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3 hours ago, Talamakara said:

I completely disagree. There is nothing out there that a macbook can do better than a windows based laptop of the SAME price range.

 

2 hours ago, Dash Lambda said:

In a vacuum, yeah.

Problem is, you actually have to compare them to something, and when you do that, their benefits are quite sparse.

 

the problem is that nothing else runs OSX which is a benefit in its own right

 

I mean spec for spec id get the new blade or an MSI or something, but Macbooks are still awesome machine for content creators

 

id love to get one purely for photo and vidoe work, forgetting the specs they just so well optimised for those applications 

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1 hour ago, 2Buck said:

Yeah, I figured that too! My jaw dropped when I saw Linus and Luke going over the specs on the WAN show. Oh, and it only has 8GB of RAM which is just pathetic for the price.

 

I mean, I can understand laptops for 1000$ or less having dual cores, but a "pro" laptop for 2000$ having a dual core is just plain idiotic.

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8 minutes ago, ShadowCaptain said:

The problem is that nothing else runs OSX which is a benefit in its own right.

I mean spec for spec I'd get the New Blade or an MSI or something, but MacBooks are still awesome machines for content creators.

I'd love to get one purely for photo and video work, forgetting the specs they're just so well optimized for those applications.

I prefer not to factor in anything that's too subjective. To you, OSX may be a benefit -But I absolutely hate it, and would never want it on any of my machines.

 

How exactly are Macs good for content creators?

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Why are you just ripping on Apple here? 

Where is the headphone jack on the Surface Book? Oh yeh...

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In the top right of the f**king screen! That's fine I guess right?

 

I get that the clipboard has to detach, but why not at least at the bottom?

 

 

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4 hours ago, Dash Lambda said:

In a vacuum, yeah.

Problem is, you actually have to compare them to something, and when you do that, their benefits are quite sparse.

Compare it to the Dell XPS

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19 minutes ago, wrathoftheturkey said:

I've heard many a writer rave about Pages, but that's about it. Writers seem to really like it.

 

Video editing? Biatch please

Compared to an ultra light portable machine of the same price running windows (ex. Dell XPS) the mac destroys it

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25 minutes ago, daniielrp said:

Why are you just ripping on Apple here? 

Where is the headphone jack on the Surface Book? Oh yeh...

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In the top right of the f**king screen! That's fine I guess right?

 

I get that the clipboard has to detach, but why not at least at the bottom?

 

 

They have a reason for that and see why they made the trade off. But adding one on the body I am sure would not have been hard at all. If you can hot swap GPUs you can surely change or output to both audio jacks

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22 minutes ago, Clanscorpia said:

Compared to an ultra light portable machine of the same price running windows (ex. Dell XPS) the mac destroys it

 

23 minutes ago, Clanscorpia said:

Compare it to the Dell XPS

I don't want a flame ware but you have to consider when the products were released. But having an AMD 455 or 460 is pathetic when you can get something for the same price with a desktop 1080 with 8gbs of GDDR5X rather then 2gbs of GDDR5. Also the screen on the new macbooks aren't even 4K.

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4 hours ago, ShadowCaptain said:

 

 

the problem is that nothing else runs OSX which is a benefit in its own right

 

I mean spec for spec id get the new blade or an MSI or something, but Macbooks are still awesome machine for content creators

 

id love to get one purely for photo and vidoe work, forgetting the specs they just so well optimised for those applications 

Again I disagree. There is nothing that exists in the OSX world that isn't trumped by the Windows world, including far more options for "content creators".

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2 hours ago, daniielrp said:

Why are you just ripping on Apple here? 

Where is the headphone jack on the Surface Book? Oh yeh...

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In the top right of the f**king screen! That's fine I guess right?

 

I get that the clipboard has to detach, but why not at least at the bottom?

 

 

Microsoft was too busy celebrating the fact that they could use the hinge design on the Surface Book. They developed a working prototype of the hinge in 2007, they were probably shit faced when someone remembered the headphone jack.

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My wife's MacBook has the headphone jack on the top right side, rarely does it ever interfere with the (Bluetooth)mouse, and even with Apple Earpods the Mac has to be out of reach before the cord becomes an issue(Earpods have like a 1m long cable, that's long and fairly standard, and longer than my arms).

 

My 2007 MacBook on the other hand has the headphone jack(s) in the "optimal" space, and it frequently gets tangled with the charger cord. I like the new designs better.

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So much Apple hate on this forum. I'm not crazy about the new Macbook lineup but at least they tried something different. Most people who hate on Macbooks here probably never even used them. Even on inferior hardware they tend to perform as good if not better than their PC counterparts. 

 

Another thing, the "Pro" title is marketing bullshit. 

13-in MBP --> Made for students/people on the go

15-in MBP --> Made for mobile content creators/people with too much money who need to show they can afford the best

 

A 13-in MBP with dual core i5 and 8GB is more than enough horsepower for 90% of the population. Sure it isn't great value, but some people enjoy the feeling of using a high-quality product. Go pick up a Macbook at the Apple store and you'll understand the feeling. Apple capitalizes on that feeling. 

 

When I worked a Best Buy, we always said that the easiest way to upsell to a Macbook (or iPad) was to put the product in the customers hands. Trust me it works.

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3 hours ago, Talamakara said:

Again I disagree. There is nothing that exists in the OSX world that isn't trumped by the Windows world, including far more options for "content creators".

Find me a windows laptop with a better trackpad and better build quality. 

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On 10/28/2016 at 11:24 AM, SamStrecker said:

I was watching an over view of the new mac pro and I just saw the headphone jack is all the way at the top of the laptop on the right side. WHY! Being in the middle or closer to the user is idea and almost everyone is right handed to the wires are going to get in the way. Little things that ruin an already horribly ruined product.

Then dont buy it.

There must be a reason why they did it that way.

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4 hours ago, Canada EH said:

Then dont buy it.

There must be a reason why they did it that way.

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8 hours ago, Daveeede said:

Find me a windows laptop with a better trackpad and better build quality. 

I will say their trackpads are some of the best. Having one with two click buttons is stupid now days. As for build quality they are sorta falling behind. The whole unibody aluminum thing has already been done now by many others. Razer laptops look identical but black and green

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8 hours ago, Daveeede said:

Find me a windows laptop with a better trackpad and better build quality. 

The trackpads are hard to beat, but in terms of build quality, I'd rather have a Thinkpad.

No, they're not built quite as solid-feeling as Macbooks, but they're not too far off and they're much, much more resilient. It's easier to build a block of glass and aluminum than it is to build something you can drop.

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15 hours ago, SamStrecker said:

Pure idiots 

Ok let's be serious for a moment

 

Do you really think they care? those "pure idiots" are making sky rocket sales no matter what they do wrong and even if there specs can't compare to a windows laptop of the similar price there design,os,unique style,trackpad,build quality,customer service/support beats even the top notch windows laptop companies

 

Hell look at the iphone 7, it does not even HAVE a headphone jack and still hits more sales than the iphone 6...

 

The point is no matter what they do wrong or how much it makes you cringe, they're profit no matter what

 

I know its your opinion and you want to share it but in they're eyes calling them "pure idiots" means $$$$$$$$$$

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The reason I'm picking the dell XPS 13/15 is because it's a comparable machine in terms of the market it's aimed at (well half of it's target audience) and they are comparable spec and price wise.

 

18 hours ago, 2Buck said:

It has no USBA, it has no ethernet, it has no card reader, it has no hdmi, all of which are standard features. To anyone defending or buying this laptop, have fun with your pile of expensive adapters! How can this product be labeled "pro" when it lacks many basic features???

So what you are saying is you don't want innovation and for ports to move forward...right (this is like the argument between PS2, VGA, micro/mini USB ect. being replaced by USB for mouse/KB, DVI, type-c ect.).

 

The Type-c port has the functionality of USB, Thunderport, display port, charging, it can replace all the ports including Ethernet and more importantly (this isn't just for you), the Dell XPS 13 (the window's laptop EVERYONE praises for) doesn't have Ethernet, HDMI and it only has 1 USB type-c (that's what you sound like) so why are you bashing the Macbook now?

The only real thing the macbook pro doesn't have is an SD card slot versus the Dell XPS 13 but it's not the end of the world to carry a USB type-c card reader is it?

 

18 hours ago, SamStrecker said:

What a dual core?! I assumed everything was base quad now. What a load of garbage 

And the dell XPS 13 doesn't have a quad so what are you on? "high performance" (on dell's website) my ass :P 

The Macbook pro 15 on the other hand does have a quad as base like the dell XPS 15 so...once again, invalid :) 

 

p.s. I'm not an apple fanboy, just pointing out the flawed opinions you guys have :) 

Looking at my signature are we now? Well too bad there's nothing here...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What? As I said, there seriously is nothing here :) 

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Just now, keNNySOC said:

So? I don't have perfect grammar and I'll admit, I'm not perfect, but I'm surely better than most people.

... Okay.

I shouldn't have pointed that out in the first place, since it's irrelevant to this discussion and I don't really like grilling people, it's just... Difficult to focus on what I'm reading when I see errors like that.

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