New PC Build. Is it an overkill?

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, Zed_ said:

so, it's  ok to go for this build? I will go for it if it's ok.

unless you want to buy into some bull that says you need a massive wattage PSU, a 99% efficiency rating, and want to be scared into thinking your PC will explode (it won't) 

 

Then yeah, that system is pretty solid af. 

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Here you go: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/DrMacintosh/saved/FpKvK8

 

It even has water cooling! 

bad psu and ssd

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, deXxterlab97 said:

bad psu and ssd

evidence and reason required. 

[Zed_]

Just now, JDE said:

I wouldn't. If you asked @STRMfrmXMN our resident PSU expert he will recommend you towards something like a M12II or EVGA B3 or Corsair CXM grey at the least.

For a PSU? what is wrong with this one though?

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, Zed_ said:

For a PSU? what is wrong with this one though?

apparently all PSUs that aren't vetted by the "elite members" of this forum will burst into flames and kill your dog. 

 

(they won't) 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

evidence and reason required. 

 

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/7726/sandisk-ssd-plus-z410-sata-iii-review/index10.html

 

[LienusLateTips]

6 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

unless you want to buy into some bull that says you need a massive wattage PSU, a 99% efficiency rating, and want to be scared into thinking your PC will explode (it won't) 

 

Then yeah, that system is pretty solid af. 

I want to recommend another 80+ Bronze. 450W or 550W. What's wrong.

5 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

evidence and reason required. 

SSD Plus is the worse, go look at benchs.

 

Go to PSU Tier List, Jonnyguru for PSU reasons. Bad platform.

 

 

 

5 minutes ago, Zed_ said:

For a PSU? what is wrong with this one though?

It has bad quality. Another 80+ Bronze ~$50 should do. But with your budget I can fit R7 1700, GTX 1080 and high end PSU so might as well:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($299.39 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($94.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($124.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($87.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.44 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Edition Video Card  ($499.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Deepcool - TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1275.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-17 21:26 EDT-0400

 

EDIT: Wrong budget.

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

apparently all PSUs that aren't vetted by the "elite members" of this forum will burst into flames and kill your dog. 

 

(they won't) 

We just don't recommend it, we don't say that.

 

I have a Supernova NEX 750B1, it's Tier 5 and I do not recommend. CXM is much better value. Same price.

[Herman Mcpootis]

6 minutes ago, Zed_ said:

so, it's  ok to go for this build? I will go for it if it's ok.

try this instead:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($195.69 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($81.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($107.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($87.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($42.49 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual Series Video Card  ($399.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($55.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1001.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-17 21:29 EDT-0400

[DrMacintosh]

2 minutes ago, JDE said:

SSD Plus is the worse, go look at benchs.

I stand by my choice of SSD for this build. 

 

Any SSD is significantly better than a HDD and most users would be hard pressed to notice a bit of difference unless they transfer tens GB of files locally. 

 

If you can find a better SSD for the same price at the same capacity I'll edit the build. 

 

Oh and I changed the PSU to satisfy the PSU elitists. 

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, herman mcpootis said:

try this instead:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($195.69 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($81.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($107.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($87.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($42.49 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual Series Video Card  ($399.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($55.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1001.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-17 21:29 EDT-0400

UPVOTE!

go for this build, so much better than @DrMacintosh's build.

[Zed_]

3 minutes ago, JDE said:

I want to recommend another 80+ Bronze. 450W or 550W. What's wrong.

SSD Plus is the worse, go look at benchs.

 

Go to PSU Tier List, Jonnyguru for PSU reasons. Bad platform.

 

 

 

It has bad quality. Another 80+ Bronze ~$50 should do. But with your budget I can fit R7 1700, GTX 1080 and high end PSU so might as well:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($299.39 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($94.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($124.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($87.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.44 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Edition Video Card  ($499.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Deepcool - TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1275.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-17 21:26 EDT-0400

May be go for Ryzen 5? if I can save a bit then I will, I need a monitor too so

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($195.69 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($81.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($107.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($87.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($42.49 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual Series Video Card  ($399.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($55.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1001.99

 

it was suggested by @herman mcpootis

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, JDE said:

so much better than @DrMacintosh's build.

no not really. 

 

Slower RAM, the SSD might be marginally faster but having 3200 RAM vs 2800 RAM would be more noticable. 

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

I stand by my choice of SSD for this build. 

 

Any SSD is significantly better than a HDD and most users would be hard pressed to notice a bit of difference unless they transfer tens GB of files locally. 

 

If you can find a better SSD for the same price at the same capacity I'll edit the build. 

 

Oh and I changed the PSU to satisfy the PSU elitists. 

If you spend more you can get this, a lot better:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MZJkcf/sk-hynix-sl308-250gb-25-solid-state-drive-hfs250g32tnd-n1a2a

same price:

NOTHING! With 2 dollars more you get a lot more though. Something like the SSDNow UV400.

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, Zed_ said:

May be go for Ryzen 5? if I can save a bit then I will, I need a monitor too so

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($195.69 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($81.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($107.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($87.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($42.49 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual Series Video Card  ($399.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($55.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1001.99

 

it was suggested by @herman mcpootis

Yep go with that, check the edited version. I put the wrong list.

[Zed_]

3 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

I stand by my choice of SSD for this build. 

 

Any SSD is significantly better than a HDD and most users would be hard pressed to notice a bit of difference unless they transfer tens GB of files locally. 

 

If you can find a better SSD for the same price at the same capacity I'll edit the build. 

 

Oh and I changed the PSU to satisfy the PSU elitists. 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($195.69 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($81.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($107.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($87.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($42.49 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual Series Video Card  ($399.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($55.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1001.9

 

this? maybe bump up the PSU up a notch?

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

no not really. 

 

Slower RAM, the SSD might be marginally faster but having 3200 RAM vs 2800 RAM would be more noticable. 

2800 isn't that different from 3200. From Linus's testing it's about the same (IDK though ask others)

 

SSD is slightly faster. More than marginally.

[DrMacintosh]

3 minutes ago, Zed_ said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($195.69 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($81.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($107.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($87.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($42.49 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual Series Video Card  ($399.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($55.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1001.9

 

this? maybe bump up the PSU up a notch?

This would be better:(and cheaper) 

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/DrMacintosh/saved/FpKvK8

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, Zed_ said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($195.69 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($81.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($107.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($87.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($42.49 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual Series Video Card  ($399.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($55.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1001.9

 

this? maybe bump up the PSU up a notch?

It's already very high quality. Tier 3. My account is JDE and I approve this PSU*

Spoiler

*Doesn't like every US election ad have "I'm xxx and I approve this message"? I'm not American though.

 

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

This would be better:

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/DrMacintosh/saved/FpKvK8

UPVOTE

[DrMacintosh]

2 minutes ago, JDE said:

It's already very high quality. Tier 3. My account is JDE and I approve this PSU*

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*Doesn't like every US election ad have "I'm xxx and I approve this message"? I'm not American though.

 

Huh, apparently I have a t4 PSU. 

 

People always told me it was crap. 

[Zed_]

3 minutes ago, JDE said:

It's already very high quality. Tier 3. My account is JDE and I approve this PSU*

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*Doesn't like every US election ad have "I'm xxx and I approve this message"? I'm not American though.

 

Lol, neither am I, So, idk what they do. Anyways thanks for the advice on this build.

[DrMacintosh]

So this appears to be a happy compromise on everything for performance and for quality for the best price. 

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LKBtFd
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LKBtFd/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($195.69 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($107.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($87.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($42.49 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual Series Video Card  ($399.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Deepcool - TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1004.01
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-17 21:43 EDT-0400

[Zed_]

1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

So this appears to be a happy compromise on everything for performance and for quality for the best price. 

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LKBtFd
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LKBtFd/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($195.69 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($107.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($87.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($42.49 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual Series Video Card  ($399.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Deepcool - TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1004.01
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-17 21:43 EDT-0400

I will give it a shot. Thanks!

[Herman Mcpootis]

8 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

This would be better:(and cheaper) 

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/DrMacintosh/saved/FpKvK8

if you want to play it that way, this has a better looking case and an atx motherboard for just $1 more.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($195.69 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($81.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($107.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($87.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($42.49 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual Series Video Card  ($399.99 @ B&H) 
Case: DIYPC - VT380-W ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.89 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $985.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-17 21:46 EDT-0400