Is overclocking bad ?

[Stonep11]

I want it to last 3-5 years

You should be fine then at those clocks for that long.

[piplupgao]

This is my build http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/GoldenTree/saved/2EqL

I think you can squeeze in a 7970

But to answer your original question unless you have. A bad overclocker you'll be fine

[Blade of Grass]

From what I know, overclocking doesn't bring down your processor lifespan, unless it's overheating.

 

If you're worried about breaking something you can always buy an Intel Performance Tuning Protection Plan.That way if something happens, Intel will replace your processor even if you're running outside of specifications (i.e. overclocking).

The cost varies for the different processor, but for yours it would cost between $20 - $25 (assuming you do not have an extreme edition processor.

[GoldenTree]

I think you can squeeze in a 7970

But to answer your original question unless you have. A bad overclocker you'll be fine

 

Thanks, why the 7970 ? also what about the frame times more frames but does not look smooth

[GoldenTree]

From what I know, overclocking doesn't bring down your processor lifespan, unless it's overheating.

 

If you're worried about breaking something you can always buy an Intel Performance Tuning Protection Plan.That way if something happens, Intel will replace your processor even if you're running outside of specifications (i.e. overclocking).

The cost varies for the different processor, but for yours it would cost between $20 - $25 (assuming you do not have an extreme edition processor.

 

Cool thanks I will deffentantly check this out but im still looking for a mild overclock

[piplupgao]

Thanks, why the 7970 ? also what about the frame times more frames but does not look smooth

More powah and mantle

[GoldenTree]

More powah and mantle

 

Ok I understand more raw power but mantle ? We have nothing show is it really going to be a great proformance boost and if it will be in many games just like nvidia amd has to play to put that in and not a lot of games run phyx is mantle going to be anhy different ?

[ultimatemythbuster]

There are benefits and drawbacks.  Each user needs to determine which one outweighs the other.

[atrash]

This is my build http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/GoldenTree/saved/2EqL

why 760? You can do much better with 7950 or 7970 and still not be underpowered for the next 2-3years gaming at 1080p/1440p. Also do try to reconfigure your build and include an ssd because that Green line WD is horrible as a system drive and only good for storage

[Darell3]

As long as your CPU has good cooling, its should last long.

[Arshdeep]

Well this is my question, by how much is your cpu life going to go down by overclocking because when I build my pc I plan to achieve a oc of 4.2-4.6 hopefully for my first time 

Watch guides, know the info, have a good cooling solution, know what you are doing. We went over basics on LTT channel and forums in cpu/mobo category. 

[WoodenMarker]

haswell isn't a very good overclocker you'll be really lucky to get those clocks I reccommend you get a 3570k or an fx8350

It's worth going Haswell for the better mobos alone.

Ok I understand more raw power but mantle ? We have nothing show is it really going to be a great proformance boost and if it will be in many games just like nvidia amd has to play to put that in and not a lot of games run phyx is mantle going to be anhy different ?

Mantle and PhysX are hardly the same thing. PhysX is more of a feature and gimmick than anything else. It's cool and all but it's job isn't to affect performance. Mantle allows developers to work closer to the hardware to allow for optimization like that of consoles. It sounds like you can read up a bit more on Mantle: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7371/understanding-amds-mantle-a-lowlevel-graphics-api-for-gcn

[OddlyShapedTree]

It isn't bad enough for you to care, these components can last hundreds of years, so making their lifespan shorter isn't that big a deal. You will more than likely upgrade your component before it dies because you stole its last years away for those extra frames.

[GoldenTree]

It's worth going Haswell for the better mobos alone.

Mantle and PhysX are hardly the same thing. PhysX is more of a feature and gimmick than anything else. It's cool and all but it's job isn't to affect performance. Mantle allows developers to work closer to the hardware to allow for optimization like that of consoles. It sounds like you can read up a bit more on Mantle: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7371/understanding-amds-mantle-a-lowlevel-graphics-api-for-gcn

 

Yeah i guess I should 

[Biased Opinion]

there is no such thing as to much power(i mean this is terms of compute power, if you kill your chip because you thought it meant voltage then i am not accountable).

[flibberdipper]

It does slightly decrease the life of the component, but by the time it would show any signs of degradation, it would be too outdated to really use.

[Guest]

Answer: don't think about it 

 

Just do it.

[Kirihuna]

Dunno if we discussed this already, but doesn't Intel have it where if you break a chip while over clocking, they'll replace it?

[Guest]

It actually isn't bad, and your cpu life span wont even decrease, it will only if the cpu excedes its maximal temperatures, 4670k is a good overclocker, i think it would be good to keep it under 80. You need good cooling and much tweaking and you will reach arround 4.6 ghz. On the other end 4.2 is easy.

[Saladin]

Dunno if we discussed this already, but doesn't Intel have it where if you break a chip while over clocking, they'll replace it?

Yeah you can pay like $20 for insurance.

[CAKEwasTRUE]

yes and no!

[mgsstar]

It isn't bad if you maintain it below 80C and don't go overkill on the voltage. Here is @ProKoN 's guide in overclocking:http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/41234-intel-haswell-4670k-4770k-overclocking-guide/

 

From @ProKoN:

 

0V-1.3V For people concerned about volts\heat. up to 1.3V is playing it SAFE. be happy with your clocks at 1.3V. using an air cooler. I have found that up to 1.3V will offer the best performance ratio in terms of GHz\Watt

 

1.3V-1.44V Still safe without risking CPU degradation . Requires a good cooling solution ( top notch AIO cooler) NOT recommended for people using air cooling or people concerned with heat or volts applied

 

1.45V and Higher. For extreme Overclockers only. from my testing going over 1.45V to achieve higher clock speeds is pointless. the performance\Watt drops heavily and massive amounts of heat is generated.

If you are afraid in breaking your expensive CPU from overclocking, I would recommend you to get a Performance Tuning Protection Plan from Intel. If your Intel CPU is still under Intel's warranty, you would be eligible for this plan. The plan costs $25 USD for your 4670K and you can replace the CPU if you by any chance break your CPU from overclocking. If you want to know more information and the terms and condition for this plan, visit http://click.intel.com/tuningplan/.

[KneesWeak]

I think you can squeeze in a 7970

But to answer your original question unless you have. A bad overclocker you'll be fine

280x

[zombiepixel]

i can see where your coming from thinking this but as long as you don't over overclock you will get the most value. its either you get the most during the time you'll have that CPU or have the CPU last longer then its even worth having. 

[orangecat]

Put it this way unless you overclock your CPU to like 7Ghz its going to last way more then long enough to the point where you may have upgraded years ago and that chip may finally die. So unless you are pushing world record overclocks don't worry about dead CPUs.