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

You should probably look at AIO's instead. 

maybe i did think of getting an aio but what i wanted was a clear tubing with red liquid and i cant find an aio cooler that has that

[SolarNova]

£1200 budget wouldnt fit well for a custom loop, you would have to sacrifice performance to get a good loop.

Sugest sticking with a high end aircooler for now. Add in a loop later.

 

Dont use AIO's. They dont perform good enough to justify the cost over a top end air cooler. They are only really usfull in small form factor builds where large heatsinks cant fit.

 

A good "semi-premium" Intel i7 bassed build will cost you more than £1200.

[3 Lions]

1 minute ago, jevjev said:

maybe i did think of getting an aio but what i wanted was a clear tubing with red liquid and i cant find an aio cooler that has that

As this is your first ever PC build an AIO in this case would make more sense for you, building a custom loop requires a lot of time and dedication as well as the regular maintenance to keep the loop in good shape and performing correctly.  

[3 Lions]

5 minutes ago, SolarNova said:

Dont use AIO's. They dont perform good enough to justify the cost over a top end air cooler.

The high-end units like the Corsair H115i do beat out some of the high-end air coolers. 

[jevjev]

6 minutes ago, SolarNova said:

£1200 budget wouldnt fit well for a custom loop, you would have to sacrifice performance to get a good loop.

Sugest sticking with a high end aircooler for now. Add in a loop later.

 

Dont use AIO's. They dont perform good enough to justify the cost over a top end air cooler. They are only really usfull in small form factor builds where large heatsinks cant fit.

as it stands the pc im thinking of costs £900-£1000 so that would leave me with £200 for a cpu block and a water cooling kit but i could save up what would you say i should spend for a water cooled pc?

[Fasauceome]

9 minutes ago, SolarNova said:

A good "semi-premium" Intel i7 bassed build will cost you more than £1200.

not really sure what this price point comes from, this is $1500 US. That's definitely premium, not "semi premium." Step it up from there and core i9 is in reach.

[jevjev]

4 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

As this is your first ever PC build an AIO in this case would make more sense for you, building a custom loop requires a lot of time and dedication as well as the regular maintenance to keep the loop in good shape and performing correctly.  

i might go with an aio but none of them suit the style i would like

 

[SolarNova]

6 minutes ago, jevjev said:

as it stands the pc im thinking of costs £900-£1000 so that would leave me with £200 for a cpu block and a water cooling kit but i could save up what would you say i should spend for a water cooled pc?

 Well lets say you built a semi premium high end machine like this

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor  (£308.00 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£99.99 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£177.00 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£87.59 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB FTW3 GAMING iCX Video Card  (£718.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Thermaltake - Core X31 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£91.49 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£94.96 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1578.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-22 14:55 BST+0100

You then add on a GPU block, CPU block, a Large 360 rad, a pump, a res, a bunch of fittings, and tubing.

of the top of my head i'd say another £300-400

[jevjev]

2 minutes ago, SolarNova said:

 Well lets say you built a semi premium high end machine like this

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor  (£308.00 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler  (£79.99 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£99.99 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£177.00 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£87.59 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB FTW3 GAMING iCX Video Card  (£718.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Thermaltake - Core X31 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£91.49 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£94.96 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1658.01
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-22 14:53 BST+0100

You then add on a GPU block, CPU block, a Large 360 rad, a pump, a res, a bunch of fittings, and tubing.

what if i went with this and upgraded the gpu later with a gpu block for a 1080ti

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/B2KQGG

and then got a cpu block and water cooling kit i could then upgrade the gpu later?

 

[3 Lions]

2 minutes ago, jevjev said:

i might go with an aio but none of them suit the style i would like

 

Never build a PC just for the looks, you've got to think about what is practical for you as a user. I suggest you buy an AIO first, keep that for about 2 years then once you feel it is the right time to build a custom loop go and build it. 

[jevjev]

2 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Never build a PC just for the looks, you've got to think about what is practical for you as a user. I suggest you buy an AIO first, keep that for about 2 years then once you feel it is the right time to build a custom loop go and build it. 

i mainly go for looks my original budget was £800 but for looks and water cooling i moved it up to £1200 as im going to be gaming mainly so i thogh of buying this https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/B2KQGG getting a water cooling kit and upgrade the gpu to a 1080ti and water block later on but if i cant fit it in the budget an aio will have to do for now i just dont like the look of the black sleeved tubes

[SolarNova]

8 minutes ago, jevjev said:

what if i went with this and upgraded the gpu later with a gpu block for a 1080ti

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/B2KQGG

and then got a cpu block and water cooling kit i could then upgrade the gpu later?

 

You 'could' go that route but ur wasting money in the long run. Also even EK's entry kits are £200+, without a GPU block.

 

A full custom loop with asthetics in mind isnt somthing u can/should do on a lower end budget. Its an enthusiast thing, its expensive.

 

Personaly i would recommend a £2000 budget. Thats for a top of the line PC + waterloop parts.

[3 Lions]

2 minutes ago, jevjev said:

i mainly go for looks my original budget was £800 but for looks and water cooling i moved it up to £1200 as im going to be gaming mainly so i thogh of buying this https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/B2KQGG getting a water cooling kit and upgrade the gpu to a 1080ti and water block later on but if i cant fit it in the budget an aio will have to do for now i just dont like the look of the black sleeved tubes

To be brutally honest you'd be wasting your money water cooling an i5, I know it's unlocked but a high-end air cooler would be enough for that. 

[Enderman]

Get a heatsink or AIO.

Unless you want to spend half of your budget on watercooling and end up with a crappy $700 PC.

[SolarNova]

let me put it this way.

My rig u see in my sig.

It started with a Nh-D14 aircooler. No loop. I built the system 1st using all my budget. Then later i added in CPU loop. Then added the GPU later down the line when the Classified block was released..

[jevjev]

7 minutes ago, SolarNova said:

You 'could' go that route but ur wasting money in the long run. Also even EK's entry kits are £200+, without a GPU block.

 

A full custom loop with asthetics in mind isnt somthing u can/should do on a lower end budget. Its an enthusiast thing, its expensive.

 

Personaly i would recommend a £2000 budget. Thats for a top of the line PC + waterloop parts.

 

5 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

To be brutally honest you'd be wasting your money water cooling an i5, I know it's unlocked but a high-end air cooler would be enough for that. 

 

3 minutes ago, Enderman said:

Get a heatsink or AIO.

Unless you want to spend half of your budget on watercooling and end up with a crappy $700 PC.

thanks for the advice i will go with an aio for now then and save up for a water cooling loop later on

[SolarNova]

2 minutes ago, jevjev said:

 

 

thanks for the advice i will go with an aio for now then and save up for a water cooling loop later on

Still sugest you get a top end aircooler. AIO's are a waste money when you can fit a large tower cooler. Your choice though

[3 Lions]

4 minutes ago, jevjev said:

thanks for the advice i will go with an aio for now then and save up for a water cooling loop later on

From the impression I got you were wanting an i7 8700K which is top of the line and a CPU that should warrant the use of water cooling, after you reveled you were wanting an i5 8600K a high-end air cooler is all you need. Don't bother with water cooling.  

Edited July 22, 2018 by LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo

[3 Lions]

3 minutes ago, SolarNova said:

Still sugest you get a top end aircooler. AIO's are a waste money when you can fit a large tower cooler. Your choice though

AIO's are worth the money if you have hardware that can warrant the use of it, in this case the OP is wanting an i5 8600K which doesn't warrant the use of water cooling. 

[jevjev]

3 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

AIO's are worth the money if you have hardware that can warrant the use of it, in this case the OP is wanting an i5 8600K which doesn't warrant the use of water cooling. 

i will probably do this 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/37YCD2

and upgrade later in the future to a gtx 11 series when they release and water cool then

[3 Lions]

1 minute ago, jevjev said:

i will probably do this 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/37YCD2

and upgrade later in the future to a gtx 11 series when they release and water cool then

Which CPU are you going for? 

 

You link a list with an 8700K then you link one with an 8600K. 

[jevjev]

2 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Which CPU are you going for? 

 

You link a list with an 8700K then you link one with an 8600K. 

8700k as ive decided to get a better cpu and gpu and get water cooling later on when the gtx 11 series releases

[3 Lions]

1 minute ago, jevjev said:

8700k as ive decided to get a better cpu and gpu and get water cooling later on when the gtx 11 series releases

For some reason I still get the impression that you are still undecided in what you want, take some time to think it over and come back with a proper plan.