Why are intel SSDs so expensive?

[Natsoup]

Why are intel's solid state drives so pricey? Even their SATA3 drives are almost double what most other companies charge. Is there something really special about them?

[UMxMarky94]

1 minute ago, Natsoup said:

Is there something really special about them?

the intel bit =P

 

they could be there NVMe drive you where looking at, or out of productions one.

[grimreeper132]

because
A) intel tax

B) all the SSD companies have agreed to make them expensive, there is no way that they are that any where near that expensive to make

C) because intel know people think it's name means quality, and so people are willing to pay that.

D) because consumers who buy them are stupid and don't realise you can get cheaper else where

 

think that's all of them.

[UMxMarky94]

1 minute ago, grimreeper132 said:

because
A) intel tax

B) all the SSD companies have agreed to make them expensive, there is no way that they are that any where near that expensive to make

C) because intel know people think it's name means quality, and so people are willing to pay that.

D) because consumers who buy them are stupid and don't realise you can get cheaper else where

 

think that's all of them.

it a tad strange but some of their m.2 ssd are reasonable i think someone at intel has been smoking 

[grimreeper132]

1 minute ago, UMxMarky94 said:

it a tad strange but some of their m.2 ssd are reasonable i think someone at intel has been smoking 

I never looked into m.2 SSDs cause they don't affect me at the moment, and nah to have intel prices, there anit anything in the world that you can smoke that's strong enough, that being said, there is if you snort and/or inject

[SamFam]

Intel have monopolised the CPU market for far to long. Jacking prices up on not just there CPU's but also their storage options. I'm really glad that AMD have released Ryzen, because even if you hate AMD least there will be competition for Intel to get there ass in gear and stop over charging. Just look at their 7th gen CPU's there a joke compered to the performance increase of 6th gen over 5th gen was. Competition thanks to AMD will change this, and compition is always good for the consumer.

[Granular]

Because Intel have a separate brand for consumer oriented SSDs - Micron.

[reniat]

10 minutes ago, SamFam said:

Intel have monopolised the CPU market for far to long. Jacking prices up on not just there CPU's but also their storage options. I'm really glad that AMD have released Ryzen, because even if you hate AMD least there will be competition for Intel to get there ass in gear and stop over charging. Just look at their 7th gen CPU's there a joke compered to the performance increase of 6th gen over 5th gen was. Competition thanks to AMD will change this, and compition is always good for the consumer.

A huge part of the disparity in performance gains from skylake to kaby lake vs haswell to skylake was due to being a lithography shrink. Both skylake and kaby lake have a lithography of 14nm, while haswell was 22nm. That shrink results in a pretty significant performance gain.

It's the same as when the haswell line came out compared to the ivy bridge chips at the time. the difference between the 3770k and 4770k is pretty minimal, because those were both 22nm lithographies (see a pattern here?)

 

So while competition is ALWAYS good, it's not simply intel being lazy. Getting smaller is harder now, and it might not be until the 9th generation chips that we see another shrink to 10nm.

 

tl;dr, the lame performance gains from skylake to kaby lake are much more likely to be a result of being a "tock" on the same lithography vs just intel being lazy.

[Natsoup]

27 minutes ago, SamFam said:

Intel have monopolised the CPU market for far to long. Jacking prices up on not just there CPU's but also their storage options. I'm really glad that AMD have released Ryzen, because even if you hate AMD least there will be competition for Intel to get there ass in gear and stop over charging. Just look at their 7th gen CPU's there a joke compered to the performance increase of 6th gen over 5th gen was. Competition thanks to AMD will change this, and compition is always good for the consumer.

How is that relevant to this thread lol

[SamFam]

1 hour ago, Natsoup said:

How is that relevant to this thread lol

How did that comment help anyone...... lol..... 

[Natsoup]

34 minutes ago, SamFam said:

How did that comment help anyone...... lol..... 

I was pointing out that your post was not contributing to the thread in hope that you wouldn't do the same on other threads in the future or continue it on mine.

 

lol...... 

[Gwersebe]

Intel ssds are mainly in the datacenter which values reliability and performance so a lot of the intel ones are much more reliable than other brands i still have a 240gb intel sata 2 ssd which ive written 20tb to and it still works like new. but to answer your question a lot of the technology in intels ssd's are focused on the enterprise and the consumer stuff has a lot of that in it which costs more money to make even though it might not benefit the consumer market as much. But the new 600p series nvme ssds are a pretty reasonable price for what they are.

[SamFam]

On 16/03/2017 at 4:38 PM, Natsoup said:

I was pointing out that your post was not contributing to the thread in hope that you wouldn't do the same on other threads in the future or continue it on mine.

 

lol...... 

Someone needs to take the rod out of their arse.......  

[Natsoup]

5 minutes ago, SamFam said:

Someone needs to take the rod out of their arse.......  

Bad mood yesterday

[grimreeper132]

in fact I don't know what your talking about I feel $1500 for a 320GB SSD is perfectly reasonable (yes it has some special tech in it, but fucking hell the price)

[Natsoup]

1 minute ago, grimreeper132 said:

in fact I don't know what your talking about I feel $1500 for a 320GB SSD is perfectly reasonable (yes it has some special tech in it, but fucking hell the price)

Yeah, my PNY 450gb ssd was only $2500! I got a great deal!

[grimreeper132]

Just now, Natsoup said:

Yeah, my PNY 450gb ssd was only $2500! I got a great deal!

my munskin 240GB SSD was a steal at $800 and my kingston 240GB one, was so much more expensive at $1100  it's stupid, I don't care that it can store shit at a bit level, considering that the OS and the rest of the computer can even use that bit of new technology (pun intended).

[Natsoup]

Just now, grimreeper132 said:

my munskin 240GB SSD was a steal at $800 and my kingston 240GB one, was so much more expensive at $1100  it's stupid, I don't care that it can store shit at a bit level, considering that the OS and the rest of the computer can even use that bit of new technology (pun intended).

Seriously considering getting a decent m.2 though. Not intel, lol

[grimreeper132]

1 minute ago, Natsoup said:

Seriously considering getting a decent m.2 though. Not intel, lol

I would get one, if they were:

A) affordable (they have a far to highh price per GB)

B) the benefit was worth it for me (a normal SSD does me fine as I need more in system storage)