[Build Log] Project Frost - Case-Labs THW10 | X99 Watercooled | i7 6950X | Titan X | Borosilicate Glass Tubing

[Bananasplit_00]

26 minutes ago, Revan654 said:

Alpha Introduces there version of M.2 cooling including one waterblock. As with AlphaCool there overcharging for it, getting almost as expensive as a GPU block from. It's 20+ dollars more expensive then Aqua-Computer, Which are made from German parts & high grade copper & Nickel.

 

The ports should been on top and bottom not the front so you could have run it from GPU to M.2 block like what Aqua-Computer does.

 

 

that seems like a pretty shitty design outside of the looks, it looks pretty decent, but it just feels wrong

[Revan654]

Prep Work before I start to paint my Radiators:

 

 

Only the 560 rads needed prep work due to glue left over from the gasket's.

[myspeakersaremuffled]

That must be like $5000 total or something

[Shiv78]

3 minutes ago, myspeakersaremuffled said:

That must be like $5000 total or something

lol cute probably close to 1.5x-2x that

[Bananasplit_00]

3 hours ago, Shiv78 said:

lol cute probably close to 1.5x-2x that

 

3 hours ago, myspeakersaremuffled said:

That must be like $5000 total or something

I don't think anyone knows tbh. Not even OP. Most of it was bought with gift cards and stuff iirc and nor do I think Revan actually cares how much it is lol

[Shiv78]

7 hours ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

I don't think anyone knows tbh. Not even OP. Most of it was bought with gift cards and stuff iirc and nor do I think Revan actually cares how much it is lol

true but if i was not lazy enough to make a pcpartpicker it would probably be well over $7000

[Revan654]

On 7/21/2017 at 9:37 AM, Shiv78 said:

true but if i was not lazy enough to make a pcpartpicker it would probably be well over $7000

Good Luck with that. Half my parts are not even listed on that site. Plus there are parts from Molex that come many different forms. Plus when you buy in Bulk or after you buy so many you get discount.

 

Example: 16 AWG Gold Plated Mini -Fit Jr: .50 per terminals for Lose, Reel is .30 per terminal when you buy 100, .26 when you buy 1,000, etc...

 

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- After working with Corsair & there ribbon wiring. I find all other wiring a pain to deal with it. Ribbon wiring you know which one goes into first slot.

- Shame Ribbon wiring is so expensive to buy. It's almost 2 dollars for every 12" with 4 conductors. 100ft is 160 dollars.

- Molex Mini Fit Jr 18 CKT 46992-1810 (Still on Back Order) - Lead Time: 15 Weeks. Delivery Date: Unknown

- Really wish Molex would start release some of there housing in Black instead of just White. It wouldn't force me to buy other brands.

 

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BeQuiet Fans Re-Sleeved with MDPC-X.

 

 

Due to the wire track I couldn't run the sleeving to the soldering point like with Corsair ML Pro's.

 

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One Corsair Fan was mis-wired. Due to the recent upgrade to support system at Corsair It's nearly impossible to get ahold of any one from Corsair to create a RMA for the fan.

 

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Bulk Order of MDPC-X

 

 

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Any option on If I should go Push/Pull with my rads & set all rpm's at 800 RPM's or single Fan at 900 to 1300 rpm's?

 

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On to the next part covering the backs of the fans with Vinyl to hide the wiring.

 

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My two 560 radiators are mostly done being painted. I'm now out of paint wait for another order to arrive so I can do my 420 rads.

[CyberFern0]

y the flip do you have so many tbs for storage

[KeepItCool]

16 hours ago, Revan654 said:

Good Luck with that. Half my parts are not even listed on that site. Plus there are parts from Molex that come many different forms. Plus when you buy in Bulk or after you buy so many you get discount.

 

Example: 16 AWG Gold Plated Mini -Fit Jr: .50 per terminals for Lose, Reel is .30 per terminal when you buy 100, .26 when you buy 1,000, etc...

 

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- After working with Corsair & there ribbon wiring. I find all other wiring a pain to deal with it. Ribbon wiring you know which one goes into first slot.

- Shame Ribbon wiring is so expensive to buy. It's almost 2 dollars for every 12" with 4 conductors. 100ft is 160 dollars.

- Molex Mini Fit Jr 18 CKT 46992-1810 (Still on Back Order) - Lead Time: 15 Weeks. Delivery Date: Unknown

- Really wish Molex would start release some of there housing in Black instead of just White. It wouldn't force me to buy other brands.

 

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BeQuiet Fans Re-Sleeved with MDPC-X.

 

 

Due to the wire track I couldn't run the sleeving to the soldering point like with Corsair ML Pro's.

 

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One Corsair Fan was mis-wired. Due to the recent upgrade to support system at Corsair It's nearly impossible to get ahold of any one from Corsair to create a RMA for the fan.

 

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Bulk Order of MDPC-X

 

 

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Any option on If I should go Push/Pull with my rads & set all rpm's at 800 RPM's or single Fan at 900 to 1300 rpm's?

 

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On to the next part covering the backs of the fans with Vinyl to hide the wiring.

 

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My two 560 radiators are mostly done being painted. I'm now out of paint wait for another order to arrive so I can do my 420 rads.

Do you cover up the fins during painting. Since use good quality paint does it effect performance on the rad or the difference is insignificant.

[Bananasplit_00]

6 hours ago, KeepItCool said:

Do you cover up the fins during painting. Since use good quality paint does it effect performance on the rad or the difference is insignificant.

dude snip out atleast the pictures...

 

 

anyway do push-pull 800rpm IMO

[Revan654]

7 hours ago, KeepItCool said:

Do you cover up the fins during painting. Since use good quality paint does it effect performance on the rad or the difference is insignificant.

 

Some advise covering up the fins, Paint has no real impact of removing the heat from the radiator(Unless you have some very thick layers of paints on the fins). The paint layer on the fins are thin that it will not have any kind of performance difference. Plus the fins are painted before shipping them out already.

 

I did a quick search on some build logs & others paint the fins too: http://www.overclock.net/t/1622492/build-log-the-big-red-devastator-caselabs-thw10-custom-powder-coating/70#post_25917026

[Revan654]

 

Fan test has started.

[Bananasplit_00]

1 minute ago, Revan654 said:

 

Fan test has started.

what are you testing the fans for?

[Shiv78]

33 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

what are you testing the fans for?

for if they work...?

[Revan654]

2 hours ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

what are you testing the fans for?

 

Why wouldn't I? I replaced the terminal on every fan.

[Revan654]

 

[Bananasplit_00]

7 hours ago, Revan654 said:

 

Why wouldn't I? I replaced the terminal on every fan.

 

9 hours ago, Shiv78 said:

for if they work...?

didnt think about that  

[Shiv78]

12 hours ago, Revan654 said:

-snip-

those are some BEAUTIFUL cables! 0 slack looks amazing

[Revan654]

3 hours ago, Shiv78 said:

those are some BEAUTIFUL cables! 0 slack looks amazing

 

Thanks the, The sleeving is super tight (It's only around 2mm OD). Hardest part is trying to cut the sleeving that small with a hot Knife. However I could only use 18 AWG wiring instead of the normal 16 AWG.

 

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MDPC-X has officially retired there crimpers & have introduced there new ones "Crimping Tool CTX3". There's no picture currently. There set to be released on July 25th.

 

[Revan654]

 

 

All Sata Power Connectors wired with 18 AWG & DarkSide Sleeving. I'm going to test MDPC-X with 18 AWG & 16 (2mm version)  at some point to see if heatshrinkless is possible witth the thicker sleeving.

 

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When buying Push-In connectors be careful on the brand you buy.

 

 

ModSmart -> TKG -> HWT -> Molex

 

To this date I still haven't been able to get any kind of wiring into the ModSmart connector. The spacing is so tiny & teeth refuses to accept 16 or 18 AWG wiring.

 

TKG will accept larger OD wiring but you will not be able to do any kind of heatshrinkless sleeving due to how the covers are designed.

 

HWT most commonly used Brand with sleeving due to how cheap the connectors are. It should accept 18 AWG without any issues. 16 AWG I have no idea if it will work or not.

 

The official Brand Molex will accept 18 AWG easily. I will test to see if it will accept 16 AWG (2mm version) at a later date.

 

There also JMT which I don't have any right now to test & see what wiring they will accept. They tend to follow Molex guidelines when it comes to specs of there connectors (Usually they allow larger OD then what Molex brand accepts).

 

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I went ahead & ordered a 3rd PowerAdjust 3 Ultra for my BeQuiet Fans.

 

Speaking of BeQuiet, They wire the fans are wired very oddly. You would think it would be 1:1 but no. It's basically 1 -> 4 | 4-> 1. If you ever de-attach the connector be sure to re-connect them the way BeQuiet wires them or they will not run.

 

Also to this day I have yet to see any fan sleeving with High Quality sleeving(WaterCool is only company I seen to use Very high Quality Sleeving but it's on there LED for the GPU & res). BeQuiet which is better then most cable sleeving. Still uses medium quality sleeving (It's very thin sleeving & you can see through it to see the wires). It's still better then what companies like ThermalTake & Noctua uses (Which is the thick oily sleeving).

 

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a Word of Warning never buy anything directly from E22, It's been almost a week & they still haven't shipped out my order ( It's just a bunch of screws). They don't even respond to my E-mails. Time to file a a dispute with Pay-Pal. Talk about bad business practices.

 

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For those who asked, Here is all the tools I use for my Glass tubing:

 

[Revan654]

I Keep forgetting my Motherboard has a Molex port for some reason.

 

*Reminder Create a Molex Cable for Motherboard).*

 

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Doing some Sleeving test with thinner 22 AWG wiring. The sleeving is 1.5mm thick, Not sure if they make anything thinner (In PET or Paracord).

[Revan654]

Looks like AlphaCool & Mayhem are playing well together again. AlphaCool & Mayhem did have a meeting recently to work everything out. One thing it still not excuse is how AlphaCool treats some of there costumers & there business practices.

[Revan654]

 

0db  All electronic devices creates some type of db, 0db is unreachable with the current technology available.

 

Corsair ML Pro still performances better, Even if I didn't have any fans I would still go with Corsair.

[Bananasplit_00]

Just now, Revan654 said:

 

0db  All electronic devices creates some type of db, 0db is unreachable with the current technology available.

 

Corsair ML Pro still performances better, Even if I didn't have any fans I would still go with Corsair.

you can already turn off your fans with speedfan, these fans dont offer any improvement at all lol

[Trik'Stari]

Nice to see someone doing a glass tubing loop. I had the idea a long while ago, bought some tubing from amazon, but found that bending glass tubing is a REAL pain in the ass. Simple propane torch really isn't good enough (burns too hot, in too small of an area)

 

Best of luck.