I upgraded from the Geforce GT 730 2GB to the Geforce GTX 1060 without great result

[mariokluser]

Hello,

 

I'm totally new hear and I hope to find some advice in finding the bottleneck. I don't play games on my PC. I use it for video editing and compositing in Hitfilm Pro 2017.

Just this week I upgraded from my Geforce GT 730 2GB to the EVGA Geforce 1060 SC 6GB and hoped for some magic to happen. But the result is that everything seems to be slower now, especially when I work with composites.

 

My CPU is a AMD FX4300 and I have 16 GB of RAM installed.

On my Mobo, the Gigabyte 78LMT I can go up to 32 GB of RAM and I'm considering throwing a set of Kingston Hyper Fury 8GB DDR3-1600 into the mix.

 

Do you guys have any suggestions on this?

Every help is very much appreciated.

[Glennieboyyy007]

i dont know much about video editing, but it could be cpu heavy, because that cpu is pretty bad.

also, did you use DDU before installing the new drivers?

[PlayStation 2]

You're probably tapping out the CPU. 

[Blebekblebek]

I don't get it, you said it your self

You don't play games, and yet the thing you've upgrade is the one most important for it.

 

Sell everything and go buy Ryzen 3/5/7, and stick your old GT730 back in. You will get better results almost immediately.

 

[mariokluser]

@Glennieboyyy007 I assume that DDU is an utility to wipe of all drivers, right. I didn't use any tool, but decided to do a clean install with the NVIDIA driver as I was upgrading from NVIDIA to NVIDIA. Would surly have done otherwise if it would have been a switch from AMD to NVIDIA.

 

It probably sounds stupid but I'm quite reluctant and careful with everything as all my business data and applications run on that machine. Yes, I have dubble backups of everything, but still :-)

[mariokluser]

3 minutes ago, Blebekblebek said:

I don't get it, you said it your self

You don't play games, and yet the thing you've upgrade is the one most important for it.

 

Sell everything and go buy Ryzen 3/5/7, and stick your old GT730 back in. You will get better results almost immediately.

 

It's because my video editing software is optimized for gaming gpu's.

 

[Handa]

Change the cpu. That cpu is bad, kinda. If u can't upgrade to a new cpu, then get an used old gen intel i5 or i7 at least.  

[NvidiaIntelAMDLoveTriangle]

11 minutes ago, mariokluser said:

My CPU is a AMD FX4300

That's why.

[mariokluser]

7 minutes ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

You're probably tapping out the CPU. 

I'm afraid I do.

Besides upgrading the RAM I also considering a new CPU. In my case it would have to be the AMD FX 6300 or one of the AMD FX 8XXX ones.

[Jurrunio]

Just now, mariokluser said:

It's because my video editing software is optimized for gaming gpu's.

 

That doesnt mean it will work well with a slow CPU like the FX 4300 well. The slowest Ryzen is 40-60% faster than your FX 4300 at stock speeds.

[ErykYT3]

What?? Why did you get a new GPU? I mean, you can always upgrade but editing is way more CPU intensive than the GPU. And if this is your processor: https://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-FX4300-4-0GHz-Socket-Retail/dp/B009O7YU3S then you really should get a new one...

[PlayStation 2]

2 minutes ago, mariokluser said:

I'm afraid I do.

Besides upgrading the RAM I also considering a new CPU. In my case it would have to be the AMD FX 6300 or one of the AMD FX 8XXX ones.

If you can't afford to go Ryzen, then try scouting out an FX-8320E and overclock that.

[Jurrunio]

4 minutes ago, mariokluser said:

I'm afraid I do.

Besides upgrading the RAM I also considering a new CPU. In my case it would have to be the AMD FX 6300 or one of the AMD FX 8XXX ones.

A Ryzen 3 upgrade will only cost $300 and it is just as fast as the second slowest FX 8 core: the FX 8120 even in multi-core tests (Obliterates any FX in single core tests). Of course upgrade to an FX 8300 is much cheaper than $300, but the price difference will be paid in the form of electricity.

[mariokluser]

3 minutes ago, ErykYT3 said:

What?? Why did you get a new GPU? I mean, you can always upgrade but editing is way more CPU intensive than the GPU. And if this is your processor: https://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-FX4300-4-0GHz-Socket-Retail/dp/B009O7YU3S then you really should get a new one...

I upgraded the GPU because the composite part of Hitfilm Pro 2017 renders on the GPU.

 

[mariokluser]

@Jurrunio

I wouldn't shy away from the fastest Ryzen, mainly because it I can deduct it from my taxes. But in that case I also have to switch to a new Mobo. I didn't plan to build a complete new computer. This is a bit of my dilemma.

[dizmo]

8 minutes ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

If you can't afford to go Ryzen, then try scouting out an FX-8320E and overclock that.

I don't think that motherboard is really suited for overclocking..

13 minutes ago, mariokluser said:

It's because my video editing software is optimized for gaming gpu's.

 

Doesn't mean you can ignore the other parts of the system

5 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

A Ryzen 3 upgrade will only cost $300 and it is just as fast as the second slowest FX 8 core: the FX 8120 even in multi-core tests (Obliterates any FX in single core tests). Of course upgrade to an FX 8300 is much cheaper than $300, but the price difference will be paid in the form of electricity.

I highly, highly doubt the electricity bill would recoup the cost unless he lives somewhere where his power bill is astronomical

[mariokluser]

@Jurrunio 
Also, if I would wanted to build a new computer I most likely would go for Intel next time.

[KenjiUmino]

yo guys, i think you are missing the point here.

 

yes, the CPU is bad

yes, putting a 1060 in this system did not make sense

 

but the real weird thing is this: 

31 minutes ago, mariokluser said:

But the result is that everything seems to be slower now, especially when I work with composites.

how can it be SLOWER now with a 1060 than it was with a 730?

 

if it was a CPU bottleneck then performance should not have changed ... but how can it get WORSE?

[mariokluser]

@KenjiUmino
I'm not for 100% sure if it got worse. I would have to put the GT 730 back in.

Sometimes ones mind can play games if the expectations are not met. It is at least as slow as it was. This is for sure.

[KenjiUmino]

1 minute ago, mariokluser said:

@KenjiUmino
I'm not for 100% sure if it got worse. I would have to put the GT 730 back in.

Sometimes ones mind can play games if the expectations are not met. It is at least as slow as it was. This is for sure.

well that sounds more like a CPU bottleneck then

[mariokluser]

@KenjiUmino
So starting by putting more RAM into it doesn't make sense? It's actually more expensive than the CPU though.

[mrthuvi]

1 hour ago, mariokluser said:

@KenjiUmino
So starting by putting more RAM into it doesn't make sense? It's actually more expensive than the CPU though.

Use task manager to see which is being used to 100% and upgrade that. Easiest way to find where the bottleneck is.

[Princess Luna]

1 hour ago, mariokluser said:

@KenjiUmino
So starting by putting more RAM into it doesn't make sense? It's actually more expensive than the CPU though.

If you're not using all of your RAM yet then it would make no sense... DDU in safe mode and reinstall the drivers fresh new this is a must whenever you replace GPUs and yes your CPU is very weak for today standards and will bottleneck the graphics card regardless even if you're only using it for CUDA Acceleration.

 

If you want to go Intel I advise a Core i7 7700 on a B250 chipset motherboard.

[Jurrunio]

6 hours ago, mariokluser said:

@Jurrunio 
Also, if I would wanted to build a new computer I most likely would go for Intel next time.

Then wait till Coffee Lake's release. even if it's too expensive for you. After its release, supply on 6th gen and 7th gen chips in the used market will be plenty and prices will be good.

[HiMyNameIsDave]

7 hours ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

You're probably tapping out the CPU. 

Yeah/ I would agree. I was watching a video on which cards the new Ryzen 3 will not bottleneck. The Ryzen 3 did the best with the GTX 1060 and started to bottleneck every GPU faster than GTX 1060.