Dual Memory Use As Quad ?

[Shadowman]

If you have say a dual memory kit like a DDR4 rated speed say 3600MHz will getting another exactly the same kit will I  be able to run it in quad ?

What am really after myself is the  G.Skill Trident Z RGB memory rams but no speeds of 4000MHz in 32GB kit but can get it in 16GB (2x 8GB) at 4000MHz  but this is a dual kit so was thinking of getting 2x 16GB (2x 8GB) at 4000MHz would be 4x 8GB

[Glenwing]

1 minute ago, Shadowman said:

If you have say a dual memory kit like a DDR4 rated speed say 3600MHz will getting another exactly the same kit will I  be able to run it in quad ?

What am really after myself is the  G.Skill Trident Z RGB memory rams but no speeds of 4000MHz in 32GB kit but can get it in 16GB at 4000MHz  but this is a dual kit so was thinking of getting 2x 16GB at 4000MHz 

Dual kit just means it's a pack of two sticks, quad means it's pack of four sticks. There's no "dual channel ram" or "quad channel ram", they're all the same thing. If you buy two packs of two it's the same as buying a pack of four.

[ARikozuM]

If your motherboard supports quad-channel, yes. The only difference between 2-stick and 4-stick kits is validation, [supposedly]. 

[Shadowman]

1 minute ago, Glenwing said:

Dual kit just means it's a pack of two sticks, quad means it's pack of four sticks. There's no "dual channel ram" or "quad channel ram", they're all the same thing. If you buy two packs of two it's the same as buying a pack of four.

 

(Know I really look stupid ) I was thinking it was dual channel and quad channel.

[pyrojoe34]

Yea, that will work just fine... Assuming that you have a chipset that supports Quad-channel... consumer CPUs do not support quad channel, only enthusiast and enterprise grade do at the moment (e.g. Intel x99 and x299 and AMD x399).

[PCGuy_5960]

2 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

The only difference between 2-stick and 4-stick kits is validation, [supposedly]. 

AFAIK, quad channel kits use dies from the same batch, so all the sticks overclock similarly. Other than that, there's no difference between the 2 kits 

[Shadowman]

The highest speed 32GB kit that has 4 sticks (4x 8GB) I could find was rated at 3866 MHz why not do a  4266 Mhz 32GB (4x 8GB) Kit ?

[ARikozuM]

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

AFAIK, quad channel kits use dies from the same batch, so all the sticks overclock similarly. Other than that, there's no difference between the 2 kits 

Some forum users state validation is the difference, but I've never heard of a manufacturer backing that claim. 

[ARikozuM]

Just now, Shadowman said:

The highest speed 32GB kit that has 4 sticks (4x 8GB) I could find was rated at 3866 MHz why not do a  4266 Mhz 32GB (4x 8GB) Kit ?

What's your overall build? Diminishing returns hit after the 3200MHz mark for Intel and Ryzen. 

[Jurrunio]

Just now, Shadowman said:

The highest speed 32GB kit that has 4 sticks (4x 8GB) I could find was rated at 3866 MHz why not do a  4266 Mhz 32GB (4x 8GB) Kit ?

Because the price will be outrageously high? You can buy 2 2x8GB 4266 kits though

[Shadowman]

1 minute ago, ARikozuM said:

What's your overall build? Diminishing returns hit after the 3200MHz mark for Intel and Ryzen. 

 

Asus Rampage VI Apex x299

i9 7900x (Delidded & Pre-Binned  )

Samsung 960 Pro 1TB M.2 SSD

[ARikozuM]

1 minute ago, Shadowman said:

Asus Rampage VI Apex x299

i9 7900x (Delidded & Pre-Binned  )

Samsung 960 Pro 1TB M.2 SSD

I guess you're going all-out, then... Carry on.

[Shadowman]

1 minute ago, ARikozuM said:

I guess you're going all-out, then... Carry on.

 

Yea that's all my savings I been doing for the past 5 years  have had no PC desktop for 7 years now. 

[Godlygamer23]

23 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

Some forum users state validation is the difference, but I've never heard of a manufacturer backing that claim. 

I'm curious if the memory sticks do anything different in their operation. If the memory sticks are not paired in a pack for specifically "dual channel" and "quad channel," are the memory sticks actually aware of the other sticks of memory? 

[ARikozuM]

Just now, Godlygamer23 said:

I'm curious if the memory sticks do anything different in their operation. If the memory sticks are not paired in a pack for specifically "dual channel" and "quad channel," are the memory sticks actually aware of the other sticks of memory? 

I don't see why they would act differently, but maybe they form cliques? #Conspiracy

[Godlygamer23]

4 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

I don't see why they would act differently, but maybe they form cliques? #Conspiracy

I think that a true test of the validation is testing a whole bunch of DIMMs sold as separate sticks, and seeing if one is singled out among them, and if it works on its own. But it might require a lot of DIMMs in order to have a sample size large enough to make any conclusions.

[ARikozuM]

5 minutes ago, Godlygamer23 said:

I think that a true test of the validation is testing a whole bunch of DIMMs sold as separate sticks, and seeing if one is singled out among them, and if it works on its own. But it might require a lot of DIMMs in order to have a sample size large enough to make any conclusions.

That's what I think. I don't see G.Skill or similar testing every two or four sticks and spending minutes validating sets of RAM on the individual level.

[NumLock21]

Dual or quad channel kits are basically ram test by the manufature where they match with each other. Now grabbing the a single stick of ram and increase its quantity by 2 or 4, will still be the same as that dual or quad channel kit. The ram i got don't come with 4 sticks, it only comes in 2 sticks, so i had to buy 2 sets. They still run at quad channel, when i installed it in my system. 

I have 16gb, that's2 sets of (2x4gb)g.skill trident z, running in quad channel mode.