Posted October 18, 2016 Consider you are looking to buy a low end system and not from a builders point of view. This should still play most games at 720p on low settings. APU - A6-5200 SSD - 120GB RAM - 8GB OS - Windows 10 Home 64Bit Warranty - 3 Year Accidental Damage Total Cost - $460 Consider that a system from Dell - with no GPU - with a similar build in over $800 Thoughts and Opinions Welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 18, 2016 4 minutes ago, pistol22cal said: Consider you are looking to buy a low end system and not from a builders point of view. This should still play most games a 720p on low settings. CPU - A6-5200 SSD - 120GB RAM - 8GB GPU - R5 230 OS - Windows 10 Home 64Bit Warranty - 3 Year Accidental Damage Total Cost - $500 Consider that a system from Dell - with no GPU - with a similar build in over $800 Thoughts and Opinions Welcome! at that point you might as well buy a console Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 18, 2016 no gpu? what games are you going to play? G502 Lightspeed Review PC: Spoiler i5-6400 GIGABYTE GA-H110M-DS2 CORSAIR VENGEANCE LPX 2X4 DDR4-2666MHz ASUS ROG STRIX-GTX 1060-O6G SEAGATE 2TB HDD FUJISTU F300 240GB SSD CORSAIR CX750M Laptop: Spoiler Acer Nitro 5 i5 8300h GTX 1050 4Gb 12 Gb RAM 128 Gb SSD 1 Tb HDD Peripherals: Spoiler Keyboard: Logitech G310 Atlas Dawn (Romer G) Rexus Legionare MX5.1 (Content Browns) Mice: Logitech G602 Logitech G502 Lightspeed Steelseries Rival 105 Logitech M330 Headset: Logitech G430 Cooler Master MH 752 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 18, 2016 Author 57 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said: at that point you might as well buy a console I have revised the post 56 minutes ago, Oswin said: no gpu? what games are you going to play? APU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 18, 2016 1 minute ago, pistol22cal said: APU yes i asked about the GPU and what games are you going to play? i wont say its a gaming build without a dedicated GPU G502 Lightspeed Review PC: Spoiler i5-6400 GIGABYTE GA-H110M-DS2 CORSAIR VENGEANCE LPX 2X4 DDR4-2666MHz ASUS ROG STRIX-GTX 1060-O6G SEAGATE 2TB HDD FUJISTU F300 240GB SSD CORSAIR CX750M Laptop: Spoiler Acer Nitro 5 i5 8300h GTX 1050 4Gb 12 Gb RAM 128 Gb SSD 1 Tb HDD Peripherals: Spoiler Keyboard: Logitech G310 Atlas Dawn (Romer G) Rexus Legionare MX5.1 (Content Browns) Mice: Logitech G602 Logitech G502 Lightspeed Steelseries Rival 105 Logitech M330 Headset: Logitech G430 Cooler Master MH 752 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 18, 2016 3 minutes ago, pistol22cal said: I have revised the post if you are buying a prebuilt gaming pc at that price you are better off buying a console because you will get better performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 18, 2016 Author 4 minutes ago, Oswin said: yes i asked about the GPU and what games are you going to play? i wont say its a gaming build without a dedicated GPU I agree totally! The A6-5200 can handle a lot of games on low settings at 720p at approx. 25 FPS -- It is not ideal but playable non the less. GTA V - Overwatch - BF4 - LoL - Rift - WoW - Minecraft - .....the list goes on. Just a basic computer for a kid or someone on a tight budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 18, 2016 720p on low settings... you can build a nice sweet rig for 500 that can run 1080 Spoiler CPU i7 4790K 4,7Ghz Cooling:Corsair H100iGTX+Noctua NF-F12PWM GPU: EVGA 1080ti SC+ ACX2.0+ RAM:16GB DDR3 1866mhz Crucial Balistics Tactical Tracer Mobo:ASUS Z97-AR PSU:EVGA 750W G2 Supernova Case:Fractal Meshify C Storage:500GB Samsung 850 evo, 900GB Toshiba Game Storage SSD, 2TB Data HDD i7 4790k Devils Canyon OC @4,6Ghz,Cooler Corsair h100i GTX, GPU EVGA 980Ti SC+ ACX 2.0+ @ stoc http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/278610-display-technology-faqmythbuster/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 18, 2016 1 minute ago, pistol22cal said: I agree totally! The A6-5200 can handle a lot of games on low settings at 720p at approx. 25 FPS -- It is not ideal but playable non the less. GTA V - Overwatch - BF4 - LoL - Rift - WoW - Minecraft - .....the list goes on. i wont say 720p 25 fps is playable for fps games plus you are indeed better off buying a console or if you have the money just make a pc G502 Lightspeed Review PC: Spoiler i5-6400 GIGABYTE GA-H110M-DS2 CORSAIR VENGEANCE LPX 2X4 DDR4-2666MHz ASUS ROG STRIX-GTX 1060-O6G SEAGATE 2TB HDD FUJISTU F300 240GB SSD CORSAIR CX750M Laptop: Spoiler Acer Nitro 5 i5 8300h GTX 1050 4Gb 12 Gb RAM 128 Gb SSD 1 Tb HDD Peripherals: Spoiler Keyboard: Logitech G310 Atlas Dawn (Romer G) Rexus Legionare MX5.1 (Content Browns) Mice: Logitech G602 Logitech G502 Lightspeed Steelseries Rival 105 Logitech M330 Headset: Logitech G430 Cooler Master MH 752 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 18, 2016 To compair your prices... I am buying/getting the following computer @ 80 euro's: AMD A85600k mATX motherboard with enough SATA ports and ram slots. 8 gb DDR3 "a" power supply "a" case LG dvd writer I'd only have to add an SSD, and that would be another 90 euro or so? And it performs probably better. My advice: look at used components, when they are this much outdated. APU comparison: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-A8-5600K-APU-vs-AMD-A6-5200-APU/m1766vsm4574 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 18, 2016 14 minutes ago, pistol22cal said: This should still play most games at 720p on low settings. APU - A6-5200 SSD - 120GB RAM - 8GB OS - Windows 10 Home 64Bit Warranty - 3 Year Accidental Damage Total Cost - $460 Consider that a system from Dell - with no GPU - with a similar build in over $800 With a prebuilt? Sure. APUs are okay, but you're not going to get nearly as far with an integrated GPU as you would with a decent mid-ranged graphics card in AAA games, even if you overclock the crap out of your RAM and CPU. I'd consider buying a graphics card like an RX 460 (or a 1050 Ti if it actually comes out) somewhere down the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 18, 2016 Author 51 minutes ago, Bl00dgod said: 720p on low settings... you can build a nice sweet rig for 500 that can run 1080 I agree but thats $600 and self built --- This is from an OEM stand point as a consumer, with full support and warranty from the OEM. For only $460. 49 minutes ago, Kavawuvi said: Over a prebuilt? Sure. APUs are okay, but you're not going to get nearly as far with an integrated GPU as you would with a decent mid-ranged graphics card in AAA games, even if you overclock the crap out of your RAM and CPU. I'd consider buying a graphics card like an RX 460 somewhere down the line. Totally agree but as someone looking to get a toe in the door, and having to wait a few months for a GPU, would you consider this a good value for the money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 18, 2016 1 minute ago, pistol22cal said: I agree but thats $600 and self built --- This is from an OEM stand point as a consumer, with full support and warranty from the OEM. For only $460. how much is your budget, and you dont like building pcs? ask a friend that knows about them to help you G502 Lightspeed Review PC: Spoiler i5-6400 GIGABYTE GA-H110M-DS2 CORSAIR VENGEANCE LPX 2X4 DDR4-2666MHz ASUS ROG STRIX-GTX 1060-O6G SEAGATE 2TB HDD FUJISTU F300 240GB SSD CORSAIR CX750M Laptop: Spoiler Acer Nitro 5 i5 8300h GTX 1050 4Gb 12 Gb RAM 128 Gb SSD 1 Tb HDD Peripherals: Spoiler Keyboard: Logitech G310 Atlas Dawn (Romer G) Rexus Legionare MX5.1 (Content Browns) Mice: Logitech G602 Logitech G502 Lightspeed Steelseries Rival 105 Logitech M330 Headset: Logitech G430 Cooler Master MH 752 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 18, 2016 GPU part of the APU comparison: http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Radeon-HD-7560D-vs-AMD-Radeon-HD-8400-R3/m8826vsm11160 To the right is the GPU part of your desired APU... I would not get that APU... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 18, 2016 Author 1 minute ago, Oswin said: how much is your budget, and you dont like building pcs? ask a friend that knows about them to help you No, not it at all. Just doing a little research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 18, 2016 1 minute ago, pistol22cal said: No, not it at all. Just doing a little research. oh........... then i say its not a good pc to be gaming with G502 Lightspeed Review PC: Spoiler i5-6400 GIGABYTE GA-H110M-DS2 CORSAIR VENGEANCE LPX 2X4 DDR4-2666MHz ASUS ROG STRIX-GTX 1060-O6G SEAGATE 2TB HDD FUJISTU F300 240GB SSD CORSAIR CX750M Laptop: Spoiler Acer Nitro 5 i5 8300h GTX 1050 4Gb 12 Gb RAM 128 Gb SSD 1 Tb HDD Peripherals: Spoiler Keyboard: Logitech G310 Atlas Dawn (Romer G) Rexus Legionare MX5.1 (Content Browns) Mice: Logitech G602 Logitech G502 Lightspeed Steelseries Rival 105 Logitech M330 Headset: Logitech G430 Cooler Master MH 752 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 18, 2016 Author 1 minute ago, Dutch-stoner said: GPU part of the APU comparison: http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Radeon-HD-7560D-vs-AMD-Radeon-HD-8400-R3/m8826vsm11160 To the right is the GPU part of your desired APU... I would not get that APU... Thank you however I am going for the absolute cheapest possible build that can still play most MMO's, Steam Games, GTA V, and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 18, 2016 This will perform waay better: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($99.89 @ OutletPC) Motherboard: ASRock 970M PRO3 Micro ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard ($37.24 @ Newegg) Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($66.88 @ OutletPC) Storage: Hitachi 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($39.00 @ Amazon) Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 460 768MB Video Card ($123.99 @ Amazon) Case: Xion XON-310_BK MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($21.98 @ Newegg) Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($33.49 @ SuperBiiz) Total: $422.47Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when availableGenerated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-18 08:44 EDT-0400 Athlon X2 for only 27.31$ Best part lists at different price points Windows 1.01 running natively on an Eee PC My rig: Spoiler Celeronator (new main rig) CPU: Intel Celeron (duh) N2840 2.16GHz Dual Core RAM: 4GB DDR3 1333MHz HDD: Seagate 500GB GPU: Intel HD Graphics 3000 Series Spoiler Frankenhertz (ex main rig) CPU: Intel Atom N2600 1.6GHz Dual Core RAM: 1GB DDR3-800 HDD: HGST 320GB GPU: Intel Graphics Media Accelerator (GMA) 3600 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 18, 2016 Erhm... Read my posts again... I am compairing your brand new system of 460 dollars, to my used computer parts, which I only payed 80 euro for... And performance is a big difference to. So if you want to get the absolute cheapest possible build, buy used! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 18, 2016 Author 1 minute ago, Djole123 said: This will perform waay better: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($99.89 @ OutletPC) Motherboard: ASRock 970M PRO3 Micro ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard ($37.24 @ Newegg) Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($66.88 @ OutletPC) Storage: Hitachi 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($39.00 @ Amazon) Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 460 768MB Video Card ($123.99 @ Amazon) Case: Xion XON-310_BK MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($21.98 @ Newegg) Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($33.49 @ SuperBiiz) Total: $422.47Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when availableGenerated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-18 08:44 EDT-0400 Now add a 3 year accidental damage warranty to cover all those parts and Windows OS --- It's going to be about $650 -- Well outside the price of the original listed system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 18, 2016 Just now, pistol22cal said: Totally agree but as someone looking to get a toe in the door, and having to wait a few months for a GPU, would you consider this a good value for the money? It's okay for an OEM, but I don't expect much from them, anyway, as a lot of times, they'll try selling a PC with an R7 240 or GT 610 and call it a "gaming PC". 5 minutes ago, pistol22cal said: I agree but thats $600 and self built --- This is from an OEM stand point as a consumer, with full support and warranty from the OEM. For only $460. Support should NOT be a selling point, because it's often going to make you never want to buy a PC from them ever again if you end up having to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 18, 2016 Author 1 minute ago, Dutch-stoner said: Erhm... Read my posts again... I am compairing your brand new system of 460 dollars, to my used computer parts, which I only payed 80 euro for... And performance is a big difference to. So if you want to get the absolute cheapest possible build, buy used! Can't warranty used parts. Consumers would not buy a used built pc.....and would you warranty that build for 3 years and cover any damage for 80 euro's and included windows 10 64bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 18, 2016 this will do better for the same price. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($110.99 @ SuperBiiz) Motherboard: ASRock H110M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($32.94 @ Newegg) Memory: Avexir Budget Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($35.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.77 @ OutletPC) Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 460 2GB Red Dragon Video Card ($99.98 @ Newegg) Case: Thermaltake Versa H23 ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($85.60 @ OutletPC) Total: $476.25Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when availableGenerated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-18 08:48 EDT-0400 CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 18, 2016 1 minute ago, Kavawuvi said: Support should NOT be a selling point, because it's often going to make you never want to buy a PC from them ever again if you end up having to use it. Ain't this the truth lol... Dell and their hold music ZzZz CPU: Intel i7 7700K | GPU: ROG Strix GTX 1080Ti | PSU: Seasonic X-1250 (faulty) | Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB 3200Mhz 16GB | OS Drive: Western Digital Black NVMe 250GB | Game Drive(s): Samsung 970 Evo 500GB, Hitachi 7K3000 3TB 3.5" | Motherboard: Gigabyte Z270x Gaming 7 | Case: Fractal Design Define S (No Window and modded front Panel) | Monitor(s): Dell S2716DG G-Sync 144Hz, Acer R240HY 60Hz (Dead) | Keyboard: G.SKILL RIPJAWS KM780R MX | Mouse: Steelseries Sensei 310 (Striked out parts are sold or dead, awaiting zen2 parts) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 18, 2016 Author 2 minutes ago, Kavawuvi said: It's okay for an OEM, but I don't expect much from them, anyway, as a lot of times, they'll try selling a PC with an R7 240 or GT 610 and call it a "gaming PC". Support should NOT be a selling point, because it's often going to make you never want to buy a PC from them ever again if you end up having to use it. Agree'd but your average consumer likes seeing that warranty, gives them comfort and piece of mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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