Finalising Upgrade and Build Advice

[okkee]

Budget (including currency): ~450 USD (6000 BWP)

Country: Botswana

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: FC24, COD2024, AC, Far Cry, Fallout etc (really just gaming)

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

Current Build:

- CPU:  i7-4790

- GPU: XFX RX 5600XT

- STORAGE: 240gb Patriot Burst Sata SSD; 500gb Seagate HDD

- MEMORY: 4 × 4gb DDR3

- MOBO: Biostar B85Z5 Hi-fi

Planned Upgrade:

- CPU: 5600X ($140)

- MEMORY: 2 × 8gb DDR4 ($75)

- MOBO: MSI B550-A Pro ($109)

- SHIPPING/IMPORT Estimate - ($109)

Barring any unforeseen circumstances, I should be making the purchases sometime in august. The plan is to just swap out the cpu, ram and board and use my existing psu and storage for the time being. Just wanna make sure everything here is alright and makes sense or any other parts i haven't thought about. The reason i've gone with the 5600X was because it's actually cheaper than the non-X on Amazon and it seems the difference holds even without discounts. The memory is just gonna be a basic no-name (probably samsung) sticks i'm getting locally and the board is also off amazon. personally prefer full size boards and it isn't that much more costly over the m-atx offerings. 

Alternative plan of action is to get some used/refurbished parts off aliexpress. So that would be:

- CPU: 3700X ($93)

- MEMORY: 2 × 8gb DDR4 ($23)

- MOBO: Asrock B550 Pro4 ($87)

-SHIPPING/IMPORT Estimate - ($45)

As you can tell, there is a bit of a price difference. The reason i'm not too confident in this however is i believe i'm being lowballed on the customs/shipping and the stuff takes about 60 days. Also, it's aliexpress and the parts are used. I don't really know anyone in my area who's used aliexpress before so i'm really just cautious about using it. In any case that's the alternative.

So, is this build alright? Areas for improvement? and are there things i may have not properly considered?

[leclod]

I wonder why you'd upgrade the cpu and not the gpu. I don't see the point.

I think you'll see no difference except you'll be able to install W11.

I might be wrong but I think you'd be better off buying only a gpu if you can't do both (3060, 6700 or 7600...).

 

Edited May 19 by leclod

[okkee]

6 minutes ago, leclod said:

I wonder why you'd upgrade the cpu and not the gpu. I don't see the point.

I think you'll see no difference except you'll be able to install W11.

I might be wrong but I think you'd be better off buying only a gpu (3060 or 7600...).

 

Do you think I should put this off and then get a 1tb ssd and a 3060 12gb?

[leclod]

3 minutes ago, okkee said:

Do you think I should put this off and then get a 1tb ssd and a 3060 12gb?

I think so indeed, but let's see what others write.

Also AMD is seen as the better value today.

[Mahes]

34 minutes ago, okkee said:

Budget (including currency): ~450 USD (6000 BWP)

Country: Botswana

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: FC24, COD2024, AC, Far Cry, Fallout etc (really just gaming)

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

Current Build:

- CPU:  i7-4790

- GPU: XFX RX 5600XT

- STORAGE: 240gb Patriot Burst Sata SSD; 500gb Seagate HDD

- MEMORY: 4 × 4gb DDR3

- MOBO: Biostar B85Z5 Hi-fi

Planned Upgrade:

- CPU: 5600X ($140)

- MEMORY: 2 × 8gb DDR4 ($75)

- MOBO: MSI B550-A Pro ($109)

- SHIPPING/IMPORT Estimate - ($109)

Barring any unforeseen circumstances, I should be making the purchases sometime in august. The plan is to just swap out the cpu, ram and board and use my existing psu and storage for the time being. Just wanna make sure everything here is alright and makes sense or any other parts i haven't thought about. The reason i've gone with the 5600X was because it's actually cheaper than the non-X on Amazon and it seems the difference holds even without discounts. The memory is just gonna be a basic no-name (probably samsung) sticks i'm getting locally and the board is also off amazon. personally prefer full size boards and it isn't that much more costly over the m-atx offerings. 

Alternative plan of action is to get some used/refurbished parts off aliexpress. So that would be:

- CPU: 3700X ($93)

- MEMORY: 2 × 8gb DDR4 ($23)

- MOBO: Asrock B550 Pro4 ($87)

-SHIPPING/IMPORT Estimate - ($45)

As you can tell, there is a bit of a price difference. The reason i'm not too confident in this however is i believe i'm being lowballed on the customs/shipping and the stuff takes about 60 days. Also, it's aliexpress and the parts are used. I don't really know anyone in my area who's used aliexpress before so i'm really just cautious about using it. In any case that's the alternative.

So, is this build alright? Areas for improvement? and are there things i may have not properly considered?

I think it's good , but you fine with no storage upgrade 

 

24 minutes ago, leclod said:

I wonder why you'd upgrade the cpu and not the gpu. I don't see the point.

I think you'll see no difference except you'll be able to install W11.

I might be wrong but I think you'd be better off buying only a gpu if you can't do both (3060, 6700 or 7600...).

 

Doesn't that cause bottleneck,

I mean i7 4790 and 3060 will be a considerable bottleneck 

[leclod]

9 minutes ago, Mahes said:

Doesn't that cause bottleneck,

I mean i7 4790 and 3060 will be a considerable bottleneck 

I bet on slight to medium bottleneck depending on games and resolution. 3060 is average not high level.

I bet upgrading gpu (and storage) will be better than upgrading cpu.

My opinion.

Edited May 19 by leclod

[okkee]

12 minutes ago, Mahes said:

Doesn't that cause bottleneck,

I mean i7 4790 and 3060 will be a considerable bottleneck 

i still don't understand the term 'bottleneck' but i guess you're saying i won't see that much of a performance increase over my current setup?

[Mahes]

19 minutes ago, leclod said:

I bet on slight to medium bottleneck depending on games and resolution. 3060 is average not high level.

I bet upgrading gpu (and storage) will be better than upgrading cpu.

My opinion.

i7 4790 and 3060 will let alone 25% bottleneck 

And it has 8 gb ddr3 

Also 3060 and RX 5600XT has overall 11% performance difference 

 

With new upgrade he will have 16gb ram ,  Better mobo and huge cpu upgrade ( this is my view)

23 minutes ago, okkee said:

i still don't understand the term 'bottleneck' but i guess you're saying i won't see that much of a performance increase over my current setup?

Yeah kinda , rtx 3060 full potential can't be used

 

[leclod]

6 minutes ago, Mahes said:

And it has 8 gb ddr3

4 × 4=16

7 minutes ago, Mahes said:

i7 4790 and 3060 will let alone 25% bottleneck 

Also 3060 and RX 5600XT has overall 11% performance difference

Those numbers don't mean much,

[Mahes]

11 minutes ago, leclod said:

4 × 4=16

Those numbers don't mean much,

About ram size  ,my bad

 

But still ,  i don't see a solid reason for going to 3060  which give low  difference in performance, it a 4th gen cpu and old mobo

 

Well that's what I will do ..

[leclod]

2 hours ago, Mahes said:

But still ,  i don't see a solid reason for going to 3060  which give low  difference in performance, it a 4th gen cpu and old mobo

You're looking at it wrong,

Upgrading cpu and mobo won't improve gaming performance for sure.

Upgrading gpu will improve gaming performance. How much, I don't know, but it will.

I'd upgrade both or nothing, but if upgrading only one then I'd upgrade gpu (and storage (he probably has games on HDD)).

Edited May 19 by leclod