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[terrytek]

Exhaust wont breathe that much better without a header. Headers are a huge difference and should be the first thing you do. 

But it's such a pain in the ass to try to remove the header, let alone try to install a new one. Unlike my protege, which has the header right behind the radiator, the one in the ms6 is right in front of the firewall, and that's super cramped there.

 

I need TuV legal now. Or to cheese it and legalize it here and say "no, give me the inspection sticker because the government says so."

isn't that like a european standard? you're in america, don't worry about it.

[AlwaysFSX]

isn't that like a european standard? you're in america, don't worry about it.

I'm not for long..

[terrytek]

I'm not for long..

oh yeah. well there should be a box out there that's TuV certified.

[AlwaysFSX]

oh yeah. well there should be a box out there that's TuV certified.

I think my first concern is swapping an engine. I dunno if they're still strict assholes about that.

[terrytek]

I think my first concern is swapping an engine. I dunno if they're still strict assholes about that.

wait what part of europe do you plan to live in? scandinavia seem to be assholes about a lot of things, especially engine swaps. i assume you're trying to drive a mustang with a new crate engine in europe?

[AlwaysFSX]

wait what part of europe do you plan to live in? scandinavia seem to be assholes about a lot of things, especially engine swaps. i assume you're trying to drive a mustang with a new crate engine in europe?

Germany. And yes, that's my plan.

[terrytek]

Germany. And yes, that's my plan.

Then they probably won't mind, if you stick with their safety and emissions standards. but of course, i'm not german. talk to a real german about that. and i wish you good luck trying to get a running mustang in germany

[vetali]

But it's such a pain in the ass to try to remove the header, let alone try to install a new one. Unlike my protege, which has the header right behind the radiator, the one in the ms6 is right in front of the firewall, and that's super cramped there.

 

isn't that like a european standard? you're in america, don't worry about it.

The gains would be worth it though. But being in Cali, no way you could get an approved header. 

[AlwaysFSX]

Then they probably won't mind, if you stick with their safety and emissions standards. but of course, i'm not german. talk to a real german about that. and i wish you good luck trying to get a running mustang in germany

Oh it's not hard. I have the full ability to do it, just wonder how much paperwork I'll have to go through to force the Germans to allow my Frankensteined car. Could outright buy a new one but that's more money. But having it re-registered on the next date might be a pain.

 

I wish they'd just check if the electrical systems work and it passes emissions and sticker it instead of being so uptight. But I won't know for sure until I get there unless I can find the all the laws online.

[terrytek]

The gains would be worth it though. But being in Cali, no way you could get an approved header. 

It would, but like you said, it's next to impossible to find a 50 state legal header. Either i just go for this or i go for a smaller diameter pipe, like Magnaflow, but i need to know what the stock specs are first so i don't end up buying an aftermarket system with the same pipe diameter. And besides, the MS6 has a turbo, in case you forgot, and that's where the header connects, not to the exhaust system itself. so would i be looking for a downpipe instead?

[AlwaysFSX]

I found a Coyote crate cheaper.

[bcredeur97]

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[vetali]

It would, but like you said, it's next to impossible to find a 50 state legal header. Either i just go for this or i go for a smaller diameter pipe, like Magnaflow, but i need to know what the stock specs are first so i don't end up buying an aftermarket system with the same pipe diameter. And besides, the MS6 has a turbo, in case you forgot, and that's where the header connects, not to the exhaust system itself. so would i be looking for a downpipe instead?

Downpipe is past the turbo. 

 

Stock manifold: 

 

Random aftermarket header:

 

 

It'll deliver the exhaust more evenly and less restricted to the turbo. That manifold looks really restrictive. For perspective, even on a NA car a header is a big improvement. 

[terrytek]

Downpipe is past the turbo. 

 

Stock manifold: 

 

 

Random aftermarket header:

 

 

 

It'll deliver the exhaust more evenly and less restricted to the turbo. That manifold looks really restrictive. For perspective, even on a NA car a header is a big improvement. 

don't know. maybe. i was thinking of other upgrades, like air ride, new rims, exhaust, air intake, plastidipping the badges, halo headlights, as well as LED taillights.

[vetali]

don't know. maybe. i was thinking of other upgrades, like air ride, new rims, exhaust, air intake, plastidipping the badges, halo headlights, as well as LED taillights.

So basically you are turning it into a ricerburner honda?

[AlwaysFSX]

So basically you are turning it into a ricerburner honda?

Not if he does it tastefully.

[terrytek]

So basically you are turning it into a ricerburner honda?

Nope. I don't plan to stance it, just lower it, and maybe black out the car with some tint, and with black rims, black badges, and a black body, then it will look good.

 

Not if he does it tastefully.

I'll fine some nice looking lights that don't like something that came off a ricer.

[AlwaysFSX]

I can't find a clear list of TuV inspection laws.

[AlwaysFSX]

Nope. I don't plan to stance it, just lower it, and maybe black out the car with some tint, and with black rims, black badges, and a black body, then it will look good.

 

I'll fine some nice looking lights that don't like something that came off a ricer.

Well you can't do a blackout car and not have it look a bit rice-y..

[terrytek]

Well you can't do a blackout car and not have it look a bit rice-y..

Well it's better than having a ricer that shows off too much, with stupid spoilers, stupid rims, stupid everything. i'm trying to go for a clean look, and not alter the body much. i might go wide body kit for the car, but i feel like that's gonna be a money pit.

[vetali]

Not if he does it tastefully.

There is a fine line. Modern day car fads are really weird to me anyway. Money could be much better spent on modifications that are worthwhile performance or handling wise. 

[terrytek]

There is a fine line. Modern day car fads are really weird to me anyway. Money could be much better spent on modifications that are worthwhile performance or handling wise. 

ok don't hate me, but i'm all for looks. i mean 274hp is more than enough for me anyway.

[AlwaysFSX]

Guys.. Germans don't know how to write a page on laws.

[terrytek]

Tell me i'm not the only one who's hyped about the new NFS game? i like it because it actually does look like real life, thanks to the Frostbite engine. And like real real, not like Underground 2 real.

[vetali]

ok don't hate me, but i'm all for looks. i mean 274hp is more than enough for me anyway.

As far as looks go all I currently want is tinted windows, Mazda 3 Grand Touring wheels, and MAYBE fog lights. I kinda like the non fog light clip on the 3s. I might have my door fixed. Its got a small dent from something kicked up by the front tire. My dad keeps saying if I do get it fixed, somebody will just smash it with their escalade door the next day. So idk.

 

For performance, I desperately need new motor mounts, new tires after a while, and anything that can improve gas mileage. I'm ok with the power right now. Maybe better throttle response would be nice cause rev matching is hard in this car. Sometimes it doesn't even feel like it responds at all. Then I have to blip it again and usually ends up over-revving and causing a harsh down shift.