i5 4690k isn't bottle necking my 1080ti is it?

[mattonfire]

Hmm, is in the title

[Jurrunio]

Normally shouldn't, but there are always exceptions

[Tiwaz]

in some games definitely, but even if so, you will still have good fps. i have the same cpu and ordered an aorus gtx 1080 ti yesterday

[Princess Luna]

It has a good probability it does bottleneck it however without further information, not even what resolution you play it is literally impossible to say it is bottlenecking at what you do with it.

 

If you want someone to give you a meaningful response you should invest as much time writing the question as you'd like someone to invest writing you the response, the more data you can provide the more likely is any one to be accurate, simply ask "does 4690k bottleneck 1080ti" without any further info is pretty hard.

 

It is not like you're asking does a Core2Duo E7400 bottlenecks a Quadro P6000? where it would be dead obvious, it depends a lot on the user case.

[HKZeroFive]

It will depend on the game and resolution.

[SpaceGhostC2C]

Who knows...

(Who cares? )

 

Your CPU will only be a "bottleneck" if everythign else in your system (including your monitor!) would allow for a better image quality and frame rate, except your CPU can't keep up with that. Let's say you are gaming at 60FPS in some resolution: then it's not. If that resolution is 1080p, your 1080ti is just overkill. If it's 4K, everything is fine.

If you have a 144Hz monitor and you are trying to push high resolution, high frame rates? Then maybe. Probably depends on the resolution.

 

But the only thing you should care is: are you getting what you want out of your system?

 

[mattonfire]

7 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

It has a good probability it does bottleneck it however without further information, not even what resolution you play it is literally impossible to say it is bottlenecking at what you do with it.

 

If you want someone to give you a meaningful response you should invest as much time writing the question as you'd like someone to invest writing you the response, the more data you can provide the more likely is any one to be accurate, simply ask "does 4690k bottleneck 1080ti" without any further info is pretty hard.

 

It is not like you're asking does a Core2Duo E7400 bottlenecks a Quadro P6000? where it would be dead obvious, it depends a lot on the user case.

 

6 minutes ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

Who knows...

(Who cares? )

 

Your CPU will only be a "bottleneck" if everythign else in your system (including your monitor!) would allow for a better image quality and frame rate, except your CPU can't keep up with that. Let's say you are gaming at 60FPS in some resolution: then it's not. If that resolution is 1080p, your 1080ti is just overkill. If it's 4K, everything is fine.

If you have a 144Hz monitor and you are trying to push high resolution, high frame rates? Then maybe. Probably depends on the resolution.

 

But the only thing you should care is: are you getting what you want out of your system?

 

I'm running 2560x1080 at 144hz. The games I play very much varies, very few graphically intensive ones though. Usually RPG's like Portal 2, CS:GO, Bioshock Infinite etc.

[SpaceGhostC2C]

1 minute ago, mattonfire said:

 

I'm running 2560x1080 at 144hz. The games I play very much varies, very few graphically intensive ones though. Usually RPG's like Portal 2, CS:GO, Bioshock Infinite etc.

Man, sell that GPU!  

 

The question then is: are you getting 144FPS? If not, what are you getting? And what are your GPU and CPU usage levels?

[mattonfire]

Just now, SpaceGhostC2C said:

Man, sell that GPU!  

 

The question then is: are you getting 144FPS? If not, what are you getting? And what are your GPU and CPU usage levels?

I play at a high level on CS:GO the one big issue I used to get is that the graphics would often fluctuate higher and lower than the refreshrate which can be just as annoying as a low refresh rate. CPU levels very low, never above 30% in game. GPU is never higher than 30% either, and the CPU quite happily overclocked to a 4.2Ghz. I feel like it shouldn't be but it isn't that comfortable to play. 

[Gameborn]

6 minutes ago, mattonfire said:

 

I'm running 2560x1080 at 144hz. The games I play very much varies, very few graphically intensive ones though. Usually RPG's like Portal 2, CS:GO, Bioshock Infinite etc.

how to hell is portal2, cs go or bioshock infinite is rpg?

and at that resolution it probably won't bottleneck, but can bottleneck a bit in very cpu-demanding games like watch dogs 2 or battlefield 1

[mattonfire]

Just now, Gameborn said:

how to hell is portal2, cs go or bioshock infinite is rpg?

and at that resolution it probably won't bottleneck, but can bottleneck a bit in very cpu-demanding games like watch dogs 2 or battlefield 1

Badly worded, those games and RPG's :P. I play neither of those games, okii doky. I might wait until the new CPU's come out then maybe the prices will drop and I can snag a good one .

[MrJoosh]

2 minutes ago, mattonfire said:

I play at a high level on CS:GO the one big issue I used to get is that the graphics would often fluctuate higher and lower than the refreshrate which can be just as annoying as a low refresh rate. CPU levels very low, never above 30% in game. GPU is never higher than 30% either, and the CPU quite happily overclocked to a 4.2Ghz. I feel like it shouldn't be but it isn't that comfortable to play. 

Surely if your CPU usage is never higher than 30% then it's not causing a bottleneck (god that phrase is overused).

 

The signs of a bottleneck would be the CPU maxed out at 100% usage and the GPU not, because the CPU is holding it back.

[Gameborn]

Just now, mattonfire said:

Badly worded, those games and RPG's :P. I play neither of those games, okii doky. I might wait until the new CPU's come out then maybe the prices will drop and I can snag a good one .

something like ryzen 1600 or 1700 will do the trick, but you'll have to buy new mobo and ram

[mattonfire]

2 minutes ago, MrJoosh said:

Surely if your CPU usage is never higher than 30% then it's not causing a bottleneck (god that phrase is overused).

 

The signs of a bottleneck would be the CPU maxed out at 100% usage and the GPU not, because the CPU is holding it back.

I am then unaware why a 1080ti is unable to perform smooth in something as very undemanding as CS:GO.

1 minute ago, Gameborn said:

something like ryzen 1600 or 1700 will do the trick, but you'll have to buy new mobo and ram

Indeed. Aha this computer is only about 2 years old and it's already becoming obsolete. 

[SpaceGhostC2C]

6 minutes ago, mattonfire said:

I play at a high level on CS:GO the one big issue I used to get is that the graphics would often fluctuate higher and lower than the refreshrate which can be just as annoying as a low refresh rate.

How so? Are you getting tearing? You can use Vsync. Any form of stuttering?

6 minutes ago, mattonfire said:

CPU levels very low, never above 30% in game.

2 minutes ago, MrJoosh said:

Surely if your CPU usage is never higher than 30% then it's not causing a bottleneck (god that phrase is overused).

 

Not necessarily: the 4690K is a quad-core, so a game that only uses one core can be maxing it out and the total CPU usage wouldn't go beyond 25% (1 core at 100%, 3 cores at almost 0%). It's not enough to reach a conclusion, it will depend on how many cores the game uses.

[Gameborn]

Just now, mattonfire said:

I am then unaware why a 1080ti is unable to perform smooth in something as very undemanding as CS:GO.

Indeed. Aha this computer is only about 2 years old and it's already becoming obsolete. 

it's not obsolete, you can play games on it happily with this cpu and get 60+ fps. Just not 144.

[SpaceGhostC2C]

2 minutes ago, mattonfire said:

I am then unaware why a 1080ti is unable to perform smooth in something as very undemanding as CS:GO.

You said it sits at 30%. I don't see the GPU being a problem at all. It's just overkill, you could be playing CS:GO with a 1060. You could be playing it with and HD 79xx, FFS... 

 

2 minutes ago, mattonfire said:

Indeed. Aha this computer is only about 2 years old and it's already becoming obsolete. 

Well, I disagree in general, but I especially disagree with it being obsolete for undemanding games...

[Gameborn]

1 minute ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

How so? Are you getting tearing? You can use Vsync. Any form of stuttering?

 

Not necessarily: the 4690K is a quad-core, so a game that only uses one core can be maxing it out and the total CPU usage wouldn't go beyond 25% (1 core at 100%, 3 cores at almost 0%). It's not enough to reach a conclusion, it will depend on how many cores the game uses.

vsync creates additional input lag, so in that kind of games I won't use it (but I don't like cs anyway). And it should use at least two cores and most likely uses 4, it just nothing that load cpu that much, and it's graphics is worse than portal 2 (previous source game released year earlier)

[Gameborn]

1 minute ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

You said it sits at 30%. I don't see the GPU being a problem at all. It's just overkill, you could be playing CS:GO with a 1060. You could be playing it with and HD 79xx, FFS... 

 

Well, I disagree in general, but I especially disagree with it being obsolete for undemanding games...

anyway hd 7970 still a beast, I think it's around rx  570 level. And you can play cs go with rx 460 with 100+ fps.

[ARikozuM]

Seeing the first ten comments restored my faith in this community.

 

[TEARS]

[Gameborn]

Just now, ARikozuM said:

Seeing the first ten comments restored my faith in this community.

 

[TEARS]

I don't get it but maybe it's my bad English. Can you please explain?

[LooneyJuice]

4 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

Seeing the first ten comments restored my faith in this community.

 

[TEARS]

Hah! I was just going to say "Don't let ARikozuM see you asking this!"

[ARikozuM]

4 minutes ago, Gameborn said:

I don't get it but maybe it's my bad English. Can you please explain?

Usually the "bottleneck" crew would have come in with a resounding and certain "YAS!!!", but pretty much everyone gave a "it depends" or "are you getting the performance you need". 

 

@mattonfire You're fine with the 1080 Ti on 2560@1080. You'll notice the GPU not working as had as it should in some games, but they'll only get tougher to run. I'd look into DSR or, if you feel the need to upgrade something, a 4790K or 3440x1440@144Hz monitor in the future.

[mattonfire]

Just now, ARikozuM said:

4790K or 3440x1440@144Hz monitor in the future.

Indeed, I'd update the hardware before the monitor. I didn't think they made 3440x1440@144hz, wasn't there one meant to be released last year or something? Highest I've seen is a 120Hz(pre-overclocked) at that resolution. Alrighty, maybe it's my mental state, I mean human eyes can only see up to 24fps anyway 

 

[Gameborn]

Just now, ARikozuM said:

Usually the "bottleneck" crew would have come in with a resounding and certain "YAS!!!", but pretty much everyone gave a "it depends" or "are you getting the performance you need". 

 

@mattonfire You're fine with the 1080 Ti on 2560@1080. You'll notice the GPU not working as had as it should in some games, but they'll only get tougher to run. I'd look into DSR or, if you feel the need to upgrade something, a 4790K or 3440x1440@144Hz monitor in the future.

oh know I get it. There is also little community on russian youtube with "cpu not exposing gpu's portential" and more educated people making fun of them. And yeah, it depends on the game. You can say that i9-6950x (or whatever top-of-the-line) or ryzen threadripper bottlenecking 750 ti in minecraft (minecraft is very cpu-demanding but not gpu-demanding at all, this is why you can get 100+ fps on integrated graphics)