Nvidia reportedly planning on launching GTX 1060 variant with GP104 chip

[Jurrunio]

12 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

memory capacity isn't the only difference as others have mentioned before and Nvidia's naming scheme does not suggest that there is a cuda core difference.

 

The 1060 3GB has 10% fewer cuda cores and Nvidia does not advertise this at all.

I agree that Nvidia could have done this better. They could have called the 1060 3gb a '1060 SE' and/or 1060 6gb as '1060ti', just like 560 SE and 560ti.

[Guest The Viking]

6 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

 

Guys remember: Nvidia said in a press statement about the GPP that they wanted to avoid consumer confusion....

 

I think I'm getting a nosebleed of trying to figure this out but these motherfuckers claim they want to avoid confusion.

hold my beer!

 

here's the special edition 

 

gtx1060 3gb 2 year anniversary, clocking up 5% higher!

gtx1060 6gb 2 year anniversary, clocking up 20% higher!

 

but that's not all. See this 1070ti? here, a 1070tii, overclockable to a 1080!

 

still clear enough?

 

here, have a mx150 with 3 variants, 'cause why not!

 

 

edit: ok, ok, let's shit on AMD too, ok. I present you the RX680! 5% higher clocks compared to a 580, 15% more power consumption, 30% beefier cooler!

[Arika]

2 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

 

Guys remember: Nvidia said in a press statement about the GPP that they wanted to avoid consumer confusion....

 

I think I'm getting a nosebleed of trying to figure this out but these motherfuckers claim they want to avoid confusion.

reminds me of that bullshit nintendo pulled calling their product the "new 3ds"

[AlTech]

6 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

 

Guys remember: Nvidia said in a press statement about the GPP that they wanted to avoid consumer confusion....

 

I think I'm getting a nosebleed of trying to figure this out but these motherfuckers claim they want to avoid confusion.

 

 

Nvidia's lying lol . Diagram not to scale. 1px = 1km .

[TechyBen]

8 minutes ago, leadeater said:

I just hate pointless dumb naming when there is no need for it, my car is bad enough with it being a Type S variant yet not actually displayed on the badge at all.

That's ok, next time you order "pizza" I am sure they will put anchovies and all that stuff you don't like, because naming schemes are stupid.

 

 

You are right, naming codes are stupid, but naming things/products is helpful!

 

<- Wants the pizza toppings *noted* before purchase... and no, I don't want a "grande" or a "royal" I want a "large coffee" and a "chicken burger".

[AlTech]

Just now, TechyBen said:

That's ok, next time you order "pizza" I am sure they will put anchovies and all that stuff you don't like, because naming schemes are stupid.

 

 

You are right, naming codes are stupid, but naming things/products is helpful!

 

<- Wants the pizza toppings *noted* before purchase... and no, I don't want a "grande" or a "royal" I want a "large coffee" and a "chicken burger".

Stay on Target Topic Guys D: 

 

Anyhow, I do think Nvidia's lineup is wayyyy too confusing rn.

[laminutederire]

2 minutes ago, TechyBen said:

That's ok, next time you order "pizza" I am sure they will put anchovies and all that stuff you don't like, because naming schemes are stupid.

 

 

You are right, naming codes are stupid, but naming things/products is helpful!

 

<- Wants the pizza toppings *noted* before purchase... and no, I don't want a "grande" or a "royal" I want a "large coffee" and a "chicken burger".

I think his point was more that we need clear naming schemes and no weird schemes like Nvidia's!

[Jurrunio]

32 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Stay on Target Topic Guys D: 

 

Anyhow, I do think Nvidia's lineup is wayyyy too confusing rn.

there's also Intel. Instead of multiple products sharing the same name, Intel batches a bunch of similar products into similar names, seperating them with  confusing numbers.

[leadeater]

17 minutes ago, TechyBen said:

That's ok, next time you order "pizza" I am sure they will put anchovies and all that stuff you don't like, because naming schemes are stupid.

 

 

You are right, naming codes are stupid, but naming things/products is helpful!

 

<- Wants the pizza toppings *noted* before purchase... and no, I don't want a "grande" or a "royal" I want a "large coffee" and a "chicken burger".

That's not what a meant, if my car is a Type S it would be nice for it to be displayed as such on the badge.... You know like the 1060 vs 1060 oh wait lol

[Princess Luna]

Only thing I can think of is that nVidia has a bunch of GP104 chips malfunctioning and wants to get their money back someway.

[Jurrunio]

18 minutes ago, leadeater said:

That's not what a meant, if my car is a Type S it would be nice for it to be displayed as such on the badge.... You know like the 1060 vs 1060 oh wait lol

Does your car have increased power output than the non-S version?

[LAwLz]

31 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

there's also Intel. Instead of multiple products sharing the same name, Intel batches a bunch of similar products into similar names, seperating them with  confusing numbers.

No... That is the proper way of naming products.

Forget shitty names. Give products numbers which clearly shows that they are different products.

That is also how AMD names their CPUs.

[leadeater]

48 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Does your car have increased power output than the non-S version?

Different front bumper, 4 wheel steer, 2 way LSD, larger and wider wheels, upgraded brakes (4 piston F 2 piston R vs 1 F 1 R) but same engine output. Not a minor difference though, esp the wheels but that's mainly cost of tyres (Bridgestone RE050A 225/50 R 18 W (F); 245/45 R 18 W (R)) but it's not like graphic cards have that type of maintenance thankfully. Imaging having to change the fans every 2 years or something.

[porina]

55 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Anyhow, I do think Nvidia's lineup is wayyyy too confusing rn.

Are we over-thinking it? With small exceptions, in the current lineup bigger number is better. You know where in the scale you are buying into.

 

1030 > 1050 > 1050 Ti > 1060 3GB > 1060 6GB (6 is bigger than 3) > 1070 > 1070 Ti > 1080 > 1080 Ti > Titan X (Pascal) a.k.a. XP unofficially > Titan Xp

 

Arguably the only known confusion points are the two 1030 ram type models, and Titan X name reuse. Given the old one was Maxwell I could argue it isn't in the current series. If the new 1060's behave the same as the old 1060's, does it matter the chips inside aren't identical? Maybe there'll be a minor difference to niche interest users like competitive overclockers, but for regular gamers it doesn't matter.

 

What might be a fairer question is do we need all these models... Counting 1030 as a single choice for now, and only the Titan Xp as currently offered, that's 9 steps to choose between.

 

[AlTech]

20 minutes ago, porina said:

Are we over-thinking it? With small exceptions, in the current lineup bigger number is better. You know where in the scale you are buying into.

 

1030 > 1050 > 1050 Ti > 1060 3GB > 1060 6GB (6 is bigger than 3) > 1070 > 1070 Ti > 1080 > 1080 Ti > Titan X (Pascal) a.k.a. XP unofficially > Titan Xp

 

Arguably the only known confusion points are the two 1030 ram type models, and Titan X name reuse. Given the old one was Maxwell I could argue it isn't in the current series. If the new 1060's behave the same as the old 1060's, does it matter the chips inside aren't identical? Maybe there'll be a minor difference to niche interest users like competitive overclockers, but for regular gamers it doesn't matter.

 

What might be a fairer question is do we need all these models... Counting 1030 as a single choice for now, and only the Titan Xp as currently offered, that's 9 steps to choose between.

 

Yeah. The difference between some of them is too little to warrant having a dedicated model.

[Dylanc1500]

35 minutes ago, leadeater said:

Different front bumper, 4 wheel steer, 2 way LSD, larger and wider wheels, upgraded brakes (4 piston F 2 piston R vs 1 F 1 R) but same engine output. Not a minor difference though, esp the wheels but that's mainly cost of tyres (Bridgestone RE050A 225/50 R 18 W (F); 245/45 R 18 W (R)) but it's not like graphic cards have that type of maintenance thankfully. Imaging having to change the fans every 2 years or something.

Everyone knows you need to change your graphics fluid every 3000hrs or it can lock up.

[Jurrunio]

1 hour ago, LAwLz said:

No... That is the proper way of naming products.

Forget shitty names. Give products numbers which clearly shows that they are different products.

That is also how AMD names their CPUs.

I should add that it's a combination of a lot of numbers, a lot of suffix (letters at the back), and refreshes also increasing the model number just like a new generation.

 

Back in the past, 4th gen i5 is the most messy. 4430, 4440, 4460, 4570, 4590, 4670, 4690 are the only ones without suffix, and 3 are Haswell refresh which needs newer BIOS revisions of 80 series chipset motherboards to work. There is nothing in the name that can tell which are Haswell, which are Haswell refresh.

Dont forget that there are 49 other 4th gen i5s as well. There are S sku, K sku, U sku, HQ sku, H sku, Y sku, T sku, TE sku, M sku, R sku and EC sku. Especially, try compare the performance between an S sku with a large number, say 4690S, to a standard sku with a small number, say the 4430, without looking at benchmarks.

 

AMD on the other hand, do not have so many suffix in their CPU names. In the past, having an E means it has lower TDP, having K means the multiplier is unlocked (though later CPUs are all unlocked even without a K). With Ryzen, G means integrated graphics, E means lower TDP, X means expensive. That's it. Core count and clock speed differences are clearly marked out except the FM socket series and Ryzen (Ryzen 5 to be specific).

[leadeater]

7 minutes ago, Dylanc1500 said:

Everyone knows you need to change your graphics fluid every 3000hrs or it can lock up.

And rotate the VRMs, gotta keep that electron flow wear even 

[TheRandomness]

The GTX 1060 3GB GP104 variant already exists.

[Dylanc1500]

12 minutes ago, leadeater said:

And rotate the VRMs, gotta keep that electron flow wear even 

Lord help the people that take this seriously lol. On second thought, maybe I can see if I can talk my buddy's kids into going to microcenter for it...

[LAwLz]

14 minutes ago, leadeater said:

And rotate the VRMs, gotta keep that electron flow wear even 

No, do not touch the VRMs. They are soldered to the board for crying out loud.

It's the CPU you need to rotate, in order to evenly wear out the cores.

[TheRandomness]

34 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

oh right, good catch o_o what's the source aga--

 

...

Yeah I know it's the GPU database, I spoke to the owner of it and they said it was sourced from people sending him actual pictures

[bcredeur97]

soooooo many 1060's

welp. Just never buy a 1060 guys and we can't get confused right?

[TechyBen]

6 hours ago, leadeater said:

That's not what a meant, if my car is a Type S it would be nice for it to be displayed as such on the badge.... You know like the 1060 vs 1060 oh wait lol

Ah. That's ok. That I can agree with. The problem for cars I think comes down to having lots of different "skus" (I forget the term for cars) and a lack of actual sticky letters to put on the rear.

 

But the 1060 is only going to have fans as aftermarket parts... or even totally redesigned boards are going to be done via manufactures of the card, not of the chip... it's Intel who decide on the chip design... and are I suppose like the engine design of cars... so if a car engine company started creating lots of different engine skus, with different HP stats, and not tell anyone, I can see car buyers being really annoyed "but it said it was a V8!!!"

[corsairian]

2 of these would be a steal if you could SLI them.