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Really Apple!

BuckGup
By BuckGup
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I was watching an over view of the new mac pro and I just saw the headphone jack is all the way at the top of the laptop on the right side. WHY! Being in the middle or closer to the user is idea and almost everyone is right handed to the wires are going to get in the way. Little things that ruin an already horribly ruined product.

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16 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

I was watching an over view of the new mac pro and I just saw the headphone jack is all the way at the top of the laptop on the right side. WHY! Being in the middle or closer to the user is idea and almost everyone is right handed to the wires are going to get in the way. Little things that ruin an already horribly ruined product.

 

What? being at the back is better so it doesnt get in the way when using a mouse

 

honestly im not sure how this is even an issue

 

the headphone jack  and all IO has ALWAYS towards the back on macbooks 

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29 minutes ago, ShadowCaptain said:

 

What? being at the back is better so it doesnt get in the way when using a mouse

 

honestly im not sure how this is even an issue

 

the headphone jack  and all IO has ALWAYS towards the back on macbooks 

The headphone jack has always been in the middle on the left. In the back on the right makes no sense at all. 

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15 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

The headphone jack has always been in the middle on the left. In the back on the right makes no sense at all. 

well it was more towards the back, why would anyone want it in the middle

I dont see a single issue with it being where it is on the new one

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30 minutes ago, ShadowCaptain said:

well it was more towards the back, why would anyone want it in the middle

I dont see a single issue with it being where it is on the new one

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4 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

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That drawing is flawed as hell. For one, you're implying that the wire gets shorter because it's there. Two, most headphones generally don't get in the way unless you use some awkward ass positioning.

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2 minutes ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

That drawing is flawed as hell. For one, you're implying that the wire gets shorter because it's there. Two, most headphones generally don't get in the way unless you use some awkward ass positioning.

Ok it isn't the best drawing but the longer travel distance makes you not able to move your head as much. It also gets in the way if you use a mouse. Not left handed people would hate the jack on the left in the middle but the ratio of right handed to left handed is like 300,000:1

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Just now, SamStrecker said:

Ok it isn't the best drawing but the longer travel distance makes you not able to move your head as much. It also gets in the way if you use a mouse. Not left handed people would hate the jack on the left in the middle but the ratio of right handed to left handed is like 300,000:1

I'll put a bit of context into what I have: most people have their mice set up on the right hand side of their laptop or PC. For all intents and purposes, the way my PC is set up (basically like how the "longer" drawing was) makes it kinda obtrusive to use my mouse.

Check out my guide on how to scan cover art here!

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If you're buying a MacBook, I am sure you can afford enthusiast quality Bluetooth/wireless headphones... just sayin 

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2 hours ago, RooR said:

If you're buying a MacBook, I am sure you can afford enthusiast quality Bluetooth/wireless headphones... just sayin 

Enthusiast and wireless don't go together. 

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19 hours ago, SamStrecker said:

Enthusiast and wireless don't go together. 

what  the hell are you even talking about

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3 minutes ago, ShadowCaptain said:

What the hell are you even talking about?

That wireless has inherently inferior audio quality to wired. That's not even a point of debate, it's just true.

 

As for the positioning of the jack, the problem I see is that the further the cable has to go the more likely it is to get in the way. I'd personally prefer they just put it in the front, that would make perfect sense.

 

That is of course not to mention that the cable on nearly every pair of headphones in existence is on the left side, which means the cable has to not only travel farther but cross in front of you.

"Do as I say, not as I do."

-Because you actually care if it makes sense.

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7 minutes ago, ShadowCaptain said:

what  the hell are you even talking about

An audiophile is not going to use bluetooth headphones. Everything is wired. We don't have the technology yet to achieve the same amount of fidelity and latency as a wired connection does. We are getting better and are pretty close but an audiophile who can apparently hear a larger spectrum then you, isn't going to use wireless. 

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1 minute ago, Dash Lambda said:

That wireless has inherently inferior audio quality to wired. That's not even a point of debate, it's just true.

 

As for the positioning of the jack, the problem I see is that the further the cable has to go the more likely it is to get in the way. I'd personally prefer they just put it in the front, that would make perfect sense.

 

That is of course not to mention that the cable on nearly every pair of headphones in existence is on the left side, which means the cable has to not only travel farther but cross in front of you.

Thank you. This is what I mean. It crosses over your body and interferes with the keyboard and such. I don't know what the front though. I sometimes have my laptop on my lap with my legs angled up and use the bottom of the laptop to wedge it against my stomach so it doesn't move. Can't really do this with small laptops and technically you aren't suppose to use a laptop on your legs.

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13 minutes ago, Dash Lambda said:

That wireless has inherently inferior audio quality to wired. That's not even a point of debate, it's just true.

 

I am not debating that!

12 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

An audiophile is not going to use bluetooth headphones. Everything is wired. We don't have 

An audiophile and tech enthusiast is not the same thing

 

plus if i was at work or gaming on the go i might use the some QC35s or something for convenience, and not carry my super expensive audiophile cans around everywhere etc

 

only an elitest snob would think that they cannot use some slightly worse than perfect headphones for convenience sake when using their machine

 

you still CAN connect your audiophile headphones, the port is only like 2" further back 

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1 minute ago, ShadowCaptain said:

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I wouldn't say I'm an elitest snob (though that's exactly what a snob would say), but I do care about audio quality and I don't mind cables. I just wish people wouldn't be doing their damndest to make me actually mind cables.

"Do as I say, not as I do."

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8 minutes ago, Dash Lambda said:

I wouldn't say I'm an elitest snob (though that's exactly what a snob would say), but I do care about audio quality and I don't mind cables. I just wish people wouldn't be doing their damndest to make me actually mind cables.

Im not saying there is anything wrong with cables, im just saying that it HAS a headphone port, or you could get a USB C AMP/DAC to use anyway

its a few inches difference compared to last model, hardly matters to like 99% of people, and for many people there are decent wireless options even if they are not their main cans

im getting some bluetooth overears just for convenience, they wont replace my main headphones but thats okay, just like my gaming laptop doesnt replace my desktop either, its just there because using my desktop on a train is a bit hard

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Apple products are like owning a lowered sports car in Canada. They look great sitting in your garage but are completely useless 8 months out of the year. Where if you have an SUV you can use it all year long and for a lot more things.

 

 

 

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25 minutes ago, Talamakara said:

Apple products are like owning a lowered sports car in Canada. They look great sitting in your garage but are completely useless 8 months out of the year. Where if you have an SUV you can use it all year long and for a lot more things.

not really aside from gaming macbooks are pretty awesome machines

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8 minutes ago, ShadowCaptain said:

not really aside from gaming macbooks are pretty awesome machines

I completely disagree. There is nothing out there that a macbook can do better than a windows based laptop of the SAME price range.

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1 hour ago, ShadowCaptain said:

 

I am not debating that!

An audiophile and tech enthusiast is not the same thing

 

plus if i was at work or gaming on the go i might use the some QC35s or something for convenience, and not carry my super expensive audiophile cans around everywhere etc

 

only an elitest snob would think that they cannot use some slightly worse than perfect headphones for convenience sake when using their machine

 

you still CAN connect your audiophile headphones, the port is only like 2" further back 

I took the meaning of enthusiast as an audio enthusiast. Enthusiast doesn't mean PCs only it can be a rabbit enthusiast 

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1 hour ago, ShadowCaptain said:

Not really. Aside from gaming, MacBooks are pretty awesome machines.

In a vacuum, yeah.

Problem is, you actually have to compare them to something, and when you do that, their benefits are quite sparse.

"Do as I say, not as I do."

-Because you actually care if it makes sense.

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This product is a failure in so many ways. The 13 inch for like 2000$ only has a dual core CPU and integrated graphics. It has no USBA, it has no ethernet, it has no card reader, it has no hdmi, all of which are standard features. To anyone defending or buying this laptop, have fun with your pile of expensive adapters! How can this product be labeled "pro" when it lacks many basic features???

 

What a shame, I actually really love Macbook Pros, looks like Apple managed to ruin them too.

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2 minutes ago, 2Buck said:

This product is a failure in so many ways. The 13 inch for like 2000$ only has a dual core CPU and integrated graphics. It has no USBA, it no ethernet, it has no card reader, it has no hdmi, all of which are standard features. To anyone defending or buying this laptop, have fun with your pile of expensive adapters! How can this product be labeled "pro" when it lacks many basic features???

 

What a shame, I actually really love Macbook Pros, looks like Apple managed to ruin them too.

What a dual core?! I assumed everything was base quad now. What a load of garbage 

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1 minute ago, SamStrecker said:

What a dual core?! I assumed everything was base quad now. What a load of garbage 

Yeah, I figured that too! My jaw dropped when I saw Linus and Luke going over the specs on the WAN show. Oh, and it only has 8GB of RAM which is just pathetic for the price.

 

I mean, I can understand laptops for 1000$ or less having dual cores, but a "pro" laptop for 2000$ having a dual core is just plain idiotic.

i7 2600k @ 5GHz 1.49v - EVGA GTX 1070 ACX 3.0 - 16GB DDR3 2000MHz Corsair Vengence

Asus p8z77-v lk - 480GB Samsung 870 EVO w/ W10 LTSC - 2x1TB HDD storage - 240GB SATA SSD w/ W7 - EVGA 650w 80+G G2

3x 1080p 60hz Viewsonic LCDs, 1 glorious Dell CRT running at anywhere from 60hz to 120hz

Model M w/ Soarer's adapter - Logitch g502 - Audio-Techinca M20X - Cambridge SoundWorks speakers w/ woofer

 

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