CES: AMD Ryzen Pro Mobile with VEGA M

[NumLock21]

AMD official announcement for their Ryzen Pro mobile processor using their VEGA M graphics. They are quad cores with 8 SMT, turbo boost up to 3.8GHz, with enhanced security features like Transparent Secure Memory Encryption, TPM 2.0/fTPM, AMD Guard MI, and 128bit AES data encryption. On the performance side, it features mobile XFR, Precision Boost 2, Neutral Net Prediction, Smart Prefetch, and Pure Power. AMD Ryzen 7 Pro gets VEGA 10, Ryzen 5 Pro, will have VEGA 8, and Ryzen 3 Pro, comes with VEGA 6.

 

 

http://www.amd.com/en/products/ryzen-pro-processors-laptop

[dizmo]

Interesting. I wonder how they will fare against their Intel counterparts. I've never considered an AMD processor for a laptop because their previous offerings have been pretty trash. Though, these will likely still lose the battery life battle to the U series, yes?

[Nicnac]

I don't get why they have the Vega GH unit which is more powerful on the intel chips exclusively.... like WHY??

[Ansger]

9 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Interesting. I wonder how they will fare against their Intel counterparts. I've never considered an AMD processor for a laptop because their previous offerings have been pretty trash. Though, these will likely still lose the battery life battle to the U series, yes?

It's supposed to kick Intels offerings' butts, but thats coming from AMD so off course they will say that. 

[NumLock21]

16 minutes ago, Nicnac said:

I don't get why they have the Vega GH unit which is more powerful on the intel chips exclusively.... like WHY??

Why would business users need a more powerful VEGA M?

[dizmo]

19 minutes ago, Ansger said:

It's supposed to kick Intels offerings' butts, but thats coming from AMD so off course they will say that. 

I never believe what AMD says performance wise. They've been misleading way too many times.

I don't think they'll beat Intel when it comes to battery life.

[Nicnac]

21 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

Why would business users need a more powerful VEGA M?

I just think if intel can cram all that power in a similar package and sell similar products in a similar market segment why shouldn't amd do the same? especially since it's their gpu that is making the difference... 

[NumLock21]

4 minutes ago, Nicnac said:

I just think if intel can cram all that power in a similar package and sell similar products in a similar market segment why shouldn't amd do the same? especially since it's their gpu that is making the difference... 

Might be the price they're trying to target at. No business is going to spend over $1,000 on a office laptop.

[Ansger]

28 minutes ago, dizmo said:

I never believe what AMD says performance wise. They've been misleading way too many times.

I don't think they'll beat Intel when it comes to battery life.

Intel does have more experience and indeed, you shouldn't trust a product manufacturer about how their products perform. I just hope that they can bring at least some competition. Maybe some real heat like they did on the desktop market. Lets see. 

[dizmo]

6 minutes ago, Ansger said:

Intel does have more experience and indeed, you shouldn't trust a product manufacturer about how their products perform. I just hope that they can bring at least some competition. Maybe some real heat like they did on the desktop market. Lets see. 

AMD. Real heat. Truer words were never spoken.

[Coaxialgamer]

I'd like to see ACTUAL ( 20+ CU ) mobile vega chips.

[Doobeedoo]

Time flies, refreshes really coming soon.

[cj09beira]

20 minutes ago, Coaxialgamer said:

I'd like to see ACTUAL ( 20+ CU ) mobile vega chips.

already announced, but we dont know specs yet 

[Coaxialgamer]

16 minutes ago, Doobeedoo said:

Time flies, refreshes really coming soon.

dat threadripper refresh came fast though

[Trixanity]

18 hours ago, Nicnac said:

I don't get why they have the Vega GH unit which is more powerful on the intel chips exclusively.... like WHY??

Because AMD can't make a design like it. Intel's solution requires EMIB to connect the chips and Intel owns the technology. Keep in mind that it's actually a discrete chip and not integrated as APUs are.

[Nicnac]

30 minutes ago, Trixanity said:

Because AMD can't make a design like it. Intel's solution requires EMIB to connect the chips and Intel owns the technology. Keep in mind that it's actually a discrete chip and not integrated as APUs are.

ah k so its all about the bridge

[captain_to_fire]

18 hours ago, dizmo said:

I've never considered an AMD processor for a laptop because their previous offerings have been pretty trash.

I remember AMD making odd core counts for their laptop CPUs back in the day. My college roommate is once bragging that his triple core Acer laptop (AMD) is better than my dual core i5 (Sandy Bridge) 2011 MacBook Air 13" but his overheats faster than mine even on typical college stuff like browsing the web or watching a HD movie. It could be that my has better thermal cooling than his Acer laptop but I really think that AMD mobile processors are trash when it comes to thermals.

[porina]

19 hours ago, Nicnac said:

I don't get why they have the Vega GH unit which is more powerful on the intel chips exclusively.... like WHY??

Totally different target market. The Intel parts are 100W TDP and would suit a lower to mid range 15"+ gaming laptop and who cares about battery lift. The ones here are 15W so could go in thin and lights that last all day.

[The Benjamins]

18 hours ago, cj09beira said:

already announced, but we dont know specs yet 

Where did you hear that?

[Trixanity]

9 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

Where did you hear that?

AMD showed it off at CES

It's not an APU or a custom solution like Intel's though but discrete mobile graphics.

[The Benjamins]

3 minutes ago, Trixanity said:

AMD showed it off at CES

It's not an APU or a custom solution like Intel's though but discrete mobile graphics.

cool I hope AMD uses that and a zeppelin die to make a monster R7 APU, sense the Full fat APU die is already used in the R5 2400G, imagine a 8c16t + 24CU APU.

[Trixanity]

1 hour ago, The Benjamins said:

cool I hope AMD uses that and a zeppelin die to make a monster R7 APU, sense the Full fat APU die is already used in the R5 2400G, imagine a 8c16t + 24CU APU.

Well, the problem is that they'd either need to make a new massive die or make a custom solution with either an expensive interposer or licensed EMIB. You'd also need dedicated memory to feed it so you'd need a small chunk of HBM too which also requires EMIB/interposer. 

 

It's quite a problematic situation. AMD really needs EMIB or an EMIB-like technology to execute on their strategy and make the products they need.

[The Benjamins]

2 minutes ago, Trixanity said:

Well, the problem is that they'd either need to make a new massive die or make a custom solution with either an expensive interposer or licensed EMIB. You'd also need dedicated memory to feed it so you'd need a small chunk of HBM too which also requires EMIB/interposer. 

 

It's quite a problematic situation. AMD really needs EMIB or an EMIB-like technology to execute on their strategy and make the products they need.

I don't expect another die.

 

Ya i am not sure how good AMD interposer tech is, but basically want them to copy the i7-8809G but use a 1700 die.

[Matu20]

Would an average consumer even care for the Pro features?