Budget pc build

[Deadeye91]

Looking at building a new pc for my self. Doesn't have to play every game on max settings. Also needs to be all in Canadian $$. Trying to keep the price around console prices. Any help picking out parts would be appreciated.

[Moderateshadow]

for console prices id suggest looking for used. you can get some pretty decent i3 with 2gb gfx cards at about that price. all depends on your area tho

[Nena Trinity]

Athlon X4 845 with a RX 460 is kinda possible!

 

Edit: (less than 550CA)

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/

[Deadeye91]

Hamilton Ontario Area

[Zyndo]

with how much CAD sucks compared to USD right now, what you're looking for is pretty much impossible. You either need to buy used parts (and get some amazing deals on them) or you need to buy a console. That's what they're there for.

[Deadeye91]

400-500$

[Zyndo]

6 minutes ago, Nena360 said:

Athlon X4 845 with a RX 460 is kinda possible!

 

Edit:

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/gXTwYr

that is USD... add 30% to that pricetag

[Deadeye91]

that's not too bad

 

[Zyndo]

5 minutes ago, Deadeye91 said:

that's not too bad

 

that was in USD. this is the kind of machine you're looking at for 400 CAD... and this doesn't include an OS or GPU (you would be using the iGPU inside your CPU. You will be able to run MOBA's and low end shooters well enough, but anything else is going to have to be run on minimum graphical settings in order to work)

 

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/3d32xY

[Nena Trinity]

14 minutes ago, Zyndo said:

that is USD... add 30% to that pricetag

I pressed CAD did the page malfunction? o3o

[gtx1060=value]

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/GsK8QV

400 dollars canadian, the amd cpu has a very good cooler included that can overclock and it has amd r7 graphics on die. so it can run games at medium-high settings at a pretty good speed

[Deadeye91]

thanks. I started looking at the AMD Cpu's. and that gives me some room to get a bit of a better mother board. I want to be ab,e to upgrade in the future. like buy something new each pay

[Zyndo]

1 minute ago, Deadeye91 said:

thanks. I started looking at the AMD Cpu's. and that gives me some room to get a bit of a better mother board. I want to be ab,e to upgrade in the future. like buy something new each pay

then you should absolutely not get AMD. old stuff. outdated architecture.

 

You should just wait a few paycheques and go skylake. or Zen if its out whenever you buy.

[hoodyracoon]

take a look at my ebay build guide, right around your price range but in us prices, but for the most part sellers ship to Canada so it should work fine 

 

 

[gtx1060=value]

18 minutes ago, Deadeye91 said:

thanks. I started looking at the AMD Cpu's. and that gives me some room to get a bit of a better mother board. I want to be ab,e to upgrade in the future. like buy something new each pay

well, if you want to do it like that, why not just get a full blown gaming computer for around 1000 cad, you don't have to buy the parts all at once. if you see one thats on sale for a decent price, buy it and save the big components for boxing day. Personally, i'd just wait till boxing day because you'd get about 30 percent more value out of your money (based on sales)

[antondan]

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Gq7PJV

I normally wouldn't recommend buying dirt cheap PCs but here's a budget build. I couldn't find a decent/recent amd cpu under 120 canadian dollars so I went with intel. 
The cpu is just an intel Pentium but not only is it clocked at 3.5Ghz it was also released one year ago, thus it's Skylake processor. A 4GB gpu that should be able to run most games in decent fps paired with that cpu.  A 1TB drive that should be enough (I didn't pick a smaller capacity drive simply because I don't think 500gigs are much).  8GBs of DDR4 ram @2133 Mhz that should help with any cpu bottlenecks (which are unavoidable unless the budget increases). The PSU has some extra wattage in case you want to upgrade your graphics card in the future. The motherboard supports USB3 and that's about it. 
So you basically have all the basic features.  

Any suggestions are welcome

[hoodyracoon]

6 minutes ago, antondan said:

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Gq7PJV

I normally wouldn't recommend buying dirt cheap PCs but here's a budget build. I couldn't find a decent/recent amd cpu under 120 canadian dollars so I went with intel. 
The cpu is just an intel Pentium but not only is it clocked at 3.5Ghz it was also released one year ago, thus it's Skylake processor. A 4GB gpu that should be able to run most games in decent fps paired with that cpu.  A 1TB drive that should be enough (I didn't pick a smaller capacity drive simply because I don't think 500gigs are much).  8GBs of DDR4 ram @2133 Mhz that should help with any cpu bottlenecks (which are unavoidable unless the budget increases). The PSU has some extra wattage in case you want to upgrade your graphics card in the future. The motherboard supports USB3 and that's about it. 
So you basically have all the basic features.  

Any suggestions are welcome

that dual core isn't really the best option, a lot of games don't play well with lower the 4 cores(or threads) now, as much it sucks that Pentium is a best a hold over, and will bottleneck quite a few games. 3-4 years back it would have been fine.

[antondan]

4 minutes ago, hoodyracoon said:

that dual core isn't really the best option, a lot of games don't play well with lower the 4 cores(or threads) now, as much it sucks that Pentium is a best a hold over, and will bottleneck quite a few games. 3-4 years back it would have been fine.

You are correct and that is exactly why I don't recommend such cheap builds. However I wouldn't like recommending an old architecture just because it's cheap and that is the reason I picked the pentium over an AMD A9.  

[Brooksie359]

18 minutes ago, antondan said:

You are correct and that is exactly why I don't recommend such cheap builds. However I wouldn't like recommending an old architecture just because it's cheap and that is the reason I picked the pentium over an AMD A9.  

yeah at least when going with a pentium there is an upgrade path. if you go with an amd build there is no upgrade path and a computer with no upgrade path might as well be a console at that point. 

[stconquest]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($144.98 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($63.08 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($41.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Seagate Pipeline HD 320GB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($33.50 @ Vuugo)  <<can't you get your hands on some old drive?
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 950 2GB Video Card  ($169.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: BitFenix Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case  ($24.11 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: EVGA 400W ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ Amazon Canada)  <<is considered a fire hazard by many people here
Total: $507.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-21 23:11 EDT-0400

 

I would rather recommend this below.  Save up for a good GPU (RX 470?):

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($254.98 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($63.08 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($41.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.75 @ Vuugo)
Case: BitFenix Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case  ($24.11 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($58.17 @ DirectCanada)
Case Fan: Thermaltake CL-F005-PL12BL-A 41.0 CFM  120mm Fan  ($1.25 @ Amazon Canada)
Case Fan: Thermaltake CL-F005-PL12BL-A 41.0 CFM  120mm Fan  ($1.25 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $504.58
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-21 23:17 EDT-0400

[antondan]

6 minutes ago, stconquest said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($144.98 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($63.08 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($41.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Seagate Pipeline HD 320GB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($33.50 @ Vuugo)  <<can't you get your hands on some old drive?
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 950 2GB Video Card  ($169.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: BitFenix Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case  ($24.11 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: EVGA 400W ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ Amazon Canada)  <<is considered a fire hazard by many people here
Total: $507.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-21 23:11 EDT-0400

If he manages to get his hands on an old hard drive he could completely ditch the HDD and buy a better PSU, not only that but there would be money left for that sweet upgrade to the i3 6100. 

[stconquest]

4 minutes ago, antondan said:

If he manages to get his hands on an old hard drive he could completely ditch the HDD and buy a better PSU, not only that but there would be money left for that sweet upgrade to the i3 6100. 

I would leave out the GPU entirely and run off of the iGPU.  Save up for a good GPU, RX 470 or GTX 1060.

[antondan]

Just now, stconquest said:

I would leave out the GPU entirely and run off of the iGPU.  Save for a good GPU, RX 470 or GTX 1060.

Indeed with that budget I think that's the best option unless he wants to start playing AAA games soon.  I could see no faults in the build you linked too, in fact it will be quite the beast with the addition of an RX 470/GTX 1060.  The semi modular PSU is going to help with the poor cable management options the case provides too.  There's also room for a ram upgrade in the future. 

[hoodyracoon]

1 hour ago, antondan said:

Indeed with that budget I think that's the best option unless he wants to start playing AAA games soon.  I could see no faults in the build you linked too, in fact it will be quite the beast with the addition of an RX 470/GTX 1060.  The semi modular PSU is going to help with the poor cable management options the case provides too.  There's also room for a ram upgrade in the future. 

i just dont see the hate on old workstation hardware, cpu's(speed) have long since not been the bottleneck for most AAA game(within reason, q6600 are to old for example), the ones left are are mostly the GPU, RAM, and CPU thread count. going for old hardware would give you the threads necessary to run most games while also giving you an entire pc(no gpu) that costs less then a cpu actually needed to run real CPU intensive games. my current "gaming" pc subsists of a t3500, and a w3550 with 8GB ram and a included 525W power supply for a total platform cost of around 120$ US, or 150$ CAD, and a gtx 970. if the gpu is replaced you can easily get a gpu that can do high-max setting at 1080P 60 fps with the rest of the budget.

 

for example of the performance i get,

 

Overwatch-80-120 FPS MAX Settings 1080P

 

BF1 Beta-75-100 FPS Max Settings 1080P(i think it was acting buggy not applying my AA setting when i tested that, so that might be the FPS for Ultra with no AA)

 

DOOM 55-80 FPS MAX settings(mostly hovered at 65 FPS rare dips below 60)

 

this will all be pointless in 2.5-4 years when pcie 4.0 comes out since it wont work in pcie 3.0 slots, but i don't see why buying a old pc off ebay wouldn't be a option since it can basically be used as a hold over for better parts when you get the money  

 

[stconquest]

18 minutes ago, hoodyracoon said:

i just dont see the hate on old workstation hardware, cpu's(speed) have long since not been the bottleneck for most AAA game(within reason, q6600 are to old for example), the ones left are are mostly the GPU, RAM, and CPU thread count. going for old hardware would give you the threads necessary to run most games while also giving you an entire pc(no gpu) that costs less then a cpu actually needed to run real CPU intensive games. my current "gaming" pc subsists of a t3500, and a w3550 with 8GB ram and a included 525W power supply for a total platform cost of around 120$ US, or 150$ CAD, and a gtx 970. if the gpu is replaced you can easily get a gpu that can do high-max setting at 1080P 60 fps with the rest of the budget.

 

for example of the performance i get,

 

Overwatch-80-120 FPS MAX Settings 1080P

 

BF1 Beta-75-100 FPS Max Settings 1080P(i think it was acting buggy not applying my AA setting when i tested that, so that might be the FPS for Ultra with no AA)

 

DOOM 55-80 FPS MAX settings(mostly hovered at 65 FPS rare dips below 60)

 

this will all be pointless in 2.5-4 years when pcie 4.0 comes out since it wont work in pcie 3.0 slots, but i don't see why buying a old pc off ebay wouldn't be a option since it can basically be used as a hold over for better parts when you get the money  

 

A quick search revealed the possibility this has a 600W PSU... add in a GTX 1060 for around $300 and you have a decent gaming PC.

 

8 cores/16 threads:

 

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/HP-Z600-Workstation-Xeon-2X-E5640-2-67GHZ-16GB-1TB-Quadro-2000-/152245392772?hash=item2372885584:g:i4MAAOSwzaJX3Xef