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Platinum metal is much rarer and more expensive. But why titanium psu is rated higher than platinum?

 

what is higher than titanium?

Do commercial servers use tit psu? How are servers psu rated?

 

What efficiency does most household power adapters have? They are switch on more than PC, and consumer more electricity. Why are there no ratings on them?

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It's all marketing.

Regardless of the physical characteristics of the metals used (bronze, silver, gold, platinum and titanium) this is how it sorta goes.

Bronze is considered as the first somewhat strong and usable metal.

Silver is basically the rich persons bronze.

Gold is the pinnacle of luxury.

Platinum is the technological advanced version of gold.

And finally titanium is thought of as the strongest metal on the planet and therefor what you want if you want the best.

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Because they had gold silver bronze then they had to add something else. I guess when they had to add another step on top of that they wanted something familiar and distinct enough. A bit silly but kind of understandable. 

 

I know that some server PSUs are rated using the same system. 

 

Wall adaptors don't have much of a rating system, but they're also generally a much smaller operating range as well as a much lower wattage generally so the PSU rating system isn't as significant with them

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Just now, CUDA_Cores said:

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It's just the public perception. Titanium isn't the strongest metal. For natural metals at least, Tungsten is.

Can't remember it's name but a magnesium based alloy is what currently has the top spot.

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18 minutes ago, andrewmp6 said:

 

i will post something semi relevant as well 

 

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3 hours ago, kerradeph said:

Because they had gold silver bronze then they had to add something else. I guess when they had to add another step on top of that they wanted something familiar and distinct enough. A bit silly but kind of understandable. 

 

I know that some server PSUs are rated using the same system. 

 

Wall adaptors don't have much of a rating system, but they're also generally a much smaller operating range as well as a much lower wattage generally so the PSU rating system isn't as significant with them

household items consume more electricity on the whole

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9 hours ago, pomkon said:

i will post something semi relevant as well 

 

None of these are relevant to OP's question lmao

 

13 hours ago, pomkon said:

Platinum metal is much rarer and more expensive. But why titanium psu is rated higher than platinum?

 

what is higher than titanium?

Do commercial servers use tit psu? How are servers psu rated?

 

What efficiency does most household power adapters have? They are switch on more than PC, and consumer more electricity. Why are there no ratings on them?

Titanium is a very strong metal and thus probably why it's the highest unit rating Ecova uses. 

 

You could always email their support though and ask for the memes.

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14 hours ago, pomkon said:

Platinum metal is much rarer and more expensive. But why titanium psu is rated higher than platinum?

 

what is higher than titanium?

Do commercial servers use tit psu? How are servers psu rated?

"Ti" is short for Titanium.  Not "tit".

 

And you could always go to "80plus.org" and read and find answers to your questions, including all of the PSUs rated at the different levels, how they measure and that some of the PSUs are in fact server PSUs.

 

14 hours ago, pomkon said:

What efficiency does most household power adapters have? They are switch on more than PC, and consumer more electricity. Why are there no ratings on them?

Power bricks are such low wattage (typically under 90W, though gaming laptops use 120~240W) that they only follow Energy Star requirements.  

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The video did explain why Platinum is before Titanium, it so happens that originally 80 Plus Platinum was already the highest it could go however as the efficiency kept getting even better they were forced to come up with something new.

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I read all this talk about the certificates, but what is the physical difference between gold, platinum & titanium PSU?

 

Why is a gold PSU gold, why is a platinum PSU platinum?

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2 hours ago, archerbob said:

Why is a gold PSU gold, why is a platinum PSU platinum?

If a power supply is at least 87% efficient at 20% load, 90% efficient at half load, and 87% efficient at full load, it's 80+ Gold.

If it's 90-92-89% at those loads, it's 80+ Platinum.

 

Requirements for each efficiency level are here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80_Plus

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It's just a marketing name for a certain level of power efficiency.

3 hours ago, archerbob said:

I read all this talk about the certificates, but what is the physical difference between gold, platinum & titanium PSU?

 

Why is a gold PSU gold, why is a platinum PSU platinum?

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On 19.11.2017 at 9:01 AM, pomkon said:

Platinum metal is much rarer and more expensive. But why titanium psu is rated higher than platinum?

Because they started with Bronze, went to silver and gone for gold.

And then they introduced Platinum after a while and ran out of precious metal that the "Otto-Normalo" knows that are valuable. 

So they went for Titanium

 

On 19.11.2017 at 9:01 AM, pomkon said:

what is higher than titanium?

Nothing, because it is pretty much impossible to go higher than Titanium with normal tri voltage ATX (3,3V, 5V and +12V).

With a Single Voltage unit it might be possible but we are already talking about really low losses.

 

Remember a couple of years ago we were talking about 60-72% efficient PSU. Now we don't even look at the 82/85/82% ones much let alone just 80% efficient ones...

On 19.11.2017 at 9:01 AM, pomkon said:

Do commercial servers use ti psu? How are servers psu rated?

Yes and its easier for those to archieve that because many Server PSU are single voltage. Some even have a 12V Standby Rail

server PSU are rated as "230VAC Redundant" or Industrial.

On 19.11.2017 at 9:01 AM, pomkon said:

What efficiency does most household power adapters have? They are switch on more than PC, and consumer more electricity. Why are there no ratings on them?

Because they are low wattage and they aren't as heavily regulated as higher wattage PSU.

For example, those small ones don't even need PFC, a 90W Laptop brick does. A 65W though does not.

 

As for efficiency: No idea, maybe 70% or so?

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On 11/19/2017 at 12:01 AM, pomkon said:

What efficiency does most household power adapters have? They are switch on more than PC, and consumer more electricity. Why are there no ratings on them?

Assuming the company that made the external adapter were good people and got it through industry standard testing, then it depends on the amount of power it's outputting and what efficiency level it was certified for. You can read more about it at https://www.cui.com/catalog/resource/efficiency-standards-for-external-power-supplies.pdf. In any case, the marking you're looking for is a circle with a roman numeral in it.

 

The thing is 80PLUS applies only to computer power supplies not including laptop chargers, as they would be an external power supply.

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I would like an Uranium PSU that has over 100% efficiency.

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On 11/19/2017 at 3:24 AM, APasz said:

It's just the public perception. Titanium isn't the strongest metal. For natural metals at least, Tungsten is.

Can't remember it's name but a magnesium based alloy is what currently has the top spot.

Depends on what you mean by "strongest" too.

 

Single crystal superalloys are pretty strong. 

 

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2 hours ago, Tam3n said:

I would like an Uranium PSU that has over 100% efficiency.

 

What should we call the real bad ones, uranus? :D

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