A true Green Christmas in Denmark

[Akyhne]

Sunday 24, 2017 was a true green Christmas Evening i Denmark. Not only did we not have any snow, but we had a windy day.

The average production of electricity on the 24th, is expected to end at around 110% in green energy. And about 90% around 5-6PM.

 

"This resulted in a true green Christmas", says the Danish minister of clima, Lars Christian Lilleholt (V).

"- It means a lot. It's a signal that we are having a huge wind power production in Denmark", the minister says to TV2.

 

By the way, it's not uncommon that we have a few days a year, where we produce more than 100% of all our energy, by wind power. Even on very windy days where all factories are running at full speed, the power consumption can be less than what is produced by wind power and solar panels.

 

You can follow the live production of energy in Denmark live at https://en.energinet.dk/ 

 

Source (Danish): http://nyheder.tv2.dk/samfund/2017-12-24-selvom-julelysene-fortsat-braender-har-vi-den-groenneste-jul-nogensinde

 

 

[-TesseracT-]

Yes, it was very windy, and probably the warmest day of december lol.

[Matu20]

2 hours ago, -TesseracT- said:

Yes, it was very windy, and probably the warmest day of december lol.

Not the warmest, but warm. And you can't really expect snow when your average temp in December is positive.

[Trik'Stari]

Neato.

[ZestyJalapeno]

Has the trend of snowless Christmasses been more prevalent in the last 10 years? It snowed in London for about 2 days early December for the first time in ages. If so we're gonna need a lot more of that wind and solar

[Beskamir]

1 hour ago, Dogeystyle said:

Has the trend of snowless Christmasses been more prevalent in the last 10 years? It snowed in London for about 2 days early December for the first time in ages. If so we're gonna need a lot more of that wind and solar

Yep the climate's broken as for using as much renewable energy as possible, I'm of the opinion that we should have invested the time and energy we had been dumping into renewable energy for the past few decades into nuclear power. Nuclear actually had/has the potential to completely replaced fossil fuels while renewable energy still hasn't managed to replace fossil fuels and that's with all the resources we'd been throwing at it.

[MyName13]

3 minutes ago, ElfFriend said:

Yep the climate's broken as for using as much renewable energy as possible, I'm of the opinion that we should have invested the time and energy we had been dumping into renewable energy for the past few decades into nuclear power. Nuclear actually had/has the potential to completely replaced fossil fuels while renewable energy still hasn't managed to replace fossil fuels and that's with all the resources we'd been throwing at it.

What about nuclear waste?

[Sakkura]

1 hour ago, Dogeystyle said:

Has the trend of snowless Christmasses been more prevalent in the last 10 years? It snowed in London for about 2 days early December for the first time in ages. If so we're gonna need a lot more of that wind and solar

Not in Denmark. We had the first registered back to back nationwide white christmases in 2009 and 2010. Those are 2 out of the 9 nationwide white christmases in Denmark since 1900.

[Sakkura]

2 minutes ago, MyName13 said:

What about nuclear waste?

Nuclear power generates less radioactive waste than coal power per kWh.

[RotoCoreOne]

5 minutes ago, MyName13 said:

What about nuclear waste?

 

1 minute ago, Sakkura said:

Nuclear power generates less radioactive waste than coal power per kWh.

If it's viable could we not launch that stuff into space? :D?

[Beskamir]

9 minutes ago, MyName13 said:

What about nuclear waste?

It's significantly easier to manage than the pollution from fossil fuels has been. It's relatively easy to hollow out a mountain in the middle of no where and seal off a solid substance. Now try doing the same with carbon emissions...

 

Also on the topic of waste/radiation, oddly enough living near a fossil fuel plant exposes you to more radiation than living near a nuclear plant. Since both produce some quantities of radiation but nuclear power plants are specifically designed to keep that radiation from leaking into the surroundings.

 

Edit:

3 minutes ago, RotoCoreOne said:

 

If it's viable could we not launch that stuff into space? :D?

Bad idea. How often do rockets fail? If it's anything more than a 0% chance of a rocket failing then you will eventually have nuclear waste everywhere.

[Sakkura]

2 minutes ago, RotoCoreOne said:

 

If it's viable could we not launch that stuff into space? :D?

That's not a good idea. It's way too expensive, and if the rocket blows up you have a big problem. 

[RotoCoreOne]

19 minutes ago, ElfFriend said:

It's significantly easier to manage than the pollution from fossil fuels has been. It's relatively easy to hollow out a mountain in the middle of no where and seal off a solid substance. Now try doing the same with carbon emissions...

 

Also on the topic of waste/radiation, oddly enough living near a fossil fuel plant exposes you to more radiation than living near a nuclear plant. Since both produce some quantities of radiation but nuclear power plants are specifically designed to keep that radiation from leaking into the surroundings.

 

Edit:

Bad idea. How often do rockets fail? If it's anything more than a 0% chance of a rocket failing then you will eventually have nuclear waste everywhere.

 

18 minutes ago, Sakkura said:

That's not a good idea. It's way too expensive, and if the rocket blows up you have a big problem. 

Guess we have to wait for space elevators then...

[Sakkura]

9 hours ago, Akyhne said:

By the way, it's not uncommon that we have a few days a year, where we produce more than 100% of all our energy, by wind power. Even on very windy days where all factories are running at full speed, the power consumption can be less than what is produced by wind power and solar panels.

On that note, the interesting thing here is that it was happening in winter, and in prime time.

 

That means the electricity usage is at its highest.

 

We often set records far above 100% at night during summer, when the least electricity is being used. But that's easier to do than to provide 90% of the peak demand on Christmas Eve.

[GDRRiley]

5 hours ago, Sakkura said:

That's not a good idea. It's way too expensive, and if the rocket blows up you have a big problem. 

there are some that have an almost 0% failure rate. you got to risk it for the biscuit. 

[manikyath]

breaking news: the danish had beans for breakfast

[Akyhne]

On 25/12/2017 at 6:10 PM, Sakkura said:

On that note, the interesting thing here is that it was happening in winter, and in prime time.

 

That means the electricity usage is at its highest.

 

We often set records far above 100% at night during summer, when the least electricity is being used. But that's easier to do than to provide 90% of the peak demand on Christmas Eve.

Yeah, it's actually quite impressive and we are going in the right direction.

[Akyhne]

On 25/12/2017 at 5:36 PM, MyName13 said:

What about nuclear waste?

I never quite understood the problem with nuclear waste. We extract uranium and whatever from mountain rock and we put the waste back into caves in mountains. It it's just put away deep enough, there shouldn't really be such a big problem.

But maybe I just don't understand things about this quite the right way.

[Curufinwe_wins]

On 12/29/2017 at 11:07 AM, Akyhne said:

I never quite understood the problem with nuclear waste. We extract uranium and whatever from mountain rock and we put the waste back into caves in mountains. It it's just put away deep enough, there shouldn't really be such a big problem.

But maybe I just don't understand things about this quite the right way.

To be perfectly honest (as a Nuclear Engineer), waste management isn't a technological problem. It's a political one. Solar panels generate more levelized toxic waste than Nuclear does. And chemical toxic waste is notably more difficult to deal with than Nuclear waste. But yeah.