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4790s to Ryzen, Worth It ??

I can't work out if i should upgrade or not, the answer for people with i3's and i5's is a bit more simple, as in, just get Ryzen. But for myself and other's ive spoken to who also have haswell i7's, we are a bit unsure if it's worth it.

 

IF i was going to get a Ryzen i would probably go for the 1600x, but that obviously involves a new MOBO and new RAM which i don't really want to deal with. The fact that i already have a fairly expensive platform, minus the CPU and GPU kinda puts me off replacing it. Basically i want to know if my 4790s is gonna hack it for another few years, more specifically if it will play nicely with a Vega when they drop ? I really want to give some love to red team this year but Ryzen seems a bit pointless and expensive for me.

 

What do you reckon ??

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CPU: i7 4790s ~ Motherboard: Asus B85M-E ~ RAM: 32GB Ballistix Sport DDR3 1666 ~ GPU: Sapphire R9 390 Nitro ~ Case: Corsair Carbide Spec-03 ~ Storage: Kingston Predator 240GB   PCIE M.2 Boot, 2TB HDD, 3x 480GB SATA SSD's in RAID 0 ~ PSU:    Corsair CX600
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I think the 4790 will be enough for the next couple of years. Im almost 100% sure that it won't bottleneck Vega.

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u already answered all ur questions xD

its performance is very close to ryzen in gaming...if u do heavy multitasking/rendering maybe ryzen upgrade is worth it otherwise nope 

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6 minutes ago, DnFx91 said:

What do you reckon ??

In short: No, its not worth it. The 4790 still is to be considered a high-end chip. Why would you wan't to swap it for a Ryzen chip in the first place? Rather upgrade some other component of your system.

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I think it might be a fun upgrade (because upgrading is always fun, if you have the money for it).  It's also not a bad time to sell your Haswell system because you can still get a good price for it.  But will you notice a difference?  Only for productivity type work, no difference in gaming.  Your CPU is good for a while longer and still very good for gaming.

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thought as much, i just needed someone to confirm the voice at the back of my mind :) cheers guys

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CPU: i7 4790s ~ Motherboard: Asus B85M-E ~ RAM: 32GB Ballistix Sport DDR3 1666 ~ GPU: Sapphire R9 390 Nitro ~ Case: Corsair Carbide Spec-03 ~ Storage: Kingston Predator 240GB   PCIE M.2 Boot, 2TB HDD, 3x 480GB SATA SSD's in RAID 0 ~ PSU:    Corsair CX600
Display(s): Asus PB287Q , Generic Samsung 1080p 22" ~ Cooling: Arctic T3 Air Cooler, All case fans replaced with Noctua NF-B9 Redux's ~ Keyboard: Logitech G810 Orion ~ Mouse: Cheap Microsoft Wired (i like it) ~ Sound: Radial Pro USB DAC into 250w Powered Speakers ~ Operating System: Windows 10 Enterprise x64
 

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CPU: Intel Xeon E3 1275 v3 ~ Motherboard: Asrock E3C226D2I ~ RAM: 16GB DDR3 ~ GPU: GTX 460 ~ Case: Silverstone SG05 ~ Storage: 512GB SATA SSD ~ Displays: 3x1080p 24" mix and matched Dell monitors plus a 10" 1080p lilliput monitor above ~ Operating System: Windows 10 Enterprise x64

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its mainly the 32GB of DDR3 that puts me off selling my i7 platform, that RAM was expensive lol, i definitely can't afford another 32 of DDR4

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CPU: i7 4790s ~ Motherboard: Asus B85M-E ~ RAM: 32GB Ballistix Sport DDR3 1666 ~ GPU: Sapphire R9 390 Nitro ~ Case: Corsair Carbide Spec-03 ~ Storage: Kingston Predator 240GB   PCIE M.2 Boot, 2TB HDD, 3x 480GB SATA SSD's in RAID 0 ~ PSU:    Corsair CX600
Display(s): Asus PB287Q , Generic Samsung 1080p 22" ~ Cooling: Arctic T3 Air Cooler, All case fans replaced with Noctua NF-B9 Redux's ~ Keyboard: Logitech G810 Orion ~ Mouse: Cheap Microsoft Wired (i like it) ~ Sound: Radial Pro USB DAC into 250w Powered Speakers ~ Operating System: Windows 10 Enterprise x64
 

Work PC:

CPU: Intel Xeon E3 1275 v3 ~ Motherboard: Asrock E3C226D2I ~ RAM: 16GB DDR3 ~ GPU: GTX 460 ~ Case: Silverstone SG05 ~ Storage: 512GB SATA SSD ~ Displays: 3x1080p 24" mix and matched Dell monitors plus a 10" 1080p lilliput monitor above ~ Operating System: Windows 10 Enterprise x64

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Really depends on if you need the extra 8 threads or not. Most people don't.

 

Also, upgrading the CPU will make you have to upgrade your motherboard and RAM too, so those are even extra costs. I would say no.

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depends, wait and see before making a decision. far as i can tell no but 1600x is not out we can't tell you of its capabilities, if it will bottleneck vega will have the same answer, wait and see. 

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Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

depends, wait and see before making a decision. far as i can tell no but 1600x is not out we can't i can't tell you its capabilities. if it will bottleneck vega will have the same answer, wait and see. 

i would certainly hope that no Ryzen chip will bottleneck any Vega GPU except maybe the super low end R3 SKU's. That would be embarrasing.

Home PC:

CPU: i7 4790s ~ Motherboard: Asus B85M-E ~ RAM: 32GB Ballistix Sport DDR3 1666 ~ GPU: Sapphire R9 390 Nitro ~ Case: Corsair Carbide Spec-03 ~ Storage: Kingston Predator 240GB   PCIE M.2 Boot, 2TB HDD, 3x 480GB SATA SSD's in RAID 0 ~ PSU:    Corsair CX600
Display(s): Asus PB287Q , Generic Samsung 1080p 22" ~ Cooling: Arctic T3 Air Cooler, All case fans replaced with Noctua NF-B9 Redux's ~ Keyboard: Logitech G810 Orion ~ Mouse: Cheap Microsoft Wired (i like it) ~ Sound: Radial Pro USB DAC into 250w Powered Speakers ~ Operating System: Windows 10 Enterprise x64
 

Work PC:

CPU: Intel Xeon E3 1275 v3 ~ Motherboard: Asrock E3C226D2I ~ RAM: 16GB DDR3 ~ GPU: GTX 460 ~ Case: Silverstone SG05 ~ Storage: 512GB SATA SSD ~ Displays: 3x1080p 24" mix and matched Dell monitors plus a 10" 1080p lilliput monitor above ~ Operating System: Windows 10 Enterprise x64

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Just now, DnFx91 said:

i would certainly hope that no Ryzen chip will bottleneck any Vega GPU except maybe the super low end R3 SKU's. That would be embarrasing.

Thats like complaining that an i5 will bottleneck a Titan.  Vega is looking suuuuper high end

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If you are only gaming it isn't worth to trade a 4790 for any Ryzen chip.

 

It's a sidegrade at best.

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2 minutes ago, Damascus said:

Thats like complaining that an i5 will bottleneck a Titan.  Vega is looking suuuuper high end

true, hence the qualifier "except the low end stuff"

Home PC:

CPU: i7 4790s ~ Motherboard: Asus B85M-E ~ RAM: 32GB Ballistix Sport DDR3 1666 ~ GPU: Sapphire R9 390 Nitro ~ Case: Corsair Carbide Spec-03 ~ Storage: Kingston Predator 240GB   PCIE M.2 Boot, 2TB HDD, 3x 480GB SATA SSD's in RAID 0 ~ PSU:    Corsair CX600
Display(s): Asus PB287Q , Generic Samsung 1080p 22" ~ Cooling: Arctic T3 Air Cooler, All case fans replaced with Noctua NF-B9 Redux's ~ Keyboard: Logitech G810 Orion ~ Mouse: Cheap Microsoft Wired (i like it) ~ Sound: Radial Pro USB DAC into 250w Powered Speakers ~ Operating System: Windows 10 Enterprise x64
 

Work PC:

CPU: Intel Xeon E3 1275 v3 ~ Motherboard: Asrock E3C226D2I ~ RAM: 16GB DDR3 ~ GPU: GTX 460 ~ Case: Silverstone SG05 ~ Storage: 512GB SATA SSD ~ Displays: 3x1080p 24" mix and matched Dell monitors plus a 10" 1080p lilliput monitor above ~ Operating System: Windows 10 Enterprise x64

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You would think the 4th gen overclocks would be so close anyway or surpassing Ryzen when gaming. You can still get good gains because of your 8 threads and IPC behind it.

 

Id only go Ryzen if you want extra cores at similar speeds for encoding and that typical stuff. But if your personal productivity is worth that to you then you can do that, or if your making money from it and "time is money".

 

Apart from that I'd just OC and be happy until its not happy.

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Just now, SkilledRebuilds said:

You would think the 4th gen overclocks would be so close anyway or surpassing Ryzen when gaming. You can still get good gains because of your 8 threads and IPC behind it.

 

Id only go Ryzen if you want extra cores at similar speeds for encoding and that typical stuff. But if your personal productivity is worth that to you then you can do that, or if your makimaking money from it and "time is money".

 

Apart from that I'd just OC and be happy until its not happy.

unfortunately it's a 4790s not K :(

 

and before you ask why, it was free :) another reason that Ryzen upgrade seems a bit silly

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CPU: i7 4790s ~ Motherboard: Asus B85M-E ~ RAM: 32GB Ballistix Sport DDR3 1666 ~ GPU: Sapphire R9 390 Nitro ~ Case: Corsair Carbide Spec-03 ~ Storage: Kingston Predator 240GB   PCIE M.2 Boot, 2TB HDD, 3x 480GB SATA SSD's in RAID 0 ~ PSU:    Corsair CX600
Display(s): Asus PB287Q , Generic Samsung 1080p 22" ~ Cooling: Arctic T3 Air Cooler, All case fans replaced with Noctua NF-B9 Redux's ~ Keyboard: Logitech G810 Orion ~ Mouse: Cheap Microsoft Wired (i like it) ~ Sound: Radial Pro USB DAC into 250w Powered Speakers ~ Operating System: Windows 10 Enterprise x64
 

Work PC:

CPU: Intel Xeon E3 1275 v3 ~ Motherboard: Asrock E3C226D2I ~ RAM: 16GB DDR3 ~ GPU: GTX 460 ~ Case: Silverstone SG05 ~ Storage: 512GB SATA SSD ~ Displays: 3x1080p 24" mix and matched Dell monitors plus a 10" 1080p lilliput monitor above ~ Operating System: Windows 10 Enterprise x64

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Do you just game or are you doing stuff like 3D animating/modeling/rendering and gaming?

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1 minute ago, QuantumElement said:

Do you just game or are you doing stuff like 3D animating/modeling/rendering and gaming?

already had a decent answer at this point but thanks for the interest, i do mainly game

Home PC:

CPU: i7 4790s ~ Motherboard: Asus B85M-E ~ RAM: 32GB Ballistix Sport DDR3 1666 ~ GPU: Sapphire R9 390 Nitro ~ Case: Corsair Carbide Spec-03 ~ Storage: Kingston Predator 240GB   PCIE M.2 Boot, 2TB HDD, 3x 480GB SATA SSD's in RAID 0 ~ PSU:    Corsair CX600
Display(s): Asus PB287Q , Generic Samsung 1080p 22" ~ Cooling: Arctic T3 Air Cooler, All case fans replaced with Noctua NF-B9 Redux's ~ Keyboard: Logitech G810 Orion ~ Mouse: Cheap Microsoft Wired (i like it) ~ Sound: Radial Pro USB DAC into 250w Powered Speakers ~ Operating System: Windows 10 Enterprise x64
 

Work PC:

CPU: Intel Xeon E3 1275 v3 ~ Motherboard: Asrock E3C226D2I ~ RAM: 16GB DDR3 ~ GPU: GTX 460 ~ Case: Silverstone SG05 ~ Storage: 512GB SATA SSD ~ Displays: 3x1080p 24" mix and matched Dell monitors plus a 10" 1080p lilliput monitor above ~ Operating System: Windows 10 Enterprise x64

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Just now, DnFx91 said:

already had a decent answer at this point but thanks for the interest, i do mainly game

Yeah, then definitely keep the processor you currently have :) Ryzen is more orientated towards Workstations and multitasking rather than gaming.

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I also have i7 4790k, and I will just wait 1 or 2 more years before I upgrade ... it get everything done for me right now, and I don't realy want to spend 90% of my money right now just to get new CPU xD 

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4 hours ago, Simon771 said:

I also have i7 4790k, and I will just wait 1 or 2 more years before I upgrade ... it get everything done for me right now, and I don't realy want to spend 90% of my money right now just to get new CPU xD 

yeah man, its still a great chip right, i mean mine is an S variant, but it still fucking plows onwards

Home PC:

CPU: i7 4790s ~ Motherboard: Asus B85M-E ~ RAM: 32GB Ballistix Sport DDR3 1666 ~ GPU: Sapphire R9 390 Nitro ~ Case: Corsair Carbide Spec-03 ~ Storage: Kingston Predator 240GB   PCIE M.2 Boot, 2TB HDD, 3x 480GB SATA SSD's in RAID 0 ~ PSU:    Corsair CX600
Display(s): Asus PB287Q , Generic Samsung 1080p 22" ~ Cooling: Arctic T3 Air Cooler, All case fans replaced with Noctua NF-B9 Redux's ~ Keyboard: Logitech G810 Orion ~ Mouse: Cheap Microsoft Wired (i like it) ~ Sound: Radial Pro USB DAC into 250w Powered Speakers ~ Operating System: Windows 10 Enterprise x64
 

Work PC:

CPU: Intel Xeon E3 1275 v3 ~ Motherboard: Asrock E3C226D2I ~ RAM: 16GB DDR3 ~ GPU: GTX 460 ~ Case: Silverstone SG05 ~ Storage: 512GB SATA SSD ~ Displays: 3x1080p 24" mix and matched Dell monitors plus a 10" 1080p lilliput monitor above ~ Operating System: Windows 10 Enterprise x64

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14 minutes ago, DnFx91 said:

yeah man, its still a great chip right, i mean mine is an S variant, but it still fucking plows onwards

In that case, wait 1 more year before you upgrade. And by that time, maybe new release of AMD CPUs will come out. Or prices will drop even lower. Or Intel might lower their prices.

 

I will just wait and see how that new war of AMD vs Intel will play out.

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