Jagged Shadows,Pop in,Low LOD and jagged aa

[Meeseeks]

7 hours ago, DaoNayt said:

Tried my old Win7 system again. Identical issue on the old Nvidia 9600GT. I then swapped for an ancient Radeon 2600 (DDU and everything), and nothing changed. I mean this is a completely different computer with two different GPUs and the problem is the same on all of them. So even if it is electricity, or EMI or whatever, how can it affect different systems with different components of diferent generations in an identical way??

That's because they all are getting the same fault/issue in Electricity. Obviously they are gonna show identical symptoms. Means they are all getting affected in the same way.

 

For example: As i mentioned in my previous post about how my audio equipment when i ran on Square Wave UPS produced buzzing noise. So even if i buy audio equipment from different manufacturer with different hardware that will also produce same buzzing noise. Meaning they all will be getting the same Square Wave instead of Pure Sine Wave. As the fault is same hence the symptoms will be same.

[KarathKasun]

1 hour ago, Meeseeks said:

That's because they all are getting the same fault/issue in Electricity. Obviously they are gonna show identical symptoms. Means they are all getting affected in the same way.

 

For example: As i mentioned in my previous post about how my audio equipment when i ran on Square Wave UPS produced buzzing noise. So even if i buy audio equipment from different manufacturer with different hardware that will also produce same buzzing noise. Meaning they all will be getting the same Square Wave instead of Pure Sine Wave. As the fault is same hence the symptoms will be same.

Electricity is out of the question already.  Someone shipped a PC to the other side of a city and had the same issue at both places.

 

Also, not all audio equipment will have the buzzing sound in your example.  It just depends on how much filtering is applied by the audio equipment's power supply.

[Meeseeks]

2 hours ago, KarathKasun said:

Electricity is out of the question already.  Someone shipped a PC to the other side of a city and had the same issue at both places.

 

Also, not all audio equipment will have the buzzing sound in your example.  It just depends on how much filtering is applied by the audio equipment's power supply.

Someone shipped a PC to another city doesn't prove your point that Electricity is out of question. What about people who got it after moving to another house/city? What about those people who have fixed it by plugging PC in different outlet? What about people who got it after they overclocked their PC? What about people who have it in all of their devices in their home including PS4, Xbox one etc? What about them?

 

Manufacturers don't design their equipment to run on fault conditions or square wave. They design them keeping in mind pure sine wave without any issues. What kind of filtering are you talking about? Usually low pass filter and high pass filter are used to ignore signals and noise at certain frequency. They do not make sine wave out of a square wave OR they do not fix issues present in sine wave. 

 

So if we exclude Electricity and try finding issues in software. Do you really think it will help us even after what i told you:

 

There is no such software/software setting/software bug that can cause Blur/Compression artifact in Bios Logo and decide on it's own to change the intensity of this Blur/Compression artifact. 

[Bearhugger]

Guys.

I verified that I can reset my gpu to good graphics quality by plugging the pc in a different power outlet (even without resetting the bios...).

So, I'm pretty sure it is only power related.

Will try sometime to plug my pc in my old plug (about one and a half year ago, when all was well)

which is on first floor (rite now I'm in cellar with my pc)...

[I_dont_know200]

4 hours ago, Meeseeks said:

Someone shipped a PC to another city doesn't prove your point that Electricity is out of question. What about people who got it after moving to another house/city? What about those people who have fixed it by plugging PC in different outlet? What about people who got it after they overclocked their PC? What about people who have it in all of their devices in their home including PS4, Xbox one etc? What about them?

 

Manufacturers don't design their equipment to run on fault conditions or square wave. They design them keeping in mind pure sine wave without any issues. What kind of filtering are you talking about? Usually low pass filter and high pass filter are used to ignore signals and noise at certain frequency. They do not make sine wave out of a square wave OR they do not fix issues present in sine wave. 

 

So if we exclude Electricity and try finding issues in software. Do you really think it will help us even after what i told you:

 

There is no such software/software setting/software bug that can cause Blur/Compression artifact in Bios Logo and decide on it's own to change the intensity of this Blur/Compression artifact. 

If power is the issue wouldnt a electrician know what it is? I mean if it is that impacting on microelectronics it for sure must be measureable with standard equipment, and as far as i know that allready has been tried.

Why do for example devices never connected to the local grid also have the same problems? (still need to verify this)

Also we are from different areas of the world how is it possible that all those power suppliers make the exact same mistake and how can it be that PCs are Hardware wise fine but still have the same problem in other cities.

[I_dont_know200]

3 hours ago, Strider890 said:

If is eletricty my PC is damaged or some component.

I saw myself in my city at service that my games have same problem just like in my house.

I thought these guys at service in my city have components similar like mine but they don't have.

 

Something wrong in eletricity damages our PC's and other stuff (consoles,TV's,laptops, and mobile phones) and when you move to other city/place you also have a problem not with eletricity this time but with damaged hardware.

Except the hardware isnt damaged i got 4 PCs they all have this at the same time one of em a notebook (never connected in half a year) had the exact same artefacts after just very short connection too power, but what i might try out is use completly new devices unconnected to anything in my town if they got the same issue we can safly assume power has nothing to do with it.

[I_dont_know200]

1 hour ago, Strider890 said:

It have something due the eletricity.Ask Bearhugger, Meeseeks and topic creator (who is sadly banned) which he states his problem is gone in different house and other people who suffered this issuse overnight.

 

My PC is damaged, I used him at three separate places and its show same shit on these places.

Point is we need proof for that and not some theories and undocumented cases where it "apparently" was fixed, fact is that no technician found a hardware cause yet, electricity damages would be noticable even by simple diagnostics software, also it would never cause the exact same outcome in so many different situations.

Trust me i want to know whats going on as much as anyone here but we need to do this rationally and not point at something and call it a day, thats why i stated we need experts.

I like the idea of a streamlined error report like @Kladmaster suggested, it would definitly help explaining the issue to people that might have know how but dont believe us.

[Meeseeks]

Guys a few days ago our transformer blew up. The 4 wires, out of them 3 were phase and 1 was neutral which were at the secondary side of transformer are going all the way to the end of the street. Whenever someone gets new connection usually Power Company connect their house wires to these wires. These wires are bare aluminum wires and they were very close to each other. When i heard something blew i went outside and saw these wires were dangling very close to each other. This was a clear sign that a short occurred. So we(neighbours) called Power Company and they came and figured after testing that we need a new transformer. They installed the new transformer and when they connected wires to the primary and secondary side, the bare aluminum wires started to produce ARC Flash all the way to the end of the street. So i told these linemen to increase the gap between these wires. So they did and we got our electricity back.

After all that, next day i went upstairs to my room and checked the voltage readings that i mentioned in my previous post and they were even better than before i.e. Neutral-Earth voltage were below 20V. Which used to be above 50V on old transformer and before that on same old transformer they went up to 220V. Now on new transformer and after putting a gap between the bare aluminum conductors the voltages (Neutral-Earth) are under 25V. I don't know for how long they will stay like that. Fault is still present but is less intensity wise. This is the video i captured of me taking voltage readings after the new transformer. Readings are in this order Neutral-Earth then Phase-Earth then Phase-Neutral. I never captured video of voltage readings on the old transformer which i regret.

Something very interesting, as @Asasinas showed in one of his post that he was getting flickering in Borderlands 3 trailer on PCGamer. At the time when he posted that video i also tried that and saw same results of flickering/Shimmering in that video but only when i hovered my mouse over the video to bring up youtube menu. But i did one more thing with that, i opened up the Windows Task Manager and noticed that whenever i hover my mouse over the video, my cpu usage increase to 100% and flickering appear. This was on laptop. So after the transformer got replaced, i performed the same test but this time the cpu usage never went above 40% and there was no flickering. As you can see in this video i captured. Again i made a mistake of not capturing the video on the old transformer. I really regret it.

Also after we got new transformer/gap in wires, i noticed that my laptop image quality was better than before. But it was not completely fixed. On my laptop, in VLC Media Player Blur/Shimmering while playing videos especially when video gets smaller in lower left hand corner while viewing the playlist is greatly reduced for me. Blur/Shimmering in VLC Media Player while watching in fullscreen is greatly reduced now. Also Blur/Shimmering in youtube thumbnail preview when we hover mouse over is greatly reduced for me now. On my main gaming PC the issues inside of games are same so it's very likely that something got damaged or the issue in Electricity is still there but is less in intensity. 

What i think is that either the transformer they are putting up are faulty or there is something wrong with the bare wires being too close or whatever it is, coming from the Grid. Also issue got reduced after replacing transformer but i can't say for certain that it's transformer because there is bad wiring present inside this house. Although issue in my laptop is not fixed completely but it has greatly reduced. I confirmed from the lineman who came to replace the transformer. I told him that i am getting high neutral voltages and electronic devices in my house are getting affected. He told me that these transformers(old and also the new one) that we are putting up in this area are old and they are repaired ones. This article explains the faults in transformers and how Flux can leak from the transformer in "Flux Contaminant" and other issues in transformer: 

https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/alternating-current/chpt-9/practical-considerations-transformers/

As you can see in this video that this is our transformer. Note how they have created gap between 4 bare wires with sticks. Note how dangerously close the bare wires are from these people houses.

 

 

[DaoNayt]

This is still unsafe, any strong wind can knock those sticks off. 

We had a similar issue a couple of years ago, when wires on the outside pole got tangled in tree branches (because the city is being cheap and they delay trimming as long as possible), so they shorted and we were without power for 5 hours. 

Guess I need to buy a multimeter and check, but if it is really power thats causing this, I am certain that the power company isn't going to replace anything just because one guy says his videogames dont look right...

 

Also, keep in mind that the shimmering difference might have been solved simply by a browser update.

[DaoNayt]

Hahah I'm playing KOTOR

 

[I_dont_know200]

Allright i think i am giving up and this is something i dont say lightly, i wont give up on this issue but working with the community especially reddit showed me how stupid people are.... again.

On all posts i made i either got insulted or people think we are crazy there will be no help from them they dont care aslong as there systems run fine, atleast here people are civil probably since you all know how annoying this can be.

[Asasinas]

I am quite surprised to know there are more players who have TAA issues in Total War: Three Kingdoms. I've made a topic in Total War forums and one guy (Spadizzle9289) replied that he has exact same problems as me:

https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/243802

 

He also made his own topic:

https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/244088

 

I talked with him a little bit. Looks like we have some similarities in hardware. He has i5 6600k, RTX 2070, 16GB RAM and 700W power supply. I have i7 6700k, RTX 2080 Ti, 16GB RAM and 750w PSU. I upgraded my GPU in december, he upgraded GPU in february. Soooo... maybe we both broke PCIE slot somehow? But even if this is the case, this does not explain why this issue appears on other computers I tested. So, maybe something with power (also doesn't explain why issue appears on several computers I tested).

 

It's good to know I'm not alone. Sadly, I haven't found any solution, yet.

[TotallyNotYaBoi]

Hello Everyone!

 

I'm 15 years old and saved for 3 years for a $2500 rig, and because someone up there does not like me, i have been suffering from this bug since a week after I built it, approx. 1 year ago. But you don't want my sob story, you want answers and I want to help find them.

 

However, noticed something interesting while playing a friend's copy of Doom 2016 on my PC.  NO ISSUE!

 

Could it be that because Doom 2016 runs on Open GL 4.5 as opposed to Direct X, it is unaffected?  Maybe a problem within Direct X Itself?  As far as I know, Doom is one of few games that uses Open GL as opposed to Direct X.  Look forward to your responses.

 

Your brother in arms,

BKJ

[DaoNayt]

DOOM uses very good temporal antialiasing which mostly covers the issue even on my system. Try other AA options.

[Meeseeks]

@Braedon J Do you have issues outside of games like overall bad image quality, blur everywhere? If you do then there is no such software that can cause this blur/bad image quality.

 

In your other post, you have mentioned symptoms in detail. OpenGL, DirectX or any other software cannot cause those issues:

linustechtips.com/main/topic/1019008-what-the-heck-is-going-on/?tab=comments#comment-12169693

Something is wrong in power where you live at. I advise you to hire a Power Quality Expert and tell him about this issue. If you can't hire a Power Quality Expert then hire a Certified Electrician.
 

[TotallyNotYaBoi]

So essentially yes, jagged edges most everywhere so you are most likely correct.  This issue occurs in pretty much all games I have.  Only notice blurriness in 3D applications.  Have replaced every component at least once, motherboard has been tested.  What evidence is there that the issue is power related?  I have a power regulator, I assume you have already discussed this with people before, thanks for all the help

[Meeseeks]

Finding evidence that it's power related is not difficult. As you have tried 2 different configurations. You should ask yourself what was common b/w those 2 configs. Was it not the power in your house? Also you can examine what Bearhugger said that he fixed this issue by plugging his PC in different outlet. You should also check out Harsh45 and others who have bought many different PCs and got the same issue on all of them. For me it happened when i moved to this house. That coil whine you have mentioned means something in your PC is under stress. When i moved to this house the sound from my intel stock fan increased and some of the fans stopped working. Also my cpu usage increased and i experienced stutter just like you. It's not like we don't have evidence that it's power related. 

[TotallyNotYaBoi]

Ah, so replacing the power supply as I did would not help I see.  Did try 2 different outlets but only 2.  Should I use a multimeter to see how much the socket is putting out?  And is a 650W PSU good enough for my setup under full load?

[KarathKasun]

30 minutes ago, TotallyNotYaBoi said:

Ah, so replacing the power supply as I did would not help I see.  Did try 2 different outlets but only 2.  Should I use a multimeter to see how much the socket is putting out?  And is a 650W PSU good enough for my setup under full load?

You need a scope to test, not a DMM.

[KarathKasun]

1 hour ago, Meeseeks said:

Finding evidence that it's power related is not difficult. As you have tried 2 different configurations. You should ask yourself what was common b/w those 2 configs. Was it not the power in your house? Also you can examine what Bearhugger said that he fixed this issue by plugging his PC in different outlet. You should also check out Harsh45 and others who have bought many different PCs and got the same issue on all of them. For me it happened when i moved to this house. That coil whine you have mentioned means something in your PC is under stress. When i moved to this house the sound from my intel stock fan increased and some of the fans stopped working. Also my cpu usage increased and i experienced stutter just like you. It's not like we don't have evidence that it's power related. 

That is not evidence.  It is correlation, which is not the same as causation.

[Meeseeks]

13 hours ago, TotallyNotYaBoi said:

Ah, so replacing the power supply as I did would not help I see.  Did try 2 different outlets but only 2.  Should I use a multimeter to see how much the socket is putting out?  And is a 650W PSU good enough for my setup under full load?

You can use a multimeter to test the voltages that i mentioned in my posts. Just be careful and keep in mind not to plug probes in A on multimeter. Don't touch any metal parts. It's better if you hire a certified electrician to check that and maybe he'll figure out what's wrong. If it's something else in electricity then that will require an Oscilloscope and also someone with experience. 

Your PSU is enough to handle your PC specs under full load. Btw you can check that using this website: 
https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator

or 
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

[can0753]

A week after I sat on the computer it seems that the tingling has increased even more

 

[Gatekeeper432]

Hi, im new to the forum, suffering from the exact same issues. Flickering, aliasing but mainly and what bothers me the most are the extreme texture pop-ins / low draw distance im experiencing in all games and i know for a fact that i didn't have any of these issues before. And i mean its extreme, textures popping in just 5 feet in front of my character and whenever a new room or area in game is loaded it shows low-res textures and takes about 3-5 secs to finally load the high-res textures and i know for a fact i didn't have that before because i obsessed about modding and making RE7 even more beautiful and know the game in and out (played it many times) and never once did i experience slow texture loading before. Like zero. And to you naysayers thinking its just in our heads or has always been there, just don't, because i would have noticed slow texture loading that takes 3-5 secs before, especially when modding a game and paying extra close attention to details. How could one not notice that long of a delay? So please stop your ignorance. Now i haven't read the entire thread yet, just a few of the newer pages and wanted to share my story because i think it can potentially / hopefully shed some light on this issue we are all suffering from. I've done a lot of research and i believe that slowly but surely im getting to the bottom of what causes this, so read carefully and please bare with me.

 

First of all i want to mention that i live in a very old house, but still i didn't have any of these issues before and after having done a lot of research im convinced by now that these issues are definitely NOT driver, hardware or software related and indeed electricity seems to play a role here. Now im going to mention and bring up things that first may sound totally unrelated but they all connect and may reveal the bigger picture, so just bare with me. Let's begin.

 

But before i share my story, i will list what i consider established facts:

 

ESTABLISHED FACTS:

 

Game engine:

 

Game engine / game poorly optimized etc cannot be the cause, or else every single person would experience the exact same issues, but that's not the case at all. Some people experience low draw distance, others do not, despite ingame settings. In my case, in RE7 i had zero slow texture loading / texture pop-in issues before. Something caused that to appear, its not the game itself. Some have it, some don't and that is true for both, PC's and consoles (PS4, Xbox etc), therefor the game engine itself can be ruled out without a doubt.

 

Drivers:

 

Drivers cannot be the cause either. If drivers would cause these issues, it could easily be fixed by knowing which driver version worked before that caused no issues whatsoever and then simply formatting your harddrive and doing a clean windows install and then installing the driver version that showed no issues before. In my case i know exactly which driver versions worked perfectly and even which driver versions were slightly superior on my rig in the games i play than other driver versions, because i kept notes. So drivers can be ruled out as well, UNLESS driver installs now go beyond the actual harddrive, beyond the realm of the OS itself and permanently affect other things as well which is highly unlikely if you ask me, but please enlighten me?

 

Hardware:

 

It cannot be hardware related either, plenty people have tried buying new components and even entirely new rigs still having the same issues. Not much more that needs to be said about that. Taking into account all the other forums and shared experiences of people getting new components / entirely new PC's, i think it can be safely ruled out as well. Especially since these issues also happen on consoles, tablets, and even TV's and phones. How did those become infected in the first place?

 

Software:

 

Could it be that software of some kind causes these things to happen, where it somehow messes up or interferes with computing processes? Can't say for sure, but personally i find that highly unlikely too and in my case i know exactly what games, software and drivers i had installed when everything was working perfectly because again i kept notes. Even kept notes of changes in windows settings i made. And reverting back to that setup, where i know for a fact everything worked perfectly with the things i had installed, still won't fix it. So whatever caused it, seems to be there to stay with you, no matter what you do, which means this issue goes way beyond the actual harddrive which would be easily fixed by formatting the harddrive and doing a clean windows install, only using the drivers and installing the software i know for a fact gave me no issues whatsoever. But that's not the case, the issues persist. If it really is caused by software somehow, that begs the question, can software permanently damage hardware components? And if that's the case, it is a virus / rootkit by definiton and something that required a creator / mind behind it and was intentional, not an accidental fault or driver / software error. Accidental bugs do simpy not reach that far, they shouldn't and i believe cannot affect anything outside the realm of your OS and formatting your harddrive should always get rid of it. So whatever causes these issues we are experiencing goes far beyond the OS itself and is caused by something entirely different, unless software can actually cause permanent damage of some kind to components but then, as previously mentioned, by defintion, it is a virus. Accidental software or driver bugs can simply not affect anything outside the realm of an OS.

 

Furthermore, people reported that when testing to see if this was a GPU issue, they installed a friend's GPU (that didnt have any of these issues) in their PC and the problem was still apparent. When that GPU was put back into their friend's PC, the problem was transferred to that computer. Now here's where it gets weird. His friends Xbox one, which had not had any contact with either of the computers other than being plugged into an electrical outlet in the same house, now also had the issue. How is this possible? This is what made me think its some type of virus at first, and i can't entirely rule that out yet either but somehow electricity plays a role here as well as im going to prove in a bit.

 

Having said all that, i will now share my story.

 

First weird thing i noticed is when I bought a high end smoothie maker with 3HP (for 300€) that can even crush avocado seeds etc, very powerful, wouldn't even start when i plugged it into electrical outlets in my living room. But it would start normally when using electricial outlets in other rooms. At first i didn't give it much thought at that time, ignorantly dismissing it as probably being a loose contact in the plug connection on the gearbox shift unit or something. That was the first indicator of something being not right, but i didn't give it much thought at the time and moved on with my life forgetting about it because it worked normally in other rooms. And since all my other electronics seemed to work normally in my living room, i just moved on and forgot about it.

 

More weird stuff started to happen very soon. First, i have to mention that when i moved into this apartment, i've been using halogen light bulbs in all rooms, simply because its standard here in germany. One day, the halogen light bulb in my living room (where also my main offline gaming rig is located) started to flicker for a few seconds every time i turned it on and by "flicker" i mean it flickered, meaning the light wasn't constant. It looked as if someone would turn it on and off at a very fast speed, disco-like. But like i said this flickering happened only for a few secs (2-3 secs) and then fixed itself and started shining normally again and constant. Didn't think much of it, thought my halogen light bulb is dying and i should prolly get a new one but i dragged it out. However, the more days past, the longer i dragged it out, the longer the flickering took until it fixed itself to shining normally again. After a week or so the flickering time increased from just 2-3 secs in the very beginning to 5-10 secs. After two weeks or so, every time i turned on the light, it flickered longer and longer until i reached a point after over a month where it took like a good 30 mins of flickering until it fixed itself again and started to shine normally / constant again. As previously mentioned i thought the light bulb is dying, so i finally went out to buy a new one.

 

Now since at that time, halogen light bulbs were banned here in germany and everybody was supposed / forced to switch to LED light bulbs (not sure if this was a global change or just here in germany), since that was happening, it was hard to find halogen light bulbs because they took them off the market. So i went to buy a LED light bulb instead but from one of those cheap (purchase and sale) shops in hopes it was slightly cheaper which it was. Bought it and went back home. Screwed the light bulb in and it worked normally but the light was so white and bright compared to my yellowish old halogen light bulb, i couldn't bare it. It bothered me a lot, so i thought to myself fuck it, i will bring this one back and keep using the old flickering one and just leave it turned on all the time, lol, until i find another halogen light bulb to replace it with. I was determined to stay with halogen light bulbs for as long as possible because i didn't like the light the LED light bulb was casting due to the high amount of blue light in it which is actually quite harmful for your health, you can research that. So i returned the LED bulb and kept using the old flickering one for a little longer but now i just kept it on all the time. Of course the day came where it died completely, but by now i already ordered replacements for it (exactly same model) but to my surprise, none of the brand new halogen light bulbs i had ordered would work. None of them. I was perplexed and thought to myself "ok this halogen light bulb ban is very serious", i thought that they somehow made them not work anymore, thus forcing everybody to switch to LED bulbs, what do i know about it right? So i went out to the store, this time NOT a cheap "purchase and sale" shop but a proper one and purchased brand new LED light bulbs. Back home, screwed them in but none of them worked either, huh? What the heck? Here i have brand new LED bulbs that don't work in my home. Went back to the store, told them they don't work, the guy had a testing unit type thing, screwed it in right there and it worked normally in the store. Went back home, still doesn't work in my house. Went to my friend's house for further testing, works normally in my friend's house, uhm what? But everything else in my living room, including all electronics seem to work normally.

 

But i remembered that the LED light bulb i previously bought from the cheap "purchase and sale" shop did work normally in my living room, but i had returned it because i didn't like the bright white light, so i went back again and purchased it again, lol. And that one works, uhm what? So brand new LED light bulbs bought from the store do not work for me at all, but do work in the store itself and in my friend's house. How is this even possible? And if there is an issue with my connection, then why does the LED light bulb from the cheap store work normally but not the ones from regular stores that are even more expensive? And i tried several different brands.

 

Could this have anything to do with the issues im experiencing with my PC? Knowing that this a global issue and people have reported that it also occurs on consoles, TV's, tablets and even phones, after all, what is the common denominator between all of them? Is it not the electricity? I have the same issue on my laptop as well and i never connected my laptop to my main gaming rig directly. But i did use the same external harddrives, usb sticks etc on both to transfer data between them. Im also pretty sure my phone is infected too, the overall image quality degraded. So what could it be other than either a virus of some kind or the electricity? How could my laptop become infected in the first place when it was never connected to my main gaming rig? I don't even do any gaming on my laptop. I dont mess around with any settings on my laptop. Its for online purposes only. I do not mess around with drivers or anything on my laptop. I haven't changed anything for i dont know how long, drivers-wise or updates-wise other than regular windows security updates, so how could my laptop become infected by it as well when i don't even use it for gaming or don't even mess around with settings, drivers etc? I have aliasing on my desktop when i move "windows" around and the overall image quality reduced on my laptop. And the only common denominator between the two is the electricity or the fact that i used the same externals and usb sticks on my laptop that i used on my infected offline gaming rig as well. Therefor i concluded that it can only be the electricity or a virus. Furthermore, i run a modified win 7 version on my main offline gaming rig with windows updates only till novemer 2017 and that on purpose. That rules out newer windows updates as being the cause for this completely or maybe not and its something dormant in those updates that takes specific triggers or something for it to appear. This is just so damn mind boggling. 

 

But here's what im planning to do. Im gonna call an electrician to help me figure out why brand new LED light bulbs purchased from the store do not work in my living room, but do work in the store and in my friend's house, same for the older halogen bulbs and then im gonna ask the electrician why only the cheap LED light bulb from the cheap store works but not the others. That's the next step im planning to take. Its definitely NOT game or hardware or driver related. Period. Software related? Maybe, but if it affects things beyond the windows realm and the harddrive itself and if formatting the harddrive and doing a clean windows install doesn't change anything, then by defintion, its a virus that caused permanent damage in some type of way beyond the windows realm. Either that OR its the electricity. What else can it be? I see those two as the only common denominators, since this is also happening on consoles etc, but not on all of them either. So the fact remains that NO this is NOT normal, its NOT just in our heads and it has NOT always been there like some people ignorantly claim. So i think i have it narrowed down to either being an electricity problem of some kind or a virus. Anything else makes no sense to me and taking into account all the different things people have tried already to fix this, we can safely rule out game engine, drivers, hardware and most likely software as well because again i kept notes and i know exactly what drivers, software, games i had installed prior where everything was working perfectly. I know the exact windows settings etc as well. EVERYTHING. And if i only install the things i know for a fact worked perfectly for me and that on a completely isolated offline maschine, then it cannot be anything else but a virus or electricity problem, no?

 

I will keep you guys updated once the electrician was here but that may take a while but i will report back.

[FarAwayFromTheSun]

My games look bad and play bad with Radeon 7450, all i can do most is 480P in lower than low, everything looks jagged and pops up.

 

Hopefully it changes a bit with the R9 280x i am getting in post tomorrow.

[Gatekeeper432]

5 hours ago, Strider890 said:

This isnt normal and NO problem don't exist in our heads.

I don't know what to do with my PC.FFS I wasted 800€ for PC to play Hearthstone on him!!!

My PC shows this problem in different city, in other part of my city and when is plugged in different outles in my house.

Trust me i understand your frustration but if we ever want to find a solution, we must come together and work together and we must remain rational and spread the word, but it appears as if more and more people become infected by this issue already anyway. Whatever causes this, it is spreading and it seems to gain momentum and maybe just a matter of time until it catches some expert's attention, at least i'm hoping for it. But until then, we are on our own and we must work together and be logical about it.

 

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Now to add to my initial post. While i currently lean more towards the electricity theory, there are still many unanswered questions and even outright contradictions if we take into account all the statements of other people. I read about some people claiming that installing some Skyrim mod triggered it for them. One guy in particular claimed to have temporarily fixed it by installing another version of that same mod, at least temporarily until he tried some ENB mod and it went back to shit. Assuming that person is telling the truth (and i certainly don't call anyone a liar), it doesn't quite fit in to the electricity theory. This is why its so damn confusing to me, people claiming different things mentioning completely different triggers. Some claim changing the GPU or CPU or Mobo triggered it for them, its just so damn confusing.

 

In my case, the very first time this issue manifested itself for me, was after i installed Far Cry 5 (Elamigos). Now i cannot say for sure if that was the culprit or trigger or not, but that was the very moment the issue manifested itself for me and where i witnessed it for the very first time. Before i installed that game everything was flawless and i didn't mess with any settings either at the time because i was already happy with everything, just playing games. The only thing i messed around with was Reshade. And again, my main gaming rig is isolated and completely offline. It has never seen the internet before and never will. And as previously mentioned i run a modified win 7 version with windows updates only up to november 2017 and that on purpose. Its a very clean system with only very few things installed. Very few games too. For online purposes i use a laptop. I use that same laptop to download all my stuff and then i transfer it to my isolated main offline gaming rig which actually minimizes infections of any kind by a great extend and allows me to pinpoint errors or infections to specific moments / times. Especially since i only had just very few games and applications installed.

 

Installing and playing Far Cry 5 was when i experienced the slow draw distance and texture pop-ins the very first time EVER. Before that, none of the games i had installed (which was only 4 games in total) had any of these issues. Everything was perfect on my isolated offline PC. But the weird thing about it is that i think to remember that the first time i played it i didn't have these horrible slow draw distance issues whatsoever. Only after i closed that game and opened it again, only then all these issues were there instantly. Which of course makes no sense but seems to be somehow connected to what some other guy in another thread claimed when he put his friend's GPU in his PC, it fixed the problem temporarily and he said he was so happy to have it fixed, he couldn't believe it. So he closed the game. And when he wanted to see again how beautiful the game looked, because he couldn't believe it and was so happy, he opened the game again only to find out the graphics went back to shit. It happened after he closed the game and opened it again when the graphics went back to shit for him and i believe his words. The first time i opened Far Cry 5 i didn't have these issues. Only after i closed it and opened it the second time, is when these issues were there for me, which is weird and makes no sense somehow and is part reason why i still can't fully reject the virus theory either.

 

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My PC shows this problem in different city, in other part of my city and when is plugged in different outles in my house

 

Well that seems to be in favor of the virus theory. Once your PC is infected its infected OR the electrical outlets in the house in the other part of the city were infected by the same electricial issue that your house is. I don't know, can't say, its just so damn bizarre.

 

Whatever the cause may be, since i do seem to have actual electricity problems in my house (at least in my living room), whether it be the cause or not, i have to call an electrician either way, so yea, that's what im planning to do next. Call a damn electrician, and he better be a good one and not a rookie, lol. And im gonna build a brand new PC too for the last time. If it won't fix it, i'm done and may give up gaming for good.

 

All i know and that for certain a 100%, is that it happened to me only after i installed Far Cry 5. Before that everything was flawless, every single one of those 4 games i had installed were perfect until i downloaded Far Cry 5 on my laptop, transferred it to my isolated offline gaming PC via usb stick, installed it and played it. That i know for certain a gazillion percent. Before that everything was perfect. After i installed it, issues everywhere. So bizarre. Now whether it was Far Cry 5 (virus) or something else (electricity) i don't know but i do know for certain that before i installed Far Cry 5 everything was perfect and after, issues everywhere.

 

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Hopefully it changes a bit with the R9 280x i am getting in post tomorrow.

Please keep us updated.

 

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PS: In the OP i read about dirty power / electricity and virus being ruled out and not to bring it up again.

 

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"Dirty power" or power-related. By the very nature of how a GPU functions and given the multiple "power-cleaning and conditioning" stages before it reaches the PC and GPU (PSU, VRMs etc), it's simply not possible for this issue to be caused by "dirty" or "infected" power source. So please do not suggest it.

 

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Virus or software "infection" of some kind. If this were the case, a simple wipe or swapping out of the storage drive(s) and clean OS install would fix the issue - but that has not been the case. So it seems; once the issue is there, it is extremely difficult to fix, aside from taking drastic measures.

 

Well sorry but that's based on very ignorant assumptions. In fact the two can even be combined. Unbeknownst to most, it is indeed very possible for a virus to travel through electricity and this whole talk about power-cleaning and conditioning stages before it reaches the PC is simply not true in this regard. A virus that travels through electricity wouldn't even be detected by absolutely nothing. Just saying. I could show you guys things you wouldn't believe were even possible to begin with.

 

Google "LoJax" UEFI Virus / Rootkit. Formatting one's harddrive won't get rid of this one and its active before the OS is fully booted. Hardware viruses are NOT a myth. They exist and are indeed possible and out there already (LoJax being one that is confirmed officially). Do some research on it if you wish. So i think a virus should not be ruled out entirely. Not saying that's the cause, but to ignorantly dismiss / reject something prematurely just because something sounds crazy to you or you don't fully understand how it would be even possible is just not very wise. Food for thought.

 

Here you go, a detailed report: https://www.welivesecurity.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/ESET-LoJax-1.pdf

 

Again, not saying a virus is the cause here, just showing you that its very possible and it should not be ruled out entirely. Food for thought.

 

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Someone shipped a PC to another city doesn't prove your point that Electricity is out of question. What about people who got it after moving to another house/city? What about those people who have fixed it by plugging PC in different outlet? What about people who got it after they overclocked their PC? What about people who have it in all of their devices in their home including PS4, Xbox one etc? What about them?

EXACTLY. For now im sticking with my own research and testing that made me conclude its either electricity related or a virus or both while at the same time i remain open-minded but nothing else makes sense to me at this point.

 

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There is no such software/software setting/software bug that can cause Blur/Compression artifact in Bios Logo and decide on it's own to change the intensity of this Blur/Compression artifact.

This. Only faulty electricity or a virus can cause this. I'm leaning towards electricity. Gonna call an electrician. Let's hope the best.