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Just now, Mel0nMan said:

Great terminal (and gorgeous picture)! 

What do you have it plugged into? 

Only the wall, it has some very basic functionality like word processing and calculations but can not save anything. I have plans for it at some point to hook it up to a raspberry pi to use it as a terminal for my server.

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3 minutes ago, Brian McKee said:

Only the wall, it has some very basic functionality like word processing and calculations but can not save anything. I have plans for it at some point to hook it up to a raspberry pi to use it as a terminal for my server.

Good luck with that, then! 

Wyse is one of those rare companies that's been around for what, 40? 50? years and haven't changed their business model. I work with their thin clients a little. 

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Woah it's been a while since I've been on here. We're in the middle of Reno's and moving though so have been very busy.

 

A shot of *most* of my old machines staged to go up to the interior. We will be somewhat space limited for the next couple years but we will eventually be building a new place, which also means a new workshop. The container were storing a lot of our stuff in I'll probably be converting into my new computer workshop.

 

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13 hours ago, Mel0nMan said:

Good luck with that, then! 

Wyse is one of those rare companies that's been around for what, 40? 50? years and haven't changed their business model. I work with their thin clients a little. 

Didn't Dell buy out Wyse and just re-brand them as the Dell line of thin clients?

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Question:

I've got a 1.2MB 5.25" floppy drive on it's way and a 1.44MB 3.5" floppy drive on the way.  If the system i have is compatible with both of those.  (one has the edge connector the other the standard floppy) and i get a cable with both those connectors on it.  Will i be able to use the one lead and plug both of them in to the floppy header on the board? and have it set as A: and B: ?  I remember that how you had to set up multiple IDE HDDs back in the day but have never done it with floppy drives before.  Will there be jumpers on the drives to set a master/slave priority like with said IDE HDDs?

 

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This is the lead i have coming:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005JY6UQU/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 With all the Trolls, Try Hards, Noobs and Weirdos around here you'd think i'd find SOMEWHERE to fit in!

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14 minutes ago, SimplyChunk said:

Question:

I've got a 1.2MB 5.25" floppy drive on it's way and a 1.44MB 3.5" floppy drive on the way.  If the system i have is compatible with both of those.  (one has the edge connector the other the standard floppy) and i get a cable with both those connectors on it.  Will i be able to use the one lead and plug both of them in to the floppy header on the board? and have it set as A: and B: ?  I remember that how you had to set up multiple IDE HDDs back in the day but have never done it with floppy drives before.  Will there be jumpers on the drives to set a master/slave priority like with said IDE HDDs?

 

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This is the lead i have coming:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005JY6UQU/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I've got shitloads of the very same cables - as long as you stick to the 5.25" FDD plugged into the first edge connector, and have the 3.5" FDD on the last standard connector (aka after the twist) everything will be fine. If you are using boot discs (eg Win95 boot disc) you must have the 3.5" drive at the end as A - found that out the hard way yesterday.

Because of the twist in the cable there are no jumpers needed. You will need to change the settings in the BIOS regarding the installed FDD manually - I personally haven't seen a board with a BIOS smart enough to auto detect FDD.

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So last week Monday I think it was I randomly opened a Bulgarian website similar to craigslist. Decided to browse the ads that show up on the homepage of the webiste and saw an inetresting ad - a guy was selling 4 PCs for 10 lv. each (~$5.31 USD), said they were imported from Germany and he was selling them how he got them (untested). Two of the PCs I found interesting (there were only pictures of the outside) and decided to buy them. So with shipping I spent a total of 37 lv. (~$19.66 USD), shipping says they are 22 kg in total. I recieved them "packaged" with little packaging foil on the sides and that was it, though they had no shipping damage which is good. So what did I get?

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Well, neither had a GPU or HDD. The orange one (on the sticker on the front in the middle it says 'Powered by ASUS') had no RAM either, the black Medion had a single stick 1GB DDR2.

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This case has some rust and this is the worst of it:

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And the Medion:

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And there's a place for an axternal HDD on the top of the case? Is this what this is? I have no idea.

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On this one I imideately noticed two things - the PSU has been opened (not the right screws) and it had two bad caps.

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I opened the PSU and there was a loose screw inside it, though except missing or wrong screws everething else seems normal, it works fine.

I decided to test them. First I tried to test the Medion, installed a GPU in it, but it didn't boot, just beeped. I decided to change the caps later and try again. Went on to test the orange one (put the RAM and GPU from the Medion in this one). Plugged it in and nothing, no signs of life. PSU semeed questionable.

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So I decided to test with a different PSU.

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And it works.

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Plugged in power to the CD drive and put a Hiren's boot CD in it. CD drive works as well and it booted just fine. Floppy doesn't work though.

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So far so good. Took the Medion's motherboard (it's a MSI MS-7502). So I tried to change the bad caps with goods ones from another dead motherboard. It didn't go as planned....

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When I tried desoldering the bad caps they fell apart and I decided instead of struggling to unsolder the pieces, just to solder the 'new' caps on the bottom, it seemed there was plenty of space in the case there. Well, yes and no. The cap on the left in the picture fits perfectly fine, but the other one didn't fit, so I had to modify the case a bit. It doesn't look good, but it works (both for my soldering and the modification of the case).

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Of course before I went on to modify the case I tested if it works. Changed the CMOS battery as well and it works.

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So I installed it in the case. The PSU it had when I bought it I put in the orange PC and in this one I put a FSP Group 250W PSU. The PSU it came with, while it works, is definitely not from this PC, it didn't even have SATA power, the FSP one has.

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I also put a 250GB HDD with Windows 11 installed (it was in a different PC I built out of spare parts to test Win11 when it came out). Turned it on and it stared booting.

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After about 3-4 minutes it had booted and even had installed all the drivers (the GPU I took from the PC I took the HDD from so it already had the GPU driver). Also it is not connected to the internet.

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I decided to try the sound (it doesn't work, though drivers are installed), when I clicked the sound icon and the menu opened I noticed something strange - a WiFi button active. Does this thing have WiFi? It does and it works, didn't expect this.

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So Windows 11 installed all drivers for this PC (except GPU driver) without internet, that was kinda unexpected. Though with a Dual-core CPU, 3GB DDR2 RAM and on a HDD, it won't be the best experience. For testing if this PC works at all, it did great. Tested the DVD drive as well and it works.

Honestly I'm happy I bought these PCs. The Medion I will definitely keep, but the other one I'm not sure (will probably sell the motherboard + CPU and keep the rest). Maybe I'll keep everything, not yet sure, but I have plenty of PCs, definetely more than I need. On the last three pictures the monitor is running at 85Hz and my phone's camera couldn't sync to it, when it ran at 60Hz picuters turned out great. Unfortunately, I remembered this too late and didn't have time to take new pictures.

Actually, is the Asus P5B motherboard worth keeping (the one in the orange PC)? Does anyone know what the orange case even is?

Main PC: Acer IPISB-VR│Intel Xeon E3-1270 3.4GHz│AeroCool AirFrost 4 with Noctua NF-A9│16GB DDR3 1600MHz Dual-channel│nVidia GeForce GTX1060 6GB│Cricual MX500 250GB SSD + WD Blue 1TB 7200rpm + Seagate 1TB 7200rpm│Windows 7 Pro x64 & Windows 11 Pro│CoolerMaster Silencio 352M│Seasonic M12II-520 EVO 520W│Acer SA220Q 22" 1920x1080

Secondary PC: MSI H81M-P33│Intel Core i7-4790 3.6GHz│DeepCool Ice Edge Mini FS V2│16GB DDR3 1866MHz (1600MHz) Dual-channel│AMD R9 270 2GB│WD Green 120GB SSD + Seagate 1TB│Windows 11 Pro│Acer Aspire M1930 case│CoolerMaster B500 v2 500W│Samsung S19B300 1366x768 & Fujitsu-Siemens P15-1 1024x768

Test PC/Nice XP PC: ASUS M2N│AMD Athlon64 x2 6000+ 3.1GHz│CoolerMaster unkown model│4GB DDR2 800MHz│nVidia GeForce 9500GT 1GB│Hitachi Deskstar 80GB 7200rpm + WD Raptor 74GB 10000 rpm│Windows 7 Pro x64 + Windows XP Pro SP3│TurboX Case│Zalman 450W│LG Flatron L1718S 17" 1280x1024

Future workshop PC: ASUS M4N68T-M-V2│AMD Phenom II x6 1055T 2.8GHz│Some 130W tower cooler│8GB DDR3 1333MHz Dual-channel│AMD Radeon HD4670 512MB│Samsung Spinpoint 640GB 7200rpm│Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64 + Windows Vista Ultimate SP2 32bit│Medion MD8840 case│Antec VP350P 350W│Lenovo L220x. 22" 1920x1200

HTPC: HP Elite 8200 USDT│Intel Core i7-2600s 2.8GHz│6GB DDR3 1333MHz Dual-channel│Intel HD Graphics 2000│WD Blue 1TB 5400rpm│Windows 7 Pro x64│JVC LT-32VF30K 32" 1920x1080

New Main laptop: HP ProBook 455 G9│AMD Ryzen 5 2625U 2.3GHz│16GB DDR4 3200MHz│AMD Radeon RX Vega 7│1TB NVMe SSD│Win 11 Pro│15.6" 1920x1080
Old Main laptop: HP EliteBook 8470p│Intel Core i7-3610QM 2.3GHz│16GB DDR3 1600MHz Dual-channel│Intel HD4000 Graphics│Kingston 240GB SSD│Win 7 Pro x64│14.1" 1600x900

Secondary laptop: HP EliteBook 8470p│Intel Corei7-3520M 2.9GHz│8GB DDR3 1600MHz Dual-channel│Intel HD4000 Graphics│2 x Crucial BX500 500GB SSDs│Win 7 Pro x64│14.1" 1600x900

Main phone: Sony Xperia X CompactOther phones: Sony Xperia L3, Sony Xperia Z3 Compact (x2){and both are dead now}, Sony Xperia E3, Sony Xperia Tipo + 12 more (not going not list everything)

Most other PCs and laptops I own:

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Small laptop: Acer Aspire One D255│Intel Atom N550 1.5GHz│2GB DDR3 1333MHz│Intel GMA3150 256MB│Western Digital 500GB 5400rpm KingDian S100 32GB Apacer AS350X 120GB SSD│Win 7 Ultimate x64 & Win 10 Pro x64 Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 32bit & Q4OS│10.1" 1024x600

Old secondary PC: ASUS A7V8X-X│AMD Sempron 3000+ 2.0GHz│Titan CPU Cooler│1.75GB DDR 400MHz│nVidia GeForce FX5700LE 256MB│2 x WesternDigital 40GB 7200rpm (sadly one seems to be dead)│Windows XP Pro SP3│Some case│Codegen 300XA 350W│Dell E173FP 17" 1280x1024 & Fujitsu-Siemens P15-1 1024x768Philips 200P4 20" 1600x1200

"The Old" PC: eMachines eTower 466i│Intel Celeron 466MHz│512MB RAM PC133│nVidia GeForce FX5200 128MB PCI ATi 3D Rage Pro AGP 2x_ 4MB│Seagate Baracuda 40GB 7200rpm│Windows 98SE & Windows XP Pro SP3│IBM P50 14" 1024x768 CRT

"The Floppy" laptop: Clevo 2700C│Intel Pentium III 1.1GHz│512MB PC133 SDRAM│SiS 630 32MB shared│Samsung 40GB│Windows XP Pro SP3│15" 1024x768

"The P4" laptop: HP Pavillion ZD8000│Intel Pentium 4 3.2GHz│2GB DDR2 666MHz Dual-channel│ATi Mobility Radeon X600 256MB│Seagate 100GB│Windows XP Pro SP3│17" 1440x900

Dell laptop: Dell Latitude D600│Intel Pentium M 1.6GHz│1.5GB DDR 333MHz│ATi Mobility Radeon 9000 64MB│40GB IDE│Windows XP Pro SP3│14.1"  1400x1050

Future workshop PC (dead): MSI MS-7302│Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 2.8GHz│Stock cooler│3GB DDR2 800MHz│AMD Radeon HD7470 2GB│Samsung Spinpoint 640GB 7200rpm│Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64 + Windows Vista Ultimate SP2 32bit│Medion MD8840│FSP Group 250W│Samsung SyncMaster 730bf 17" 1280x1024

Old Secondary PC: HP IPISB-CH│Intel Core i5-2320 3GHz│DeepCool Ice Edge Mini FS V2│8GB DDR3 1333MHz│AMD R9 270 2GB│WD Green 120GB SSD + WD Blue 1TB 2.5"│Windows 7 Ultimate x64│Acer Aspire M1930│CoolerMaster B500 v2 500W│Samsung S19B300 1366x768 & Fujitsu-Siemens P15-1 1024x768

 

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11 hours ago, Dabombinable said:

I've got shitloads of the very same cables - as long as you stick to the 5.25" FDD plugged into the first edge connector, and have the 3.5" FDD on the last standard connector (aka after the twist) everything will be fine. If you are using boot discs (eg Win95 boot disc) you must have the 3.5" drive at the end as A - found that out the hard way yesterday.

Because of the twist in the cable there are no jumpers needed. You will need to change the settings in the BIOS regarding the installed FDD manually - I personally haven't seen a board with a BIOS smart enough to auto detect FDD.

Look like i got some fun and games coming then.  I'm hoping once we've recovered all the Data from the floppy discs he's gonna wash his hands of it all like he did this HDD dock.  So i'll have a banging XP or 98se machine in the collection

 With all the Trolls, Try Hards, Noobs and Weirdos around here you'd think i'd find SOMEWHERE to fit in!

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5 minutes ago, SimplyChunk said:

Look like i got some fun and games coming then.  I'm hoping once we've recovered all the Data from the floppy discs he's gonna wash his hands of it all like he did this HDD dock.  So i'll have a banging XP or 98se machine in the collection

As it happens - me ordering a 5.25" FDD recently was because of these (the Chinon drive I was given years ago had a destroyed head):
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Nice, that orange/red case is a Cheiftec Dragon or whatever it got branded as there. A lot of companies used that chassis for custom builds, I have one from Koolance with an integrated water cooling system. Absolute UNIT of a case and built to last. It's worth repairing the cosmetic damages or stripping it to part out, it's hard to get the parts for them these days. I lost so many bits and baubles from mine that I wish I still had.

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25 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

As it happens - me ordering a 5.25" FDD recently was because of these (the Chinon drive I was given years ago had a destroyed head):
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I've managed to pick up a black facia 1.2MB Panasonic 5.25" from eBay. the guy was asking a bit much i think but i managed to persuede him to accept offers and saved my step dad 20 quid on it.  Plus he's given me a 14 day moneyback agreement so if it isn't working when it comes i can just get in touch.  I'm guessing if it works out the box it'll last long enough to swipe some CAD files off some floppies.  Only paid a tenner for the 3.5" Sony black facia drive posted.

 

Anything over say, 20-25 years old now isn't cheap anymore is it?

 With all the Trolls, Try Hards, Noobs and Weirdos around here you'd think i'd find SOMEWHERE to fit in!

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On the topic of old cases... anyone who might be willing to adopt this? It's a great case but I lack the space for it, and I'd rather it go to another enthusiast than be scrapped.

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It's almost 2x the height of a mATX, around the height of mATX+SFF. Weighs probably 15-20lbs on its own. I probably won't be shipping it. It's a SuperMicro, I forget the actual number though. No clue why it has to be so tall, there's absolutely nothing on the inside above the motherboard.

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Just now, Mel0nMan said:

On the topic of old cases... anyone who might be willing to adopt this? It's a great case but I lack the space for it, and I'd rather it go to another enthusiast than be scrapped.

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It's almost 2x the height of a mATX, around the height of mATX+SFF. Weighs probably 15-20lbs on its own. I probably won't be shipping it. It's a SuperMicro, I forget the actual number though. 

I'd love it..but you're...toooo....faaaarrr.......awaaaayyyy... lol

 With all the Trolls, Try Hards, Noobs and Weirdos around here you'd think i'd find SOMEWHERE to fit in!

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1 minute ago, Bitter said:

Is it made for redundant power supplies?

Nope. It's completely empty on the inside above the tray, 1 PSU cutout in the back. It seems to be just for the 5.25 bays but why would you ever need that many? Probably becuase it doesn't have any internal 3.5? 

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22 minutes ago, Mel0nMan said:

Nope. It's completely empty on the inside above the tray, 1 PSU cutout in the back. It seems to be just for the 5.25 bays but why would you ever need that many? Probably becuase it doesn't have any internal 3.5? 

Weird. Maybe from before 3.5 drives?

https://www.newegg.com/fairdog-5-bay-3-cd-rom-drive-to-5-x-3-5-bay/p/1B0-0179-00001

That would stuff some drives in it, if you wanted to use it for a NAS or something or if someone else did. I have similar bays in my Coolermaster which at the moment just hold fans because it's all NVME storage in this PC.

 

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3 minutes ago, Bitter said:

Weird. Maybe from before 3.5 drives?

https://www.newegg.com/fairdog-5-bay-3-cd-rom-drive-to-5-x-3-5-bay/p/1B0-0179-00001

That would stuff some drives in it, if you wanted to use it for a NAS or something or if someone else did. I have similar bays in my Coolermaster which at the moment just hold fans because it's all NVME storage in this PC.

 

Came with a crap ton of drive rails in the 3.5", and an equal amount of hard drives just sitting on the bottom of the case. (Those did not work.) 

Probably didn't predate 3.5", it's a late 90s-early 2000s case and double digit GB IDE drives was probably the target type. I recall no 3.5" except for FDD being a complaint in a review of it I read. It does have an internal 5.25" though, for half height 5.25" HDDs (strange, most 5.25" HDDs are full height) or that one CD you really like. 

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33 minutes ago, Mel0nMan said:

Came with a crap ton of drive rails in the 3.5", and an equal amount of hard drives just sitting on the bottom of the case. (Those did not work.) 

Probably didn't predate 3.5", it's a late 90s-early 2000s case and double digit GB IDE drives was probably the target type. I recall no 3.5" except for FDD being a complaint in a review of it I read. It does have an internal 5.25" though, for half height 5.25" HDDs (strange, most 5.25" HDDs are full height) or that one CD you really like. 

Truly a mystery. A case made to solve a problem that no one had.

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@Mel0nMan @Bitter It may have been full of removeable drive trays at one point.  Quick swap in and quick swap out was quite the luxury back then

 With all the Trolls, Try Hards, Noobs and Weirdos around here you'd think i'd find SOMEWHERE to fit in!

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2 minutes ago, SimplyChunk said:

@Mel0nMan @Bitter It may have been full of removeable drive trays at one point.  Quick swap in and quick swap out was quite the luxury back then

Might have been an application for this case but with IDE not being hotswap... 

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2 hours ago, Mel0nMan said:

Might have been an application for this case but with IDE not being hotswap... 

That didn't stop my highschool CAD and Networking lab from using them, just don't hot swap!

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