83500,9590 or i5 6500

[EpicCookie]

Hi,i want to upgrade my CPU and motherboard, I did a lot of research and i found Some Good used CPUs

 

An 8350 - 100Euros

A 9590 - 180 Euros

An i5 6500- 140 euros

 

Im gonna be doing Gaming and Video Editing

I dont really give a shit about Single Core Performance

I have a 750 watt PSU and im a little worried about the 250 watts of the 9590

GPU: GTX 760

[JJVGaming]

i5, 8350 is good but old and the 9590 is pretty much an oc 8350 out of the box. Plus, you can can upgrade from skylake to kabylake too.

[Nena Trinity]

8350 requires a 6+2 VRM board minimum and the FX-9590 needs a ASUS Sabertooth motherboard minimum, the i5 how ever can use any LGA1151 board even the cheapest. (Avoid the FX-9590 any of the two other are better and both the other two does not need extra cooling, btw new or old FX-8350 box? That tells you if you get a loud or silent CPU cooler...)

[refinedskillz]

eye fiiiiive

[DXMember]

8350 is better at video rendering if you don't use Intel QuickSync

[Dresta]

4 minutes ago, DXMember said:

8350 is better at video rendering if you don't use Intel QuickSync

No it is not better at video rendering 

 

[vorticalbox]

Your only option is the i5, the 8350 has no upgrade path, other than more over clocked chips. You can have the i5 now and upgrade to an i7 later on. I have an 8350 and it is a great CPU have had zero problems with gaming but I got mine 2 years a go were it was much more viable.

[EpicCookie]

5 minutes ago, Nena360 said:

8350 requires a 6+2 VRM board minimum and the FX-9590 needs a ASUS Sabertooth motherboard minimum, the i5 how ever can use any LGA1151 board even the cheapest. (Avoid the FX-9590 any of the two other are better and both the other two does not need extra cooling, btw new or old FX-8350 box? That tells you if you get a loud or silent CPU cooler...)

Thats why i want to avoid the i5,I want a good motherboard and money left for a cooler those 40 euros can get me a hyper 212 evo.

My budget is 250 euros max. Can you give me any reccomendations for an 8350 motherboard?
 

[EpicCookie]

5 minutes ago, DXMember said:

8350 is better at video rendering if you don't use Intel QuickSync

OK, Thanks

[Aereldor]

The i5 by a long shot. I wouldn't recommend buying any of AMD's CPUs until their new Zen architecture hits later this year.

[EpicCookie]

10 minutes ago, JJVGaming said:

i5, 8350 is good but old and the 9590 is pretty much an oc 8350 out of the box. Plus, you can can upgrade from skylake to kabylake too.

I Dont care if 8350 is old If its the better multi core preformer im gonna buy it

[manikyath]

the 8350 really shines when you clock the living hell out of it, the issue is that you pretty much *need* a motherboard with VRMs to power the world, and a big bulky cooler. (not to mention that AM3+ is a hideously outdated platform at this point)

 

at that point you may as well get an i7 with something like 212 evo and get better results:

[EpicCookie]

2 minutes ago, vorticalbox said:

Your only option is the i5, the 8350 has no upgrade path, other than more over clocked chips. You can have the i5 now and upgrade to an i7 later on. I have an 8350 and it is a great CPU have had zero problems with gaming but I got mine 2 years a go were it was much more viable.

If i get the i5 i wont have money for an i7 for the rest 3-5 years and those i7s will be old then

[DXMember]

3 minutes ago, Dresta said:

No it is not better at video rendering 

 

ARE YOU FOR FUCKING REAL????

[Dabombinable]

1 minute ago, EpicCookie said:

I Dont care if 8350 is old If its the better multi core preformer im gonna buy it

This might interest you, the i5 6500 coming close to i7...which at stock beat an FX 9590/FX 8350 @ 5GHz.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/71760-intel-skylake-i5-6500-i5-6400-i3-6100-review-6.html

[EpicCookie]

1 minute ago, manikyath said:

the 8350 really shines when you clock the living hell out of it, the issue is that you pretty much *need* a motherboard with VRMs to power the world, and a big bulky cooler. (not to mention that AM3+ is a hideously outdated platform at this point)

 

at that point you may as well get an i7 with something like 212 evo and get better results:

If i get ANY of those i will not upgrade for 3-5 yearsso i cant get an i7

[Dresta]

Just now, DXMember said:

ARE YOU FOR FUCKING REAL????

As in the video the i5 6500 is better in video editing,i don't know where you got that the FX 8350 is better at video editing

[manikyath]

Just now, EpicCookie said:

If i get ANY of those i will not upgrade for 3-5 yearsso i cant get an i7

i'll put it like this: you can put an i7 in a $100 mobo, put a $30 cooler to it, and be set for the next 5 years.

 

if you get an FX8350 (dont get an fx9590, please dont) you'll need a $200 motherboard to be comfortable VRM-wise, and probably a $100-150 cooling solution to keep thermals happy.

[vorticalbox]

4 minutes ago, Dresta said:

As in the video the i5 6500 is better in video editing,i don't know where you got that the FX 8350 is better at video editing

Editing is not the same as Rendering. Editing is cutting, adding effects where as rending is putting it all together. As the i5 has stronger cores it makes sense that the editing part would be better as for rendering the 8350 would beat it

 

2 minutes ago, manikyath said:

i'll put it like this: you can put an i7 in a $100 mobo, put a $30 cooler to it, and be set for the next 5 years.

 

if you get an FX8350 (dont get an fx9590, please dont) you'll need a $200 motherboard to be comfortable VRM-wise, and probably a $100-150 cooling solution to keep thermals happy.

I have my 8350 in a gigabyte ud3 and it does just fine for power. I can get 4.5 @ 1.4 v but as you pointed out after 1.4 V the vrams REALLY don't like it and I get massive CPU drops to 1.4 GHz. If i ramp my fans all the way up i can do 5Ghz @ 1.5

 

[EpicCookie]

5 minutes ago, DXMember said:

ARE YOU FOR FUCKING REAL????

The i5 uses DDR4 Ram And the 8350 uses DDR3 In This test which benfits a lot in video rendering

[manikyath]

3 minutes ago, vorticalbox said:

Editing is not the same as Rendering. Editing is cutting, adding effects where as rending is putting it all together. As the i5 has stronger cores it makes sense that the editing part would be better as for rendering the 8350 would beat it

 

I have my 8350 in a gigabyte ud3 and it does just fine for power. I can get 4.5 @ 1.4 v but as you pointed out after 1.4 V the vrams REALLY don't like it and I get massive CPU drops to 1.4 GHz. If i ramp my fans all the way up i can do 5Ghz @ 1.5

 

well, look at your vrms, that's what is kind of the "accepted minimum" for VRMs for an FX 8-core, and that mobo is the cheapest one by a long shot i saw with those vrms.

 

still tho, what cooler did you strap to it as well? my €50 be quiet dark rock adv. c1 can keep my i7 (stock) within tjmax while running fanless.

[Dresta]

13 minutes ago, vorticalbox said:

Editing is not the same as Rendering. Editing is cutting, adding effects where as rending is putting it all together. As the i5 has stronger cores it makes sense that the editing part would be better as for rendering the 8350 would beat it

As in the video i provided the i5 6500 is better at Video Rendering still

[vorticalbox]

9 minutes ago, manikyath said:

well, look at your vrms, that's what is kind of the "accepted minimum" for VRMs for an FX 8-core, and that mobo is the cheapest one by a long shot i saw with those vrms.

 

still tho, what cooler did you strap to it as well? my €50 be quiet dark rock adv. c1 can keep my i7 (stock) within tjmax while running fanless.

h100i lol I knew it was hot so I got it. The heat sink is rather bulky but isn't cut into fins to give more surface area. I'm ok with have 4.5 OC. I actually run it at stock most of the time then use amd overdrive if I need to extra power.

[manikyath]

1 minute ago, vorticalbox said:

h100i lol I knew it was hot so I got it. The heat sink is rather bulky but isn't cut into fins to give more surface area. I'm ok with have 4.5 OC. I actually run it at stock most of the time then use amd overdrive if I need to extra power.

that's the deal, a h100i is a decent chunk more pricy than what you need for a modern intel processor, to the point you're almost just better off budget wise to get the intel part.

[vorticalbox]

5 minutes ago, manikyath said:

that's the deal, a h100i is a decent chunk more pricy than what you need for a modern intel processor, to the point you're almost just better off budget wise to get the intel part.

I when I got it 2 years a go I could have gone for the i5 but my college course had a 3d rendering course and I run VM's for different things so at the time the 8350 made more sense. The h100i was already on the buy list anyway so that wasn't a consideration. Along with the price othe cooler have to also add in power usage over time. The i5 will cost much less to run than the 8350. 

 

Still i'm happy with my CPU untill the next upgrade which unless zen is magic then will probably be intel.