best psu for this build (the cheaper the better)

[YourNewPalAlex]

9 minutes ago, stealth80 said:

You know the Ryzen comes with a cooler that’s perfectly capable of handling reasonable overclocks? 

Secondly, you can go with a b350 board if you want which will save money, but you can’t guardroom it will be on the latest bios for compatibility, a risk I wouldn’t advise unless you can loan a Ryzen one to flash the bios. 

Lastly, keep throwing your arms around in a tantrum cause you wanted to spend $800 on a gpu to play on a tv that won’t even get the best of the gpu whilst powering it with a hot potato that will burn out and kill your flashy gpu when it decides the workload is too much, we’re here to offer advice, not pat your back and tell you your stupid idea is actually fine 

Is this one of my stupid ideas?

 

also check this vid out by jay. He tries to overclock the ryzen on the stock cooler. He overclocks it yeah but the temps are like 90C and when he opens task manager the pc crashes. 

 

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NxVh3b
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NxVh3b/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($178.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B360M PRO-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($55.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($149.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.90 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  ($469.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($56.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($53.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Monitor: Acer - XG270HU 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor  ($359.66 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Total: $1369.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-02 17:17 EDT-0400

[stealth80]

2 minutes ago, YourNewPalAlex said:

Is this one of my stupid ideas?

 

also check this vid out by jay. He tries to overclock the ryzen on the stock cooler. He overclocks it yeah but the temps are like 90C and when he opens task manager the pc crashes. 

 

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NxVh3b
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NxVh3b/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($178.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B360M PRO-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($55.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($149.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.90 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  ($469.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($56.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($53.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Monitor: Acer - XG270HU 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor  ($359.66 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Total: $1369.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-02 17:17 EDT-0400

Ok I said a reasonable overclock, remember it’s much easier to add an aftermarket cooler later when you have more money than it is to swap out a piece of hardware that you cut corners on due to budget. The above build is pretty solid, I would personally go with the Ryzen I suggested maybe using that monitor in your list. Reason - 12 threads, some games already use 8, and it had the faster ram - if you can be certain about the bios state you could go with a b350 board and save a little more, or add a little more and go with a 2700x. After that save a little cash and add in an aio or aftermarket air cooler 

[YourNewPalAlex]

1 minute ago, stealth80 said:

Ok I said a reasonable overclock, remember it’s much easier to add an aftermarket cooler later when you have more money than it is to swap out a piece of hardware that you cut corners on due to budget. The above build is pretty solid, I would personally go with the Ryzen I suggested maybe using that monitor in your list. Reason - 12 threads, some games already use 8, and it had the faster ram - if you can be certain about the bios state you could go with a b350 board and save a little more, or add a little more and go with a 2700x. After that save a little cash and add in an aio or aftermarket air cooler 

idk man just paying so much money for a gpu that is not "high end" just fucking slices me in half.

[stealth80]

15 minutes ago, YourNewPalAlex said:

idk man just paying so much money for a gpu that is not "high end" just fucking slices me in half.

Keep in mind new cards are inbound from Nv as well, around July/August depends when you build I guess. But for me, it’s intel only at 8700k, everything else is Ryzen right now (I know someone is gonna hate on that)

 

but please dont go 1080ti for a tv, occasionally I sit back in the couch and do some 4K (I’m on a 1080 on water) and the input lag and refresh is fucking horrible vs my gsync monitor. It’s ok as I said for the occasional thing and depends on the game, racing games are impossible, cause of input lag

[YourNewPalAlex]

1 minute ago, stealth80 said:

Keep in mind new cards are inbound from Nv as well, around July/August depends when you build I guess. But for me, it’s intel only at 8700k, everything else is Ryzen right now (I know someone is gonna hate on that)

 

but please dont go 1080ti for a tv, occasionally I sit back in the couch and do some 4K (I’m on a 1080 on water) and the input lag and refresh is fucking horrible vs my gsync monitor. It’s ok as I said for the occasional thing and depends on the game, racing games are impossible, cause of input lag

i know either way i can play racing games on 4k with 1070! from watching benchmarks, and i know i can play well optimized fps games like battlefield 1 with a 1070 ti so i guess it can handle it? also nvidia said there gonna talk about their new gpus at august so i guess a new gpu series is coming? if so should i wait?

[Motifator]

5 minutes ago, stealth80 said:

But for me, it’s intel only at 8700k, everything else is Ryzen right now (I know someone is gonna hate on that)

8600K is a really good CPU too. Intel will also release a limited edition 5ghz 6 core 8700K successor.
 

[YourNewPalAlex]

1 minute ago, Motifator said:

8600K is a really good CPU too. Intel will also release a limited edition 5ghz 6 core 8700K successor.
 

i7-8086K a 40yr anniversary 

[stealth80]

3 minutes ago, Motifator said:

8600K is a really good CPU too. Intel will also release a limited edition 5ghz 6 core 8700K successor.
 

Rumoured, and I hope it’s true, competition is good for innovation.

 

7 minutes ago, YourNewPalAlex said:

i know either way i can play racing games on 4k with 1070! from watching benchmarks, and i know i can play well optimized fps games like battlefield 1 with a 1070 ti so i guess it can handle it? also nvidia said there gonna talk about their new gpus at august so i guess a new gpu series is coming? if so should i wait?

I’m not sure about BF1 at 4K, I guess I can try with my 1080 on my tv tomorrow, but it’s not something I would wanna do, I have a high end Samsung 4K and even in gaming mode the j out lag makes me rage 

[YourNewPalAlex]

1 minute ago, stealth80 said:

Rumoured, and I hope it’s true, competition is good for innovation.

 

I’m not sure about BF1 at 4K, I guess I can try with my 1080 on my tv tomorrow, but it’s not something I would wanna do, I have a high end Samsung 4K and even in gaming mode the j out lag makes me rage 

check out this vid. He has an i7-8700K but at 4k it wont make a big diffrence because the gpu bottlenecks the cpu

[Princess Luna]

pcpartpicker shows right now the cheapest PSU in the USA that could fit a high end system is this one:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sMM323/evga-supernova-g3-550w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-g3-0550

[YourNewPalAlex]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

pcpartpicker shows right now the cheapest PSU in the USA that could fit a high end system is this one:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sMM323/evga-supernova-g3-550w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-g3-0550

yeah i found that guy for 53$ i think its a good psu and im pretty sure it can handle a 1080 ti

[stealth80]

Just now, YourNewPalAlex said:

check out this vid. He has an i7-8700K but at 4k it wont make a big diffrence because the gpu bottlenecks the cpu

Yes ofc, there would be no difference at any res if the game is gpu bound. That’s why most cpu gaming benchmarks are done at 720 or 1080p. Gpu development is well ahead of cpu, I remember when 1080p was the equivalent of 4K, it takes a while but 4K will slowly become the new norm 

[YourNewPalAlex]

1 minute ago, stealth80 said:

Yes ofc, there would be no difference at any res if the game is gpu bound. That’s why most cpu gaming benchmarks are done at 720 or 1080p. Gpu development is well ahead of cpu, I remember when 1080p was the equivalent of 4K, it takes a while but 4K will slowly become the new norm 

well he runs it on ultra at 40-50 fps which is not bad.

[Princess Luna]

Just now, YourNewPalAlex said:

yeah i found that guy for 53$ i think its a good psu and im pretty sure it can handle a 1080 ti

Yes you see I understand your struggle, you're spend a lot of money you want the best possible for your spending and I'm fine with that however there is no point in cheap up the hell out of the ONE component that can blow up and destroy all your other hardware...

 

Losing a brand new 1080 Ti because the PSU end up frying itself during high load is simply not worth the 20~30 dollars saving... the risks are real.

 

 

[YourNewPalAlex]

7 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Yes you see I understand your struggle, you're spend a lot of money you want the best possible for your spending and I'm fine with that however there is no point in cheap up the hell out of the ONE component that can blow up and destroy all your other hardware...

 

Losing a brand new 1080 Ti because the PSU end up frying itself during high load is simply not worth the 20~30 dollars saving... the risks are real.

 

 

\: thx for understanding.....i just dont wanna pay so much money on stuff that doesn't increase performance but is so expensive! If you pay 20$ more for a psu and 30$ more for a case and 20$ for higher speed ram(only for intel it doesn't matter, i know ryzen loves his ram speeds), that's a total for 70$ for nothing. With those 70$ you can sqeeze in a better gpu or cpu or anything. Idk maybe you guys are right, i am a junk of laughter at the end of the day.

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, YourNewPalAlex said:

.

Nowadays every thing can become a bottleneck, even memory... since we got into DDR4 there actually has been noteworth difference:

Frequency > Raw Amount.

[YourNewPalAlex]

7 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Nowadays every thing can become a bottleneck, even memory... since we got into DDR4 there actually has been noteworth difference:

Frequency > Raw Amount.

hmm.. what if i dropped the ram from 16 to 8 and upped the cpu?

[stealth80]

2 minutes ago, YourNewPalAlex said:

hmm.. what if i dropped the ram from 16 to 8 and upped the cpu?

Then you lose half the bandwidth and you’re in the same position, albeit with a more solid foundation and a future fix without having to change major hardware. 

 

The build i suggested is about the best you best you can do with you money, immona ryzen 1709 And fps is great (albeit I’m 1440p) 

[YourNewPalAlex]

7 minutes ago, stealth80 said:

Then you lose half the bandwidth and you’re in the same position, albeit with a more solid foundation and a future fix without having to change major hardware. 

 

The build i suggested is about the best you best you can do with you money, immona ryzen 1709 And fps is great (albeit I’m 1440p) 

I removed 8 gb of ram, switched to ryzen This is the best i could come up with

[YourNewPalAlex]

8 minutes ago, stealth80 said:

Then you lose half the bandwidth and you’re in the same position, albeit with a more solid foundation and a future fix without having to change major hardware. 

 

The build i suggested is about the best you best you can do with you money, immona ryzen 1709 And fps is great (albeit I’m 1440p) 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bLXTYT
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bLXTYT/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3GHz 8-Core Processor  ($220.98 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($88.02 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($80.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.90 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AMP Extreme Video Card  ($799.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Deepcool - DUKASE V2 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1328.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-02 18:39 EDT-0400

[stealth80]

10 minutes ago, YourNewPalAlex said:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bLXTYT
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bLXTYT/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3GHz 8-Core Processor  ($220.98 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($88.02 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($80.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.90 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AMP Extreme Video Card  ($799.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Deepcool - DUKASE V2 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1328.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-02 18:39 EDT-0400

Ok here’s what I suggest, the 1170 will have around 1080ti performance, I would wait. If you can’t wait, there’s no need to go with a 1080ti, my 1080 (not much more than 1070ti) is more than adept at 1440p. The Ryzen 1700 is a good price but the cooler on the first gen isn’t as good as the 2xxx series. Mine in water never goes over 58c at 1.38v, 4.05 ghz. 

 

Also ryzen needs fast ram, even 2666 will give some bottlenecks 

[YourNewPalAlex]

Just now, stealth80 said:

Ok here’s what I suggest, the 1170 will have around 1080ti performance, I would wait. If you can’t wait, there’s no need to go with a 1080ti, my 1080 (not much more than 1070ti) is more than adept at 1440p. The Ryzen 1700 is a good price but the cooler on the first gen isn’t as good as the 2xxx series. Mine in water never goes over 58c at 1.38v, 4.05 ghz. 

 

Also ryzen needs fast ram, even 2666 will give some bottlenecks 

wait i though i put 3000mghz the hell. Also when will those gpus release? and how much will the 1170 be priced if it will have performance as 1080 ti

 

also ik the 1070 ti is like a bottled down 1080. 

 

the ryzen is awesome for the price, and its overclockable which is cool

[stealth80]

59 minutes ago, YourNewPalAlex said:

wait i though i put 3000mghz the hell. Also when will those gpus release? and how much will the 1170 be priced if it will have performance as 1080 ti

 

also ik the 1070 ti is like a bottled down 1080. 

 

the ryzen is awesome for the price, and its overclockable which is cool

Its all rumour, some say computeks, some say july/aug with FE arriving Aug. If you're building right now go with the 1070ti, unless you can find a 1080 at the same price 

[stealth80]

12 hours ago, YourNewPalAlex said:

wait i though i put 3000mghz the hell. Also when will those gpus release? and how much will the 1170 be priced if it will have performance as 1080 ti

 

also ik the 1070 ti is like a bottled down 1080. 

 

the ryzen is awesome for the price, and its overclockable which is cool

1170 pricing, I would guess around $500 on launch with around $650 for the 1180, a little more than the respective cards at pascals launch

[YourNewPalAlex]

3 hours ago, stealth80 said:

1170 pricing, I would guess around $500 on launch with around $650 for the 1180, a little more than the respective cards at pascals launch

not bad.