What cpu to get with the 1070

[Slowe]

I can't choose between these two CPU'sI can't choose between these two CPU's

- AMD Ryzen 7 1700

- Intel i7 7700k

Which one should I get in combination with a GTX 1070? I will use this to play mostly games such as  GTA V , Witcher3, Bf1. 

I would also use this for college so there is no need for video editing/rendering and that kind of stuff. I do like to multitask, like playing a heavy game with chrome tabs , skype, discord Spotify all active at the same time. ( my current 'PC' is a shitty MacBook that I got from school but I absolutely hate it and multitasking on it is absolutely not done.)

People are saying that I should get the I7 7700k since my main use thing with the PC will be gaming. I kinda agree but since Ryzen has better multitasking and more core's isn't it better to buy the Ryzen because it will be more future proof since new games might use more than 4 cores? or shall I go for the i7 7700k since it has better gaming stats.

 

 

[Phentos]

Do you plan on playing with a high refresh rate monitor? If yes, go 7700K.

 

Do you plan on eventually switching to a higher resolution? If yes, go Ryzen.

[Simon771]

For 1080p gaming Intel would be better.

But i7 7700k have bad thermals, so you would need to delid it to get any OC out of it, or at least not to have 80°C from stock settings.

 

If you are gaming on 1440p or 4K ... go for Ryzen. It's great

[Slowe]

 

Do you plan on playing with a high refresh rate monitor? If yes, go 7700K.

 

Do you plan on eventually switching to a higher resolution? If yes, go Ryzen.

 

 

I will use 1440  60 hz since  i can't find a 144hz 1440 monitor that isn't that expensive

[Damascus]

 

I will use 1440  60 hz since  i can't a 144hz 1440 monitor that isn't that expensive

R7 then

[ripper101]

 

For 1080p gaming Intel would be better.

But i7 7700k have bad thermals, so you would need to delid it to get any OC out of it, or at least not to have 80°C from stock settings.

 

If you are gaming on 1440p or 4K ... go for Ryzen. It's great

 

Why is Ryzen better at higher resolutions

[Slowe]

 

For 1080p gaming Intel would be better.

But i7 7700k have bad thermals, so you would need to delid it to get any OC out of it, or at least not to have 80°C from stock settings.

 

If you are gaming on 1440p or 4K ... go for Ryzen. It's great

 

want a 1440p 144z monitor so they are damn expensive so iIthink I will get 1440p 60 Hz monitor so I guess il take ryzen btw you are working on a ryzen build yourself how much does it cost? since you are getting 7 1700 with gtx 1070 aswell

[PCGuy_5960]

Get a Ryzen 5 1600 and a GTX 1080

[DocSwag]

22 minutes ago, Simon771 said:

For 1080p gaming Intel would be better.

But i7 7700k have bad thermals, so you would need to delid it to get any OC out of it, or at least not to have 80°C from stock settings.

 

If you are gaming on 1440p or 4K ... go for Ryzen. It's great

Once OP goes to a faster gpu though you'd see the difference even in 1440p or 4k. Resolution isn't a good argument for Ryzen.

[Phentos]

1 minute ago, DocSwag said:

Once OP goes to a faster gpu though you'd see the difference even in 1440p or 4k. Resolution isn't a good argument for Ryzen.

At 60hz it doesn't matter. And it won't matter for at least another couple of generations. 

 

If OP were going to use a higher refresh rate monitor, then I would agree. 

[DocSwag]

Just now, Phentos said:

At 60hz it doesn't matter. And it won't matter for at least another couple of generations. 

 

If OP were going to use a higher refresh rate monitor, then I would agree. 

OP will most likely upgrade, or at the very least more intense games will make the cpu bottleneck in the future.

[Phentos]

Just now, DocSwag said:

OP will most likely upgrade, or at the very least more intense games will make the cpu bottleneck in the future.

Just about every PC gamer I know, with one exception, has used a high refresh rate monitor and had returned or sold them. 144hz+ only matters for esports games, CS:GO, and Overwatch. For the games that OP is planning on playing, 60-75hz will be sufficient.  

 

Also we don't know how games will be in the future. 

[DrMikeNZ]

39 minutes ago, ripper101 said:

Why is Ryzen better at higher resolutions

Higher resolutions puts more stress on the GPU reducing the fps and relaxing the workload on the CPU.

While many games can use multiple threads, they often have a single threaded processes that operates critical game engine timing (physics etc). Ryzen does not overclock well, and isn't strong in single threaded performance, so it suffers a little with high fps gaming as these single threaded process creates a bottleneck where the rest of the CPU and GPU tasks need to wait for it to complete.

As the resolution increases, the frame-rate decreases and the workload of the CPU is no longer limited by single threaded performance and the workload can more evenly make use of the CPU making the multi-threaded CPU performance more important. Ryzen has more threads than the Intel's price counterparts, so tends to give more stable frame times when not single thread limited.

[DocSwag]

1 hour ago, Phentos said:

Just about every PC gamer I know, with one exception, has used a high refresh rate monitor and had returned or sold them. 144hz+ only matters for esports games, CS:GO, and Overwatch. For the games that OP is planning on playing, 60-75hz will be sufficient.  

 

Also we don't know how games will be in the future. 

Wot really? Kinda strange IMO

 

I can see my 75hz monitor limiting me in some cases. For sure.

[ripper101]

2 hours ago, DrMikeNZ said:

Higher resolutions puts more stress on the GPU reducing the fps and relaxing the workload on the CPU.

While many games can use multiple threads, they often have a single threaded processes that operates critical game engine timing (physics etc). Ryzen does not overclock well, and isn't strong in single threaded performance, so it suffers a little with high fps gaming as these single threaded process creates a bottleneck where the rest of the CPU and GPU tasks need to wait for it to complete.

As the resolution increases, the frame-rate decreases and the workload of the CPU is no longer limited by single threaded performance and the workload can more evenly make use of the CPU making the multi-threaded CPU performance more important. Ryzen has more threads than the Intel's price counterparts, so tends to give more stable frame times when not single thread limited.

 

So if I'm only gaming at 1080p the 7700k would be better?

[NicholasNicholasNicholas]

3 hours ago, Slowe said:

I can't choose between these two CPU'sI can't choose between these two CPU's

- AMD Ryzen 7 1700

- Intel i7 7700k

Which one should I get in combination with a GTX 1070? I will use this to play mostly games such as  GTA V , Witcher3, Bf1. 

I would also use this for college so there is no need for video editing/rendering and that kind of stuff. I do like to multitask, like playing a heavy game with chrome tabs , skype, discord Spotify all active at the same time. ( my current 'PC' is a shitty MacBook that I got from school but I absolutely hate it and multitasking on it is absolutely not done.)

People are saying that I should get the I7 7700k since my main use thing with the PC will be gaming. I kinda agree but since Ryzen has better multitasking and more core's isn't it better to buy the Ryzen because it will be more future proof since new games might use more than 4 cores? or shall I go for the i7 7700k since it has better gaming stats.

 

 

 

i recommend the 1600, but if you really want to game and nothing else, get the 7700k. higher clocks and ipc make it better for games

[Phentos]

4 hours ago, DocSwag said:

Wot really? Kinda strange IMO

 

I can see my 75hz monitor limiting me in some cases. For sure.

Everyone will have their own opinion, but I personally think the smoothness that 144hz+ monitors seem to give is just a placebo effect.

 

I'd much rather take color accuracy and a higher resolution over a 144hz TN panel. 144hz IPS panels suffer from heavy ghosting, unless you fork out serious cash for one of the top end ASUS ROG monitors or the like.

[Dalitten]

I just upgraded to a i7 7700k a few days ago from an i7 3770. And I would really recommend a 7700k with a GTX 1070. I OC'd mine to 4.8Ghz with 1.275V and getting 60-65C under gaming and 75-80C during Prime 95 (I use a Corsair H60). I play games like Playerunknown Battlegrounds at medium/high settings with 60-100fps. Arma 2/3 max settings with 50-70fps. In 1440 mind you  Very happy with the results! 

[Ordinarily_Greater]

On 2017-5-11 at 0:57 PM, Dalitten said:

I just upgraded to a i7 7700k a few days ago from an i7 3770. And I would really recommend a 7700k with a GTX 1070. I OC'd mine to 4.8Ghz with 1.275V and getting 60-65C under gaming and 75-80C during Prime 95 (I use a Corsair H60). I play games like Playerunknown Battlegrounds at medium/high settings with 60-100fps. Arma 2/3 max settings with 50-70fps. In 1440 mind you  Very happy with the results! 

Want to play with me and community in discord? Invite me and I send you the community there

[i_build_nanosuits]

On 2017-05-10 at 5:15 PM, PCGuy_5960 said:

Get a Ryzen 5 1600 and a GTX 1080

^^this!

[Ordinarily_Greater]

FYI OP, 7700K=Best 4 Gaming

Ryzen 7 1700 takes care the rest

[NicholasNicholasNicholas]

On 5/10/2017 at 1:48 PM, Slowe said:

I can't choose between these two CPU'sI can't choose between these two CPU's

- AMD Ryzen 7 1700

- Intel i7 7700k

Which one should I get in combination with a GTX 1070? I will use this to play mostly games such as  GTA V , Witcher3, Bf1. 

I would also use this for college so there is no need for video editing/rendering and that kind of stuff. I do like to multitask, like playing a heavy game with chrome tabs , skype, discord Spotify all active at the same time. ( my current 'PC' is a shitty MacBook that I got from school but I absolutely hate it and multitasking on it is absolutely not done.)

People are saying that I should get the I7 7700k since my main use thing with the PC will be gaming. I kinda agree but since Ryzen has better multitasking and more core's isn't it better to buy the Ryzen because it will be more future proof since new games might use more than 4 cores? or shall I go for the i7 7700k since it has better gaming stats.

 

 

 

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