Is the "K" worth it

[19_blackie_73]

2 minutes ago, HKZeroFive said:

Overclocking sees a slight performance increase in games such as GTA V where a higher clockspeed + more threads = more FPS. K-series CPUs are not the most cost effective option but the tinkering aspect is quite enjoyable in my opinion.

but... more threads isn't helpful in gta v afaik... tested it with and without ht and it made no difference at all.so

so having an i5 won't be a bad deal either

[dams3]

9 minutes ago, 0ld_Chicken said:

nice, that sounds awesome!  I've never dabbled with phones but sub-ambient PC cooling has been calling my name for a while now

personally... I bought an i7 4790k with a gtx 960 because I knew I'd be upgrading graphics sooner rather than later.  I sold the 960 within 2 months, now i"m running 2x gtx 980's and I'm damn glad I went i7.  If you've got the cash and wont have to make other serious hardware sacrifices for it, get the i7.

 

Well i already knew id be getting an i7. The question is if a guy like me can significantly benefit from the ability to overclock and if its worth like 100 bucks more.

[0ld_Chicken]

2 minutes ago, dams3 said:

Well i already knew id be getting an i7. The question is if a guy like me can significantly benefit from the ability to overclock and if its worth like 100 bucks more.

the 100$ is throwing me off a little bit. In the US its ~$310 for a 6700, and $350 for a 6700k.  Definitely worth the 40$ in my opinion.  If it was 100$, that'd be harder to justify but I'd probably still do it  like HK05 said, the tinker factor is almost priceless 

[HKZeroFive]

3 minutes ago, 19_blackie_73 said:

but... more threads isn't helpful in gta v afaik... tested it with and without ht and it made no difference at all.so

so having an i5 won't be a bad deal either

You tested it with a GTX 970, correct? If it was a more powerful GPU such as the GTX 980Ti, you'll likely see a difference between a stock 6600K vs. a stock i7 6700K in GTA V.

[dams3]

1 minute ago, 0ld_Chicken said:

the 100$ is throwing me off a little bit. In the US its ~$310 for a 6700, and $350 for a 6700k.  Definitely worth the 40$ in my opinion.  If it was 100$, that'd be harder to justify but I'd probably still do it  like HK05 said, the tinker factor is almost priceless 

Im counting the motherboard too

[WereCat]

i7 6700k has no boxed cooler included so even if you don't plan on overclocking right away you need to spend extra for cooling. 

[0ld_Chicken]

5 minutes ago, dams3 said:

Im counting the motherboard too

that is reasonable.  Its worth it IMO100% but that is me, I've also spent almost 1k$ on my custom loop so maybe I shouldn't be giving advice on "is it worth it" lol

 you could probably get more performance gains by spending that elsewhere like better GPU's TBH but I'd have to work it out

[dams3]

7 minutes ago, WereCat said:

i7 6700k has no boxed cooler included so even if you don't plan on overclocking right away you need to spend extra for cooling. 

ohhh.... well unless i end up with more money than i think ill have, ill go with the 6700

[0ld_Chicken]

2 minutes ago, dams3 said:

ohhh.... well unless i end up with more money than i think ill have, ill go with the 6700

30$ will take care of cooling but that is another additional cost.  I didn't know they didn't include one with 6700k, I thought that was only 5xxxk and up

[WereCat]

1 minute ago, 0ld_Chicken said:

30$ will take care of cooling but that is another additional cost.  I didn't know they didn't include one with 6700k, I thought that was only 5xxxk and up

They don't since Skylake. Their argument is that people will OC it so including cooler is a waste. But instead of making it cheaper they use it for better profits.

So now all new K CPUs won't include cooler. 

[0ld_Chicken]

1 hour ago, WereCat said:

They don't since Skylake. Their argument is that people will OC it so including cooler is a waste. But instead of making it cheaper they use it for better profits.

So now all new K CPUs won't include cooler. 

yeah that makes sense to me.  I gave mine away for free with the Intel thermal paste still on it 

[Castdeath97]

1 hour ago, dams3 said:

Right away one rx 480 and i know those 2 cpus are more powerfull than the 480 will ever need but i think of this build as a base on which i will upgrade to 2 480s or one srronger gpu in the future

Why not get a 1070 and a i5 now? 

[dams3]

On 31/7/2016 at 8:02 PM, Castdeath97 said:

Why not get a 1070 and a i5 now? 

the i5's bottleneck the 1070, also ill be playing at 1080p so its a bit of a waste

[Castdeath97]

Just now, dams3 said:

the i5's bottleneck the 1070, also ill be playing at 1080p so its a bit of a waste

The i5 won't be a major bottleneck, not at all. seriously though consider investing in a 1440p screen.

[dams3]

48 minutes ago, Castdeath97 said:

The i5 won't be a major bottleneck, not at all. seriously though consider investing in a 1440p screen.

no

[Castdeath97]

11 hours ago, dams3 said:

no

Why not? What is your full budget? 1440P monitors are not that expensive anymore.

[dams3]

13 hours ago, Castdeath97 said:

Why not? What is your full budget? 1440P monitors are not that expensive anymore.

why not ? because no. Your interest is flattering but im too bored to explain my situation. Its not just a budget thing.

[Castdeath97]

35 minutes ago, dams3 said:

why not ? because no. Your interest is flattering but im too bored to explain my situation. Its not just a budget thing.

Ohh well if you insist. Regardless consider the i5 6500 with the 1060 for now, unless you plan on streaming and editing the benefit with a i7 for the 1060 with gaming tasks is minimal to mediocre with current games and not worth the extra 100-150 dollars. 

 

Of course if you are going to get a top tier card later on as a upgrade soon and if games in the future actually make use of 8 threads then maybe. 

[Crusader93]

On 31.7.2016 at 4:51 PM, Technous285 said:

Just gaming? Go with the i5-6500/K then, it'll be cheaper and if you get the K and need to overclock you can easily make up for the clock differences between the 6500/K & 6700/K.

Depends on what graphics card he will use. If he is going for a 1080, an i5 6600K will be a poor choice compared to a i7 6700K in terms of bottlenecking.

[dams3]

41 minutes ago, Castdeath97 said:

Ohh well if you insist. Regardless consider the i5 6500 with the 1060 for now, unless you plan on streaming and editing the benefit with a i7 for the 1060 with gaming tasks is minimal to mediocre with current games and not worth the extra 100-150 dollars. 

 

Of course if you are going to get a top tier card later on as a upgrade soon and if games in the future actually make use of 8 threads then maybe. 

yes its pretty certain that ill upgrade my graphics to something more serious at some point

[pcshme33]

On Sunday, July 31, 2016 at 10:13 AM, dams3 said:

Well im not really fond of spending like another 100 bucks on something i will probably not need

You don't need a i7 period.  Bam,  knocks off 100$ just like that.  There is no difference between a i5 and i7 for gaming.  None at all. 

[Castdeath97]

1 hour ago, EnemySp0tt3d said:

You don't need a i7 period.  Bam,  knocks off 100$ just like that.  There is no difference between a i5 and i7 for gaming.  None at all. 

There definitely is a difference but, you do have a point. It's not that worth the 100 extra dollars even with top end cards the gain isn't as great as it should right now.

[TheRandomness]

1 hour ago, EnemySp0tt3d said:

You don't need a i7 period.  Bam,  knocks off 100$ just like that.  There is no difference between a i5 and i7 for gaming.  None at all. 

There is a difference. Games nowadays are starting to use 4 or more threads, and the hyper threading on the i7 is shown to help. 

[dams3]

4 hours ago, EnemySp0tt3d said:

You don't need a i7 period.  Bam,  knocks off 100$ just like that.  There is no difference between a i5 and i7 for gaming.  None at all. 

And that's just not true

[TheSuspect]

The K is only if you want to overclock or if budget isn't an issue. (or bragging rights)