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Should I stick for an i5 7400 or a Ryzen 5 1400?

Hello everybody, so I'm upgrading my rig, I am the current owner of a FX-6300 with 8gb of 1600Mhz DDR3 Ram and a GTX 750 Ti. This system has served me well, but, the time to change has come and my GTX 1060 6Gb it's already inbound, this leaves me with incredibly hard CPU choice, I was looking for an i5 4570 as I found a used one for a great price, but… it got sold before I could even decide, so scrapping a little more I found an i5 7400 at a more or less great price too, $325, including a MOBO and one 4Gb DDR4 memory stick,the memory stick it's not anywhere close to what I intend, it's even from a generic brand, however, I will still need one to boot until I sell my current ones, so, even without it, it would still be way bellow market price, thus being surprisingly convenient, but, I'm still hesitant, should I spend a little more for a R5 1400? Is it worth it? I've been having people recommending me it, but, I've been also seeing it being outperformed in many gaming benchmarks, settling for a R5 setup would cost me around $333.

 

The ($333) R5 setup:

- Asrock A320m

- R5 1500

- 4Gb 2133Mhz DDR4 HyperX Fury

 

The ($325) i5 setup:

-  Asus H110M-A M.2

- i5 7400 skt1151

-  4GB DDR4 2400mhz ADATA

 

The prices are very close, so what's the best choice after all? I should remark that my main use is gaming(1080p), even with ocasional image/video editing and VFX.

Any other tips/hints will also be appreciated.

 

Obs: All prices are simply converted from my nacional currency(BRL).

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Defiantly R5 now, though the coffeelake i3 could be it worth if you can wait a little.

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Wait for coffee lake. At the very least there should be some price drops.

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40 minutes ago, Iorpim said:

 

You're going to want B350 if you're going AM4, may be worth waiting until you can buy an 8GB kit

Likely not worth waiting for Coffee Lake, reports are that it will only launch with Z370 boards, and the i3s there are 4c/4t, clearly not as good for the money as 4c/8t Ryzen chips.

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I'm honestly a little hyped for coffee lake, however, it may unfortunately take up to 3 months to get here, and when it does it will likely be considerably overpriced as it is common practice for one to three more months. This is definitely a frustrating place to live… But I may as well wait a few days just to see the market impact, it is supposed to drop this week right? And it's really unarguable that it has an amazing name… Who wouldn't want a coffee lake at home?

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31 minutes ago, sazrocks said:

Wait for coffee lake. At the very least there should be some price drops.

SKylake didn't really drop when KBL released, so I doubt KBL would drop for coffee lake

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Just now, BubblyCharizard said:

SKylake didn't really drop when KBL released, so I doubt KBL would drop for coffee lake

I was more referring to ryzen dropping for coffee lake.

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3 minutes ago, Iorpim said:

 

Oct 5th, I don't know what the excitment is about, it may have slight single threaded performance gains, but it's pricing structure still doesn't offer the value Ryzen does, and the motherboards end up getting replaced so often lately with intel, while AM4 is supposed to be supported until 2020.

At the same price you get more cores/threads with Ryzen, so why give that up for a bit more per core performance when Ryzen is already solid for gaming? Still can't overclock on budget intel boards either like you can with AMD, and I don't know if their K parts will have stock coolers, that's another added cost.

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2 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

You're going to want B350 if you're going AM4, may be worth waiting until you can buy an 8GB kit

Likely not worth waiting for Coffee Lake, reports are that it will only launch with Z370 boards, and the i3s there are 4c/4t, clearly not as good for the money as 4c/8t Ryzen chips.

I intend to get even more, the 4Gb would be just a temporary solution so I could boot until I, hopefully, sell the rest of my hardware.

 

Apparently the R5 has been the consensus once again, I'm likely to stay with it, my only fear is: The apparent 10~20 less frames aren't that an issue? Or is it just poorly made benchmarking, what, let's be honest, it's all around the internet these days…

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Just now, sazrocks said:

I was more referring to ryzen dropping for coffee lake.

I doubt they would, AMD already undercut intel since they couldn't offer the same IPC as KBL or Skylake, and the traction in multithreaded applications they are gaining means no real difference in their sales

 

 

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Just now, Iorpim said:

 

Depends entirely on the game/situation.


What's your monitor? If it's 60hz it doesn't matter.

Ryzen is like 100 fps vs 120 fps on intel in some games.
 

 

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

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Just now, BubblyCharizard said:

I doubt they would, AMD already undercut intel since they couldn't offer the same IPC as KBL or Skylake, and the traction in multithreaded applications they are gaining means no real difference in their sales

At most AMD pumps out Ryzen Revision 2 faster for hopefully 4.5ghz max clocks

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1 minute ago, Iorpim said:

Apparently the R5 has been the consensus once again, I'm likely to stay with it, my only fear is: The apparent 10~20 less frames aren't that an issue? Or is it just poorly made benchmarking, what, let's be honest, it's all around the internet these days…

4c/8t Ryzen, can't compete with 4c/4t i5 for gaming only, with higher clock speeds and IPC from intel

 

i3 8100 looks promising, but I'd probably go i5 8600 if I was upgrading now

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1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

Depends entirely on the game/situation.


What's your monitor? If it's 60hz it doesn't matter.

Ryzen is like 100 fps vs 120 fps on intel in some games.

 

Currently a 60Hz AOC e2243Fwk, but a high frequency monitor is in my possible future upgrade list, my main concern with fps is not really just having a huge fps for nothing but bragging, but, I intend to keep this setup for a few years once again (life as a college student isn't that easy for hardware enthusiasts…), so, I would really like it to last for a while. 

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27 minutes ago, Iorpim said:

Currently a 60Hz AOC e2243Fwk, but a high frequency monitor is in my possible future upgrade list, my main concern with fps is not really just having a huge fps for nothing but bragging, but, I intend to keep this setup for a few years once again (life as a college student isn't that easy for hardware enthusiasts…), so, I would really like it to last for a while. 

Ryzen is perfectly fine for gaming, just won't max 144hz 100% of the time, but then you get more cores/threads than what intel is offering at the same price, and a platform that should be supported until 2020, so it's an easy choice from my perspective.
 

 

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

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What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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