Samsung preventing competitors from using Snapdragon 835

[Doobeedoo]

Well it's great on Samsung part, it's not surprising to me really. They're a major player with Qualcomm and have fabbed the chip themselves. Also they need enormous amount of chips, so logical to hoard them. 

[NannerBeans]

Unfortunately, when you're on the top like Samsung is, they have the power to do things like this to give them the advantage. It's just how capitalism works. I won't be getting a Samsung phone but I wouldn't say Samsung is in the wrong here. 

[patrick3027]

11 hours ago, Aniallation said:

There's only been a very small amount of rumors about the S8 possibly coming with the Exynos 8895 chip, but even those have died off and the only SoC that's been anywhere close to confirmed for the S8 so far is the 835.

They had to ship the S6 with an Exynos due to the Snapdragon 810 debacle and they used a lot of Exynos chips on the S7 (it was the first time Europe gor the Exynos variant instead of the Snapdragon one). Would be pretty interesting if they start using Qualcomm more again and Europe gets the Snapdragon 835. 

[SansVarnic]

Interesting. 

[dalekphalm]

I really don't see where the outrage is coming from... Also, I personally feel like the Title is misleading, borderline Clickbait.

 

Samsung is simply putting a large purchase order into the Qualcomm manufacturers. Who they decide to do business with, and how, is up to them. If they're guaranteeing Samsung that large a supply, it's because they see a big order, and want to make money.

 

This won't stop other OEM manufacturers from ordering supply from the Qualcomm manufacturers. I'm not sure who all builds Snapdragons, but I assume both Samsung's own fabs, as well as TSMC.

 

I could see Samsung utilizing their own Fab's to allot 835's just for Samsung phones... but... I don't think there's anything inherently wrong or illegal about that. Samsung's Fab division isn't going to turn other customers away. They will sell as much as possible to as many as possible. And there's TSMC who won't play favourites with Samsung.

[dragoon20005]

8 hours ago, dalekphalm said:

I really don't see where the outrage is coming from... Also, I personally feel like the Title is misleading, borderline Clickbait.

 

Samsung is simply putting a large purchase order into the Qualcomm manufacturers. Who they decide to do business with, and how, is up to them. If they're guaranteeing Samsung that large a supply, it's because they see a big order, and want to make money.

 

This won't stop other OEM manufacturers from ordering supply from the Qualcomm manufacturers. I'm not sure who all builds Snapdragons, but I assume both Samsung's own fabs, as well as TSMC.

 

I could see Samsung utilizing their own Fab's to allot 835's just for Samsung phones... but... I don't think there's anything inherently wrong or illegal about that. Samsung's Fab division isn't going to turn other customers away. They will sell as much as possible to as many as possible. And there's TSMC who won't play favourites with Samsung.

Qualcomm had a contract with Samsung for over a decade and the recent news of the SnapDragon 835 that is manufactured using the 10nm process in a Samsung fab isn't new to me. So for Qualcomm to allocate a huge amount of SoCs for their business partner Samsung is not illegal.

 

The title is clickbait and f***ing misleading

 

Even if the allotment of the 835 is lesser for the other phone manufacturers

 

Companies like Huawei and Xiaomi using other SoCs like MediaTek and Hisilicon Kirin 960 which is a SnapDragon similar kind of SoC in their flagship phones.

[suicidalfranco]

2 hours ago, dragoon20005 said:

Qualcomm had a contract with Samsung for over a decade and the recent news of the SnapDragon 835 that is manufactured using the 10nm process in a Samsung fab isn't new to me. So for Qualcomm to allocate a huge amount of SoCs for their business partner Samsung is not illegal.

 

The title is clickbait and f***ing misleading

 

Even if the allotment of the 835 is lesser for the other phone manufacturers

 

Companies like Huawei and Xiaomi using other SoCs like MediaTek and Hisilicon Kirin 960 which is a SnapDragon similar kind of SoC in their flagship phones.

only huawei uses kirin and mediatek as nothing that can stand against snapdragon

 

on topic: hope that international model will still come with exynos

[randomhkkid]

3 hours ago, dragoon20005 said:

Qualcomm had a contract with Samsung for over a decade and the recent news of the SnapDragon 835 that is manufactured using the 10nm process in a Samsung fab isn't new to me. So for Qualcomm to allocate a huge amount of SoCs for their business partner Samsung is not illegal.

 

The title is clickbait and f***ing misleading

True, I made no mention or any indication that what they are doing is illegal. How is the title misleading? Samsung are preventing competitors using the chip indirectly by monopolising the supply.

[Tieox]

[Dackzy]

Smart move by Samsung, but FFS now I have to wait even longer to get a phone with a 835, since I HATE what Samsung does to Android.

[dalekphalm]

4 hours ago, randomhkkid said:

True, I made no mention or any indication that what they are doing is illegal. How is the title misleading? Samsung are preventing competitors using the chip indirectly by monopolising the supply.

I'm sorry, but how are they "indirectly" monopolizing the supply? The suppliers can do business with anyone they want, and I'm sure they'll do business with anyone who wants the chips.

 

Samsung aren't preventing anyone from doing anything. The article doesn't provide any proof that Samsung is deliberately preventing competitors from using the 835. It mostly seems to be speculation based on the fact that Samsung's Fab division is making 835's.

[suicidalfranco]

i'd be sad, but then again the G6 is going to be a an iClone, and since LG was the only OEM out there to make phones how i like them, i don't really care if they can't get a hold of qualcomm's new soc, the phone would have been an iClone shit anyway

[Mira Yurizaki]

I find this really weird that they would try to hold an iron grip on a Qualcomm part. I mean, they've proven their own chip can compete against Apple, so why do they still use Qualcomm?

 

Anyway, I'm sure Qualcomm will just have another chip for everyone else to use in the mean time.

[Mira Yurizaki]

7 hours ago, Kierax said:

Well they need ammo for their turret:

[Tieox]

9 hours ago, M.Yurizaki said:

Well they need ammo for their turret:

 

And this guy to fire it

 

 

[Snadzies]

18 hours ago, randomhkkid said:

True, I made no mention or any indication that what they are doing is illegal. How is the title misleading? Samsung are preventing competitors using the chip indirectly by monopolising the supply.

The problem is that the way the title is worded makes it seem Samsung is deliberately buying up all the chips so that no other competitors can release a phone with said CPU before Samsung rather than Samsung having placed a very large order to make sure they have enough for their upcoming S8 and as a side effect of that there may not be enough chips for other phone manufacturers for a while.

 

Maybe Samsung is deliberately preventing others from buying the chip, maybe it is just a consequence of the large amount they need, the problem is that the title's wording pushes the idea that the former is the case and not the later with no real proof in the article to support the former.

 

A title along the lines of "Samsung puts in a large order for Snapdragon 835 causing shortages for other manufacturers".

I think that is a more neutral title that leaves people to come to their own conclusion as to whether Samsung has any malicious intents or not behind their actions whereas the original title more heavily suggests a deliberate wrongdoing on Samsung's part.