Alleged new secret PS4 DRM in TOS

[_ASSASSIN_]

http://legaldoc.dl.playstation.net/ps3-eula/psn/e/e_tosua_en.html

 

take a look for yourself, has to deal with the re-sale of disks

[_ASSASSIN_]

lel whoops

[Sarcasm]

Better question: Who the heck was actually reading the ToS?

[_ASSASSIN_]

Better question: Who the heck was actually reading the ToS?

this kid apparently  

[Norwegiantweaker]

Better question: Who the heck was actually reading the ToS?

those who havent got any games to play on ps4 lol

[Lord Pantaloons]

does not concern me

[Guerrero]

does not concern me

[Guest rdq8906]

I'm wondering if this is to address illegal copies of games, because Sony essentially authorized the reselling of your game when they announced it at E3 and made that video.

[Cronus]

They do this for everything. It's the same deal with current generation games, and it was the same for the generation before that, and it's the same with all other forms of media. It's a formality that's non-enforced (evidenced by the fact that games have previously been and will continue to be sold used) and not news, just people in the XBOX camp, or paranoid people in general, trying to stir shit up or freaking out over nothing after being burned before.

 

This console war is already full of enough ignorance, don't escalate this nonsense and make it even worse.  :wacko:

[nicehat]

does not concern me

 

[Sasquatch43]

They do this for everything. It's the same deal with current generation games, and it was the same for the generation before that, and it's the same with all other forms of media. It's a formality that's non-enforced (evidenced by the fact that games have previously been and will continue to be sold used) and not news, just people in the XBOX camp, or paranoid people in general, trying to stir shit up or freaking out over nothing after being burned before.

In the video the guy said this was not in the terms of service a couple months ago

[Sarcasm]

People worried about Apple turning them into a human centipede.

 

Thats what I remember from the South Park episode. 

I worry about whoever wrote the script for that episode...

[James_AJ]

I worry about whoever wrote the script for that episode...

*slow claps*

[EChondo]

This is why we wait before we buy things!

[Cronus]

In the video the guy said this was not in the terms of service a couple months ago

 

It doesn't matter. What do you think is about to happen? Do you think suddenly a day before release Sony is going to say "lolnousedgames", burn all their bridges with every retailer that deals in used titles instantly, and point at the less than a paragraph in their ToS to tell you why? It will be the end of them in the console space if they pull something like that. The PSN ToS is first and foremost the first line of defense to cover their butts legally, like any other one. Terms like this can be useful for any number of things, like preventing customers from blaming Sony if any of the publishers decide to lock down content that's on the disc, like so many of them do these days, or preventing those publishers from blaming Sony for allowing customers to be sold an incomplete or nonfunctional product. It covers software as well, which is already locked down.

 

Sony will be sued to hell if they misled the consumer in the way people are assuming they must be, and they'd face governmental charges as well in a lot of places. This whole issue is removed from reality.

[Guerrero]

This is why we wait before we buy things!

What I learned about BF4

[Sasquatch43]

It doesn't matter. What do you think is about to happen? Do you think suddenly a day before release Sony is going to say "lolnousedgames", burn all their bridges with every retailer that deals in used titles instantly, and point at the less than a paragraph in their ToS to tell you why? It will be the end of them in the console space if they pull something like that. The PSN ToS is first and foremost the first line of defense to cover their butts legally, like any other one. Terms like this can be useful for any number of things, like preventing customers from blaming Sony if any of the publishers decide to lock down content that's on the disc, like so many of them do these days, or preventing those publishers from blaming Sony for allowing customers to be sold an incomplete or nonfunctional product. It covers software as well, which is already locked down.

 

Sony will be sued to hell if they misled the consumer in the way people are assuming they must be, and they'd face governmental charges as well in a lot of places. This whole issue is removed from reality.

I was just stating that you said it has been the same for the last 2 generations but it was just added just before this generation

[techswede]

This is why we wait before we buy things!

This is why we wait for someone else to buy the things Before us

[Gullerback]

Reading it, it just looks like them covering their bases for people trying to jailbreak / hack the Console to play pirated content.  Not a massive deal, but people love to create drama on the looming release day

[Cronus]

I was just stating that you said it has been the same for the last 2 generations but it was just added just before this generation

It is the same. Do the PSN terms of service only apply to games releases this generation? Unless something has happened recently that I'm unaware of, the Vita and PS3 operate on PSN as well. Are they going to stop taking used games for Sony games tomorrow? Most media is not technically supposed to be resold (hell, most things non-media as well) if you ask the legal team of the companies' responsible for that media lawyers.

[TopWargamer]

Sony...I thought you were for non-DRM on the resell of games. What happened? 

[kuddlesworth9419]

Nothing wrong with that. There would be a problem if you couldn't share the game with a friend though. 

[silencerbob]

Remember that funny video at E3 that showed a guy trade a game to another guy? Yeah I didn't see any money change hands either. Doesn't mean it won't happen.. Doesn't mean u can't trade games either... You can carry on as normal. Perhaps stores can no longer sell preowned games.. Perhaps they can.. We shall see.