UPDATED G2A has flaw in their system pointed out to them, promptly "bans" user after issue is pointed out.

[Nexxus]

Update, they are now replying directly to my thread itself. Definitely damage control mode. 

[Murdoch]

19 minutes ago, Prysin said:

If you believe the media, sure. 

 

I'd argue trump is far less of an evil then G2A

Godwin's law was an observation that in any online discussion regardless of topic, eventually a comparison to Hitler / the Nazis will be made.

 

I think his point about Trump is kinda true in contemporary online discussion.

[Prysin]

7 minutes ago, Ringthane said:

Yes, because G2A has their hand on the button that launches all the really big missiles, right?

 

Yeah.  That's what I thought.

No state leaders are going to use nukes. Because they will never win. 

 

So your argument is both childish and show a extremely shallow understanding of reality. 

[Prysin]

2 minutes ago, Murdoch said:

Godwin's law was an observation that in any online discussion regardless of topic, eventually a comparison to Hitler / the Nazis will be made.

 

I think his point about Trump is kinda true in contemporary online discussion.

Yes, his point is true in a contemporary setting. 

[Misanthrope]

38 minutes ago, Derangel said:

2014 for me. I haven't needed to buy Windows key since that time though. 8.1 went with my through a couple motherboards then I got the free update to 10. If I needed a new key at some point though I'd either buy a retail box or purchase a key from Microsoft or an authorized reseller.

But as you said, you don't need to. Microsoft perceives long term users like you or me as a solid foundation for their new OS level advertisement platform and store, why they pushed so hard for all to upgrade.

 

Honestly I firmly believe Satya Nadella's original plan was to make consumer Windows 10 free for everybody forever, to focus on adoption rate and henceforth a large user base install to sell to advertisers (The google model basically) But this (kinda lame) compromise of free updgrades was the best he could get through the board of directors and such.

[spartaman64]

G2A is a shady company

 

 

 

[Kobathor]

4 hours ago, Sampsy said:

• They sell stolen keys
• They sell fake keys
• They let you pay no VAT (which is illegal and I wouldn't be surprised if you do select to pay VAT if it just goes to G2A)
• G2A shield offers no protection whatsoever - it's a scam
• If there is a problem support will provide an automated response, then ignore you. You must initiate a dispute with your credit card / paypal (which G2A will ignore) to receive a refund.

1. G2A doesn't sell keys, they facilitate sales

2. G2A still doesn't sell keys

3. You get the option cause they sell in more places than the EU, and they don't have multiple sites. I live in the US, so I think VAT is batty anyways.

4. correct. all it offers is quicker help

5. probably correct

 

I don't love G2A or anything, just clearing up misconceptions. People keep saying how "G2A sells stolen keys!!" but really their sellers may sell stolen keys, but nobody has any way of knowing which keys were stolen and which keys weren't.. Unless you're the dev of the game, in which case you can just report the stolen keys to G2A..

 

But that's all info from the AMA, which I'm sure is mostly just damage control. The AMA is silly anyways, the whole thread is everybody asking one question, and all getting referred to where G2A replied to that single question. Really, everybody is asking the same question. The rest of the thread is children asking stupid questions like "HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE SHITHEADS??"

[Kobathor]

19 minutes ago, spartaman64 said:

G2A is a shady company

He did prove them wrong by explicitly breaking their Terms of Service. I think it was dumb of him to break their rules, show them him breaking their rules, and expect to be let off free.

 

It's scummy that (as of now, only a day later) his G2A wallet is locked out (AKA he can't get the money he already earned,) but I honestly think he'll get the money, cause they DON'T wanna get sued.

[goodtofufriday]

10 minutes ago, Kobathor said:

He did prove them wrong by explicitly breaking their Terms of Service. I think it was dumb of him to break their rules, show them him breaking their rules, and expect to be let off free.

 

It's scummy that (as of now, only a day later) his G2A wallet is locked out (AKA he can't get the money he already earned,) but I honestly think he'll get the money, cause they DON'T wanna get sued.

Demonstrating a flaw as proof that a payed service is not operating as advertised  is a different category than breaking TOS.

[Dialer Turden]

Its good to see that people are waking up to the fact that G2A is nothing more than a money laundering operation.

[79wjd]

10 minutes ago, goodtofufriday said:

Demonstrating a flaw as proof that a payed service is not operating as advertised  is a different category than breaking TOS.

Actually it's not. You can very easily get sued or go to jail for white hat hacking. If you want to show a vulnerability in something, then you need explicit written authorization from someone who's has the legal power to authorize it.

[suicidalfranco]

2 hours ago, Ringthane said:

Yes, because G2A has their hand on the button that launches all the really big missiles, right?

 

Yeah.  That's what I thought.

yeah cause trump assassinated all those who opposed him to get where he is now.

yeah. that's what i thought.

[goodtofufriday]

1 hour ago, djdwosk97 said:

Actually it's not. You can very easily get sued or go to jail for white hat hacking. If you want to show a vulnerability in something, then you need explicit written authorization from someone who's has the legal power to authorize it.

isnt that only if it harms the company or puts them at risk? The error showed just lets a user basically charge themselves.

[79wjd]

1 minute ago, goodtofufriday said:

isnt that only if it harms the company or puts them at risk? The error showed just lets a user basically charge themselves.

AFAIK it doesn't have to affect anyone. If you try to "break" the site you violate the TOS. Also, unless I'm mistaken, anyone could have purchased his fake listing -- not just him.

[goodtofufriday]

1 minute ago, djdwosk97 said:

AFAIK it doesn't have to affect anyone. If you try to "break" the site you violate the TOS. Also, unless I'm mistaken, anyone could have purchased his fake listing -- not just him.

True enough. I guess it is hard to argue the ban then. But as PR goes it hurt more than it helped. 

[79wjd]

2 minutes ago, goodtofufriday said:

True enough. I guess it is hard to argue the ban then. But as PR goes it hurt more than it helped. 

I dont have a problem with them banning his account. As far as I'm concerned, that's fair. However, thats not quite what they did. They locked his wallet and are still allowing him to sell things. That's where the problem lies IMHO.

[typographie]

3 hours ago, Prysin said:

I'd argue trump is far less of an evil then G2A

We'll have to see if the world is still in a recognizable and habitable state in four years. I'll very tepidly agree for now, though.

[goodtofufriday]

2 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

I dont have a problem with them banning his account. As far as I'm concerned, that's fair. However, thats not quite what they did. They locked his wallet and are still allowing him to sell things. That's where the problem lies IMHO.

Ah i didnt get that from reading. Thats sounds more like the G2A i know and hate

[stealth80]

7 hours ago, zMeul said:

you do get it that G2A knowingly allows sale of stolen keys, do you actually think they'll apologize for it?

 

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you want to buy cheap? wait for a fucking sale! STEAM has them, GoG has them, Humble Bundle has pay what you want

 

markets like G2A, Kinguin and similar are legal black markets for stolen keys

some people who buy there don't know, but the people who advertise G2A (and similar) should get cancer

"Should get cancer" I guess you have never seen anyone dying of cancer? fucking idiot

[Remixt]

Banning someone's ability to get their money seems fairly illegal.

[stealth80]

16 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

I dont have a problem with them banning his account. As far as I'm concerned, that's fair. However, thats not quite what they did. They locked his wallet and are still allowing him to sell things. That's where the problem lies IMHO.

The guy did say that if people are found to be selling stolen keys then their account funds are frozen for 14 days and guy basically went and proved to them he had been selling stolen keys, looked like a stupid move to me. Also call me a conspiracy theorist, but it all looked a little smooth on the investigators side and wouldn't surprise me if Ubi/Origin/Steam put someone up to this.

 

It appears a dickmove, but the guy basically admitted to selling stolen keys after they said funds are frozen if accounts are suspicious - pretty stupid for him to bitch about them being frozen after that .....

[79wjd]

1 minute ago, stealth80 said:

The guy did say that if people are found to be selling stolen keys then their account funds are frozen for 14 days and guy basically went and proved to them he had been selling stolen keys, looked like a stupid move to me. Also call me a conspiracy theorist, but it all looked a little smooth on the investigators side and wouldn't surprise me if Ubi/Origin/Steam put someone up to this.

 

It appears a dickmove, but the guy basically admitted to selling stolen keys after they said funds are frozen if accounts are suspicious - pretty stupid for him to bitch about them being frozen after that .....

Just to be clear, I don't have a problem with them locking his wallet either (assuming they unlock it in a reasonable amount of time or prove that he sold fraudulent goods) -- giving them time to review and validate all his sales. I have a problem with them locking his wallet while still allowing him to sell. 

[VerticalDiscussions]

Screw G2A.... Bought a 0.39 pre-order armor for Doom multiplayer (last year) and thats it! Then i obviously forgot to cancel the 30 day free shield time (because its clearly accessible to all users.... just not) and they took me the 1€! PayPal got it back for me, because i wasnt gonna let these thieves take my €!

 

#DownWithG2A, #IBeatTheyrSystem.

 

:L, sorry.

[spartaman64]

3 hours ago, Kobathor said:

He did prove them wrong by explicitly breaking their Terms of Service. I think it was dumb of him to break their rules, show them him breaking their rules, and expect to be let off free.

 

It's scummy that (as of now, only a day later) his G2A wallet is locked out (AKA he can't get the money he already earned,) but I honestly think he'll get the money, cause they DON'T wanna get sued.

 

 

its technically breaking TOS but like linus said in a wan show you would be expected to be protected by the human reasoning factor in scenarios like this

[Kobathor]

2 minutes ago, spartaman64 said:

its technically breaking TOS but like linus said in a wan show you would be expected to be protected by the human reasoning factor in scenarios like this

I don't agree with him being punished, but he was foolish to do it in the first place, and it's at G2A's discrepancy on whether to ban him or not.